Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-16 Thread Michael Stahnke
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dan White y...@comcast.net wrote:
 Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby 1.8.7 
 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system.  The environment I am working still has RHEL 3 
 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting for transition 
 to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it)

 One more thing: When I say reliable, it has to be able to convince a 
 non-technical PHB type.

 Suggestions ?

Other than the suggestions already listed in this thread, you might
just want to not move to Telly.  Obviously you're running things that
MUCH older than what telly is setup to do.

Another option would be to run Puppet Enterprise (which includes Ruby
1.8.7), but doesn't support RHEL 3 or 4.  I'd probably talk to my boss
about what end-of-life really means ;)




 On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote:

 Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of
 the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly.  Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are
 considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including
 Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X.  Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the 
 agent
 only.

 The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and 
 we
 are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production
 support in the forthcoming release.

 Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially
 supported. Ruby implementations other than the MRI series are not 
 officially
 supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI)
 Ruby systems.

 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and
 Ubuntu Precise Pangolin.

 Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you'd like to see some of 
 the
 changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet's master branch.

 If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here.

 Mike Stahnke
 Community Manager

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Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-16 Thread Todd Zullinger

Gary Larizza wrote:
Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created?  They 
work fairly well -- http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/


They're also not updated for recent security vulnerabilities, which 
should be a concern for anyone deploying them in production.


Basically, this means that Telly won't support el5 as a master, right?

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Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-16 Thread Jeff McCune
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com wrote:
 Gary Larizza wrote:

 Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created?  They
 work fairly well -- http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/


 They're also not updated for recent security vulnerabilities, which should
 be a concern for anyone deploying them in production.

 Basically, this means that Telly won't support el5 as a master, right?

This is my understanding, yes.  We'll support EL5 as a master with
Puppet Enterprise, and as an agent with the vendor provided Ruby, but
the cost of supporting Ruby 1.8.5 running a Puppet Master is quite
high.

I know this isn't ideal, but Ruby 1.8.5 is extremely long in the tooth.

-Jeff

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Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-16 Thread Jo Rhett
I'd like to recommend the frameos version instead.  If you're going to do it 
from source, the frameos ruby spec file is much simpler, with much smaller diff 
files against the distro, and doesn't compile in a bunch of japanese and Tk 
stuff.  I've been updating the spec file to track the latest ruby patchlevel 
with no other changes, and that works fine for me.

https://github.com/frameos/ruby-rpm

On Apr 14, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Gary Larizza wrote:
 Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created?  They work 
 fairly well -- http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/
 
 
 On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dan White y...@comcast.net wrote:
 Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby 1.8.7 
 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system.  The environment I am working still has RHEL 3 
 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting for transition 
 to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it)
 
 One more thing: When I say reliable, it has to be able to convince a 
 non-technical PHB type.
 
 Suggestions ?
 
 On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote:
 
  Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of
  the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly.  Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are
  considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including
  Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X.  Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the 
  agent
  only.
 
  The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and 
  we
  are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production
  support in the forthcoming release.
 
  Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially
  supported. Ruby implementations other than the MRI series are not 
  officially
  supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI)
  Ruby systems.
 
  1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and
  Ubuntu Precise Pangolin.
 
  Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you'd like to see some of 
  the
  changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet's master branch.
 
  If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here.
 
  Mike Stahnke
  Community Manager
 
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Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-15 Thread Dan White
I would have no problem trying either one of these, but the PHB-objections I 
face are that these do not come from Red Hat or a reliable source.  They 
might trust them if they came from PuppetLabs' repository, but even that is no 
guarantee.  They are inconsistently paranoid about what they will permit into 
their production environment.  They had kittens when I initially pulled Cobbler 
and Puppet from EPEL, while they build replacements for some packages from 
source and install from the source build rather than with an RPM.

Please tell me if I understand the versioning requirements:
   I need ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 on the machine acting as Puppet Master.
   The clients/agents can use ruby 1.8.5 for now.

