[Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

[Jarod Schoen]

Hi all,
I've been practicing getting Puppet Server (Master) up and running on a 
whole variety of distros. CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian... and the more 
instructions I read, the more its impossible to understand how Puppet works 
and should be installed.

I swear, every single time I try to implement this, I try new instructions 
and get various results. Last year, I could get it up and running with 1 
Windows agent and pushed VLC. Can't get back to that level of functionality 
anymore...

What is the #1 best distro for puppet server and
do you know any great instructions for installing the latest Puppet 
Server/Agents v7

CentOS (or best distro) - with all Windows agents. No Linux agents required 
right now. I'm just trying to automate system installs on Windows.


Thank you,
Jarod

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Re: [Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

[Justin Stoller]

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 9:40 AM Jarod Schoen 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> I've been practicing getting Puppet Server (Master) up and running on a
> whole variety of distros. CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian... and the more
> instructions I read, the more its impossible to understand how Puppet works
> and should be installed.
>
> I swear, every single time I try to implement this, I try new instructions
> and get various results. Last year, I could get it up and running with 1
> Windows agent and pushed VLC. Can't get back to that level of functionality
> anymore...
>

That's terrible, I hope if our docs (or software) are part of the problem
you let us know!

>
> What is the #1 best distro for puppet server and
> do you know any great instructions for installing the latest Puppet
> Server/Agents v7
>
> I typically install it on Redhat 7 because that's what the majority of
customers use, however I think Redhat/CentOS 8, and our builds from
http://yum.puppet.com/puppet-release-el-8.noarch.rpm will treat you better.

HTH,
Justin

CentOS (or best distro) - with all Windows agents. No Linux agents required
> right now. I'm just trying to automate system installs on Windows.
>
>
> Thank you,
> Jarod
>
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Re: [Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

[Jarod Schoen]

Thank you very much, I will give CentOS 8 (currently on 7.9) and try that 
rpm.

I went CentOS 7.9 because some body of people is saying that version 8 is 
beleaguered already... I dont know who to believe.



On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 14:21:46 UTC-4 Justin Stoller wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 9:40 AM Jarod Schoen  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I've been practicing getting Puppet Server (Master) up and running on a 
>> whole variety of distros. CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian... and the more 
>> instructions I read, the more its impossible to understand how Puppet works 
>> and should be installed.
>>
>> I swear, every single time I try to implement this, I try new 
>> instructions and get various results. Last year, I could get it up and 
>> running with 1 Windows agent and pushed VLC. Can't get back to that level 
>> of functionality anymore...
>>
>
> That's terrible, I hope if our docs (or software) are part of the problem 
> you let us know!
>
>>
>> What is the #1 best distro for puppet server and
>> do you know any great instructions for installing the latest Puppet 
>> Server/Agents v7
>>
>> I typically install it on Redhat 7 because that's what the majority of 
> customers use, however I think Redhat/CentOS 8, and our builds from 
> http://yum.puppet.com/puppet-release-el-8.noarch.rpm will treat you 
> better.
>
> HTH,
> Justin
>
> CentOS (or best distro) - with all Windows agents. No Linux agents 
>> required right now. I'm just trying to automate system installs on Windows.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Jarod
>>
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Re: [Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

['Dirk Heinrichs' via Puppet Users]

Am Dienstag, den 15.06.2021, 09:40 -0700 schrieb Jarod Schoen:

> I've been practicing getting Puppet Server (Master) up and running on
> a whole variety of distros. CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian... and the more
> instructions I read, the more its impossible to understand how Puppet
> works and should be installed.

