Re: [pydotorg-www] (PEP )?redirector service
On 12 February 2013 02:18, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Right now to go to pep from an URL, you have to type exactly: > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008 Actually, I find typing "pep 8" into my browser's url bar gets me there with one intermediate click :-) [in much the same way I find IETF RFCs using "rfc 2822" in the url bar for example] > What is needed to create redirector service on peps.python.org that sends > all the following URLs to the page above? > > http://peps.python.org/8 > http://peps.python.org/pep8 > http://peps.python.org/pep-08 > http://peps.python.org/0008 > http://peps.python.org/peps-0008 It would be a bit of work to set up and maintain for only a small gain, I think. http://python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008 http://peps.python.org/peps-0008 is only a few characters difference, and the need to type in all the extra 0s only a small inconvenience I think. Richard ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] (PEP )?redirector service
On Monday 11 February 2013 20:30:10 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 11.02.2013 16:18, anatoly techtonik wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Right now to go to pep from an URL, you have to type exactly: > > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008 > > > > What is needed to create redirector service on peps.python.org that sends > > all the following URLs to the page above? > > http://peps.python.org/8 > > http://peps.python.org/pep8 > > http://peps.python.org/pep-08 > > http://peps.python.org/0008 > > http://peps.python.org/peps-0008 A host entry on some level of DNS server and some Apache directives? > I think it's better to link directly to the correct URL. If you want > shorter URLs, there are plenty URL shorteners out there. Many browsers > also allow customizing search, so you could add a PEP search to your > browser. There are always concerns about general link shorteners: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-September/587768.html Some go beyond the practicalities, too: http://www.selenic.com/pipermail/mercurial/2010-March/030444.html As for browsers and custom searches, there are also search engines that recognise things like PEPs: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html Amusingly, "!pep 8" sends me to the following, outdated location: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8/ I seem to remember some discussion about shortening python.org URLs, but I can't find anything about it at the moment. It might be useful to have a more memorable way of referring to PEPs, but allowing all sorts of alternatives is just inviting people to rely on potentially bizarre spellings that one day may no longer work. See above for an example. ;-) So, I think that peps.python.org is potentially a good idea and might be provided fairly easily with a rewrite rule, but too much magic is just not worth having: it's only when pages become completely undiscoverable that "guess the URL" becomes worthwhile, and then time would arguably be better spent improving navigation on the site concerned. Paul P.S. To take an example, typing dell.com/linux takes you to Dell's current "secret" page about Linux that you just know will be moved around, obscured in favour of "Dell recommends Microsoft Windows 8" "adverts", hidden, removed, lost, and so on, but that is only a useful shortcut because such sites make searching and navigation so awkward and awful otherwise. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] (PEP )?redirector service
On 11.02.2013 16:18, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Hi. > > Right now to go to pep from an URL, you have to type exactly: > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008 > > What is needed to create redirector service on peps.python.org that sends > all the following URLs to the page above? > > http://peps.python.org/8 > http://peps.python.org/pep8 > http://peps.python.org/pep-08 > http://peps.python.org/0008 > http://peps.python.org/peps-0008 I think it's better to link directly to the correct URL. If you want shorter URLs, there are plenty URL shorteners out there. Many browsers also allow customizing search, so you could add a PEP search to your browser. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Feb 11 2013) >>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ : Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
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[pydotorg-www] (PEP )?redirector service
Hi. Right now to go to pep from an URL, you have to type exactly: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008 What is needed to create redirector service on peps.python.org that sends all the following URLs to the page above? http://peps.python.org/8 http://peps.python.org/pep8 http://peps.python.org/pep-08 http://peps.python.org/0008 http://peps.python.org/peps-0008 -- anatoly t. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