Is that accurate ?

On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:03 AM, Craig White wrote:
 enterprise ruby (1.8.7 only)
 
 http://www.rubyenterpriseedition.com/download.html
 
 Craig

On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Gary Larizza wrote:
 Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created?  They work 
 fairly well -- http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/
 
 

 On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dan White y...@comcast.net wrote:
 Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby 1.8.7 
 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system.  The environment I am working still has RHEL 3 
 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting for transition 
 to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it)
 
 One more thing: When I say reliable, it has to be able to convince a 
 non-technical PHB type.
 
 Suggestions ?
 
 On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote:
 
  Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of
  the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly.  Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are
  considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including
  Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X.  Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the 
  agent
  only.
 
  The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and 
  we
  are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production
  support in the forthcoming release.
 
  Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially
  supported. Ruby implementations other than the MRI series are not 
  officially
  supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI)
  Ruby systems.
 
  1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and
  Ubuntu Precise Pangolin.
 
  Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you'd like to see some of 
  the
  changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet's master branch.
 
  If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here.
 
  Mike Stahnke
  Community Manager
 
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Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-15 Thread Ashley Penney
You might have the best luck going the route of Well, my puppetmaster
needs RHEL6 and that's the only way it's supported because then you get
1.8.7 from an official source.  I completely sympathise with your
situation, having been in it before.

Your understanding is right to the best of my knowledge, I wouldn't try and
run the master on 1.8.5, but clients should work with the stock RHEL5 Ruby.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Dan White y...@comcast.net wrote:

 I would have no problem trying either one of these, but the PHB-objections
 I face are that these do not come from Red Hat or a reliable source.
  They might trust them if they came from PuppetLabs' repository, but even
 that is no guarantee.  They are inconsistently paranoid about what they
 will permit into their production environment.  They had kittens when I
 initially pulled Cobbler and Puppet from EPEL, while they build
 replacements for some packages from source and install from the source
 build rather than with an RPM.

 Please tell me if I understand the versioning requirements:
I need ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 on the machine acting as Puppet Master.
The clients/agents can use ruby 1.8.5 for now.

 Is that accurate ?

 On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:03 AM, Craig White wrote:

 enterprise ruby (1.8.7 only)

 http://www.rubyenterpriseedition.com/download.html

 Craig


 On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Gary Larizza wrote:

 Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created?  They
 work fairly well -- http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/



 On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dan White y...@comcast.net wrote:

 Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby
 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system.  The environment I am working still
 has RHEL 3 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting
 for transition to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it)

 One more thing: When I say reliable, it has to be able to convince a
 non-technical PHB type.

 Suggestions ?

 On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote:

  Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be
 part of
  the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly.  Ruby 1.8.7 and
 1.9.3 are
  considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms
 including
  Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X.  Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on
 the agent
  only.
 
  The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series,
 and we
  are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full
 production
  support in the forthcoming release.
 
  Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially
  supported. Ruby implementations other than the MRI series are not
 officially
  supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI)
  Ruby systems.
 
  1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and
  Ubuntu Precise Pangolin.
 
  Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you'd like to see some
 of the
  changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet's master
 branch.
 
  If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here.
 
  Mike Stahnke
  Community Manager

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Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-15 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 08:29, Dan White y...@comcast.net wrote:
 I would have no problem trying either one of these, but the PHB-objections I
 face are that these do not come from Red Hat or a reliable source.  They
 might trust them if they came from PuppetLabs' repository, but even that is
 no guarantee.  They are inconsistently paranoid about what they will permit
 into their production environment.  They had kittens when I initially pulled
 Cobbler and Puppet from EPEL, while they build replacements for some
 packages from source and install from the source build rather than with an
 RPM.

 Please tell me if I understand the versioning requirements:
    I need ruby 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 on the machine acting as Puppet Master.
    The clients/agents can use ruby 1.8.5 for now.