Well, it works the same regardless of how it's installed. Anyway,
installation (from packages) on Linux depends on which distribution
family (RedHat or Debian) you're using. RedHat family distributions
(RedHat, CentOS) use the RedHat Package Manager (rpm) and its wrappers
yum and/or dnf for package management, while Debian family
distributions (Debian, Ubuntu) use the Debian package manager (dpkg,
with apt wrapped around it). The documentation contains detailed
instructions about how to install Puppet packages on either family. It
all boils down to

   1. Download and install a matching release package which will setup
the Puppetlabs package repository for your distribution/version and
desired Puppet version
   2. Use the native package manager to install Puppet server and/or
agent packages

> What is the #1 best distro for puppet server and

For me, that's definitively Debian ;-)

> do you know any great instructions for installing the latest Puppet
> Server/Agents v7

Yes, the Puppet documentation: 
https://puppet.com/docs/puppet/7/install_and_configure.html

HTH...

Dirk
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Re: [Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

[Jarod Schoen]

Thank you. I'll try to be more thorough in my reading. Everyone else seems 
to be ok during setup.

On Wednesday, 16 June 2021 at 09:29:12 UTC-4 dhei...@opentext.com wrote:

> Am Dienstag, den 15.06.2021, 09:40 -0700 schrieb Jarod Schoen:
>
> I've been practicing getting Puppet Server (Master) up and running on a 
> whole variety of distros. CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian... and the more 
> instructions I read, the more its impossible to understand how Puppet works 
> and should be installed.
>
>
> Well, it works the same regardless of how it's installed. Anyway, 
> installation (from packages) on Linux depends on which distribution family 
> (RedHat or Debian) you're using. RedHat family distributions (RedHat, 
> CentOS) use the RedHat Package Manager (rpm) and its wrappers yum and/or 
> dnf for package management, while Debian family distributions (Debian, 
> Ubuntu) use the Debian package manager (dpkg, with apt wrapped around it). 
> The documentation contains detailed instructions about how to install 
> Puppet packages on either family. It all boils down to
>
>
>1. Download and install a matching release package which will setup 
>the Puppetlabs package repository for your distribution/version and 
> desired 
>Puppet version
>2. Use the native package manager to install Puppet server and/or 
>agent packages
>
>
> What is the #1 best distro for puppet server and
>
>
> For me, that's definitively Debian [image: ;-)]
>
> do you know any great instructions for installing the latest Puppet 
> Server/Agents v7
>
>
> Yes, the Puppet documentation: 
> https://puppet.com/docs/puppet/7/install_and_configure.html
>
> HTH...
>
> Dirk
>
> -- 
>
> *Dirk Heinrichs*
> Senior Systems Engineer, Delivery Pipeline
> OpenText ™ Discovery | Recommind
> *Phone*: +49 2226 15966 18 <+49%202226%201596618>
> *Email*: dhei...@opentext.com
> *Website*: www.recommind.de
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Re: [Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

[Jochen Haeberle]

I am going well with Debian, but that’s what I usually use.

I guess I had a hard time running Puppet against Windows only… although it is 
possible, I think the worlds are so apart that there are some rough edges… you 
probably are more easy when you know your Puppet from unix and then start to 
conquer Windows.

Next thing, I would start out with Puppet serverless and add Puppet Master 
later…

I would recommend some titles from the PACKT library, they helped me very much. 

Best,
Jochen

> Am 16.06.2021 um 16:30 schrieb Jarod Schoen :
> 
> Thank you. I'll try to be more thorough in my reading. Everyone else seems to 
> be ok during setup.
> 
> On Wednesday, 16 June 2021 at 09:29:12 UTC-4 dhei...@opentext.com 
>  wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 15.06.2021, 09:40 -0700 schrieb Jarod Schoen:
> 
>> I've been practicing getting Puppet Server (Master) up and running on a 
>> whole variety of distros. CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian... and the more 
>> instructions I read, the more its impossible to understand how Puppet works 
>> and should be installed.
> 
> Well, it works the same regardless of how it's installed. Anyway, 
> installation (from packages) on Linux depends on which distribution family 
> (RedHat or Debian) you're using. RedHat family distributions (RedHat, CentOS) 
> use the RedHat Package Manager (rpm) and its wrappers yum and/or dnf for 
> package management, while Debian family distributions (Debian, Ubuntu) use 
> the Debian package manager (dpkg, with apt wrapped around it). The 
> documentation contains detailed instructions about how to install Puppet 
> packages on either family. It all boils down to
> 
> Download and install a matching release package which will setup the 
> Puppetlabs package repository for your distribution/version and desired 
> Puppet version
> Use the native package manager to install Puppet server and/or agent packages
> 
>> What is the #1 best distro for puppet server and
> 
> For me, that's definitively Debian 
> 
>> do you know any great instructions for installing the latest Puppet 
>> Server/Agents v7
> 
> Yes, the Puppet documentation: 
> https://puppet.com/docs/puppet/7/install_and_configure.html 
> 
> 
> HTH...
> 
> Dirk
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> Senior Systems Engineer, Delivery Pipeline
> OpenText ™ Discovery | Recommind
> Phone: +49 2226 15966 18 
> Email: dhei...@opentext.com 
> 
> Website:  <>www.recommind.de 
> Recommind GmbH, Von-Liebig-Straße 1, 53359 Rheinbach
> Vertretungsberechtigte Geschäftsführer Gordon Davies, Madhu Ranganathan, 
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Re: [Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

[Jarod Schoen]

Thank you, I saw those PACKT books and had bad experiences with their 
programming books. I'll give their puppet one a try!

On Wednesday, 16 June 2021 at 10:35:50 UTC-4 jochen@gmail.com wrote:

> I am going well with Debian, but that’s what I usually use.
>
> I guess I had a hard time running Puppet against Windows only… although it 
> is possible, I think the worlds are so apart that there are some rough 
> edges… you probably are more easy when you know your Puppet from unix and 
> then start to conquer Windows.
>
> Next thing, I would start out with Puppet serverless and add Puppet Master 
> later…
>
> I would recommend some titles from the PACKT library, they helped me very 
> much. 
>
> Best,
> Jochen
>
> Am 16.06.2021 um 16:30 schrieb Jarod Schoen :
>
> Thank you. I'll try to be more thorough in my reading. Everyone else seems 
> to be ok during setup.
>
> On Wednesday, 16 June 2021 at 09:29:12 UTC-4 dhei...@opentext.com wrote:
>
>> Am Dienstag, den 15.06.2021, 09:40 -0700 schrieb Jarod Schoen:
>>
>> I've been practicing getting Puppet Server (Master) up and running on a 
>> whole variety of distros. CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian... and the more 
>> instructions I read, the more its impossible to understand how Puppet works 
>> and should be installed.
>>
>>
>> Well, it works the same regardless of how it's installed. Anyway, 
>> installation (from packages) on Linux depends on which distribution family 
>> (RedHat or Debian) you're using. RedHat family distributions (RedHat, 
>> CentOS) use the RedHat Package Manager (rpm) and its wrappers yum and/or 
>> dnf for package management, while Debian family distributions (Debian, 
>> Ubuntu) use the Debian package manager (dpkg, with apt wrapped around it). 
>> The documentation contains detailed instructions about how to install 
>> Puppet packages on either family. It all boils down to
>>
>>
>>1. Download and install a matching release package which will setup 
>>the Puppetlabs package repository for your distribution/version and 
>> desired 
>>Puppet version
>>2. Use the native package manager to install Puppet server and/or 
>>agent packages
>>
>>
>> What is the #1 best distro for puppet server and
>>
>>
>> For me, that's definitively Debian [image: ;-)]
>>
>> do you know any great instructions for installing the latest Puppet 
>> Server/Agents v7
>>
>>
>> Yes, the Puppet documentation: 
>> https://puppet.com/docs/puppet/7/install_and_configure.html
>>
>> HTH...
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> *Dirk Heinrichs*
>> Senior Systems Engineer, Delivery Pipeline
>> OpenText ™ Discovery | Recommind
>> *Phone*: +49 2226 15966 18 <+49%202226%201596618>
>> *Email*: dhei...@opentext.com
>> *Website*: www.recommind.de
>> Recommind GmbH, Von-Liebig-Straße 1, 53359 Rheinbach
>> Vertretungsberechtigte Geschäftsführer Gordon Davies, Madhu Ranganathan, 
>> Christian Waida, Registergericht Amtsgericht Bonn, Registernummer HRB 10646
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Re: [Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