That is spot-on.

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Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-14 Thread Dan White
Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby 1.8.7 
or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system.  The environment I am working still has RHEL 3 
and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting for transition 
to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it)

One more thing: When I say reliable, it has to be able to convince a 
non-technical PHB type. 

Suggestions ?

On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote:

 Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of
 the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly.  Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are
 considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including
 Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X.  Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the agent
 only.
 
 The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and we
 are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production
 support in the forthcoming release.
 
 Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially
 supported. Ruby implementations other than the MRI series are not officially
 supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI)
 Ruby systems.
 
 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and
 Ubuntu Precise Pangolin.
 
 Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you'd like to see some of the
 changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet's master branch.
 
 If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here.
 
 Mike Stahnke
 Community Manager

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Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-14 Thread Craig White
enterprise ruby (1.8.7 only)

http://www.rubyenterpriseedition.com/download.html

Craig

On Apr 14, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Dan White wrote:

 Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby 1.8.7 
 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system.  The environment I am working still has RHEL 3 
 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting for transition 
 to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it)
 
 One more thing: When I say reliable, it has to be able to convince a 
 non-technical PHB type. 
 
 Suggestions ?
 
 On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote:
 
 Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of
 the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly.  Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are
 considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including
 Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X.  Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the 
 agent
 only.
 
 The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and 
 we
 are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production
 support in the forthcoming release.
 
 Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially
 supported. Ruby implementations other than the MRI series are not 
 officially
 supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI)
 Ruby systems.
 
 1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and
 Ubuntu Precise Pangolin.
 
 Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you'd like to see some of 
 the
 changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet's master branch.
 
 If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here.
 
 Mike Stahnke
 Community Manager
 
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Re: [Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-14 Thread Gary Larizza
Have you checked out the packages that Karanbir Singh has created?  They
work fairly well -- http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/


On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dan White y...@comcast.net wrote:

 Great to hear this, but I am now looking for a reliable way to get Ruby
 1.8.7 or 1.9.3 onto a RHEL-5 system.  The environment I am working still
 has RHEL 3 and 4 machines running, and I would not hold my breath waiting
 for transition to RHEL 6 (which does have ruby 1.8.7 in it)

 One more thing: When I say reliable, it has to be able to convince a
 non-technical PHB type.

 Suggestions ?

 On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote:

  Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be
 part of
  the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly.  Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3
 are
  considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms
 including
  Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X.  Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the
 agent
  only.
 
  The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series,
 and we
  are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full
 production
  support in the forthcoming release.
 
  Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially
  supported. Ruby implementations other than the MRI series are not
 officially
  supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI)
  Ruby systems.
 
  1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and
  Ubuntu Precise Pangolin.
 
  Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you'd like to see some
 of the
  changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet's master
 branch.
 
  If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here.
 
  Mike Stahnke
  Community Manager

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[Puppet Users] Supported Ruby Versions for Telly

2012-04-13 Thread Michael Stahnke
Puppet Labs is happy to announce full support for Ruby 1.9.3 will be part of
the next major release of Puppet, codenamed Telly.  Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 are
considered the primary supported Ruby versions, on all platforms including
Unix, Linux, Windows, and MacOS-X.  Ruby 1.8.5 is also supported, on the agent
only.

The Puppet 2.7 series featured initial support for the Ruby 1.9 series, and we
are happy to see that work completed and brought forward to full production
support in the forthcoming release.

Other Ruby versions including 1.8.6, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 are not officially
supported. Ruby implementations other than the MRI series are not officially
supported. We will accept patches that fix issues on other (non MRI)
Ruby systems.

1.9.3 was selected due to its inclusion in Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) and
Ubuntu Precise Pangolin.

Previews of Telly should be available in May. If you'd like to see some of the
changes happening today, you are also welcome to run Puppet's master branch.

If you have questions or concerns, feel free to respond here.

Mike Stahnke
Community Manager

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