[Jarod Schoen]

Important note I forgot:
I'm definitely not talking about puppet.com documentation. Its very 
detailed and has helped me get out of jams along the way.
But there are like 1000 blogs and I got stuck in the ... 
reasonable-facsimile-of-real-instructions negative feedback loop.


On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 14:21:46 UTC-4 Justin Stoller wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 9:40 AM Jarod Schoen  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I've been practicing getting Puppet Server (Master) up and running on a 
>> whole variety of distros. CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian... and the more 
>> instructions I read, the more its impossible to understand how Puppet works 
>> and should be installed.
>>
>> I swear, every single time I try to implement this, I try new 
>> instructions and get various results. Last year, I could get it up and 
>> running with 1 Windows agent and pushed VLC. Can't get back to that level 
>> of functionality anymore...
>>
>
> That's terrible, I hope if our docs (or software) are part of the problem 
> you let us know!
>
>>
>> What is the #1 best distro for puppet server and
>> do you know any great instructions for installing the latest Puppet 
>> Server/Agents v7
>>
>> I typically install it on Redhat 7 because that's what the majority of 
> customers use, however I think Redhat/CentOS 8, and our builds from 
> http://yum.puppet.com/puppet-release-el-8.noarch.rpm will treat you 
> better.
>
> HTH,
> Justin
>
> CentOS (or best distro) - with all Windows agents. No Linux agents 
>> required right now. I'm just trying to automate system installs on Windows.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Jarod
>>
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Re: [Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

[Ian Mortimer]

On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 05:44 -0700, Jarod Schoen wrote:

> I went CentOS 7.9 because some body of people is saying that version
> 8 is beleaguered already... I dont know who to believe.

You probably don't want to install CentOS 8 on any production server. 
It will be replaced at the end of the year by CentOS Stream:

   https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/

If you want to stay RedHat based, Oracle Linux would be the safest
option currently.


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Re: [Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

[Peter Meier]

On 17.06.21 02:58, Ian Mortimer wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 05:44 -0700, Jarod Schoen wrote:
> 
>> I went CentOS 7.9 because some body of people is saying that version
>> 8 is beleaguered already... I dont know who to believe.
> 
> You probably don't want to install CentOS 8 on any production server. 
> It will be replaced at the end of the year by CentOS Stream:
> 
>https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/
> 
> If you want to stay RedHat based, Oracle Linux would be the safest
> option currently.

Or you just don't believe the FUD spread all over the internet and you
go with CentOS Stream 8 already now, which is the same as CentOS Linux
just a bit earlier available (even earlier than Oracle, Rocky, ...).

I happily converted all my CentOS Linux 8 Systems (close to 100) to
CentOS Stream 8 last year and it all works fine. There is zero difference.

I am also looking forward to start integrating CentOS Stream 9 in the
next few months, which means I'll be able to start planning and
integrating the next version way before Oracle even gets to rebuild it.

~pete

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Re: [Puppet Users] Newbie wants to know your favourite distro for Puppet Server

[Jarod Schoen]

Thanks for the recommendation!

On Wednesday, 16 June 2021 at 20:58:16 UTC-4 ianm wrote:

> On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 05:44 -0700, Jarod Schoen wrote:
>
> > I went CentOS 7.9 because some body of people is saying that version
> > 8 is beleaguered already... I dont know who to believe.
>
> You probably don't want to install CentOS 8 on any production server. 
> It will be replaced at the end of the year by CentOS Stream:
>
> https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/
>
> If you want to stay RedHat based, Oracle Linux would be the safest
> option currently.
>
>
> -- 
> Ian
>

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