Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Spam

2013-03-18 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com:

 We've been seeing the same development on the Jython wiki. I guess
 they just realized that the Python wiki will likely get them
 even more Google juice:
 
 http://wiki.python.org/jython/RecentChanges
 
 Unfortunately, the wiki spam appears to from real humans,
 so textchas don't really help much.
 
 I've also checked IP ranges, but it doesn't help either.
 
 Of course, ideas as welcome :-)

Maybe block using some blacklists (we're using sbl.spamhaus.org) using
mod-spamhaus or similar modules.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Spam

2013-03-18 Thread M.-A. Lemburg


On 18.03.2013 19:03, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
 * M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com:
 
 We've been seeing the same development on the Jython wiki. I guess
 they just realized that the Python wiki will likely get them
 even more Google juice:

 http://wiki.python.org/jython/RecentChanges

 Unfortunately, the wiki spam appears to from real humans,
 so textchas don't really help much.

 I've also checked IP ranges, but it doesn't help either.

 Of course, ideas are welcome :-)
 
 Maybe block using some blacklists (we're using sbl.spamhaus.org) using
 mod-spamhaus or similar modules.

Do they have RBLs for wikis ? I thought they only do email blacklisting.

Their website appears to be down at the moment. I'll check again
later.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Spam

2013-03-18 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 18 March 2013 19:00:37 Radomir Dopieralski wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk wrote:
  Hello,
 
  We're getting a fair amount of spam on the Python Wiki. Can someone with
  administrative privileges check that the textcha feature is enabled and
  has been given a set of effective questions?

 You can see that it is enabled by visiting this link:
 http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=newaccount

 (make sure you are logged out)

 As for the questions, I'm open to suggestions.

I don't think How many words are in this question? is really setting the bar 
very high for spammers. Textcha questions are supposed to retain the context 
of the site on which they are placed so that bulk spamming cannot just scrape 
the question and serve it up to someone on some other site. This means that 
we should be asking Python-related questions, not simple Are you human? 
questions that ceased to be effective about ten years ago.

Paul
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Spam

2013-03-18 Thread Chris Withers

On 18/03/2013 18:00, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:


We've been seeing the same development on the Jython wiki. I guess
they just realized that the Python wiki will likely get them
even more Google juice:

http://wiki.python.org/jython/RecentChanges

Of course, ideas as welcome :-)


I've had success with Akismet:

http://akismet.com/

Not that hard to wire in for a blog, maybe the same could be done for 
wiki edits?


cheers,

Chris

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Spam

2013-03-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
Does MoinMoin support moderated edits by new users?

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On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello,

 We're getting a fair amount of spam on the Python Wiki. Can someone with
 administrative privileges check that the textcha feature is enabled and has
 been given a set of effective questions?

 Thanks,

 Paul
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[pydotorg-www] Migrating python.org to OSL

2013-03-18 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
As part of the PyCon sprints I would like to move python.org off dinsdale to a 
VM at OSL. Due to the build system being tied to SVN, I'll also migrate that 
service on the same VM. Do any SVN repos other than www/ need to remain 
available? This would require at least some period of not changing the website, 
probably a few hours, but I don't think that would be a problem. This is mostly 
a legacy move so I'm not going to clean it up much, we'll have a new site soon 
enough.


--Noah



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Re: [pydotorg-www] Migrating python.org to OSL

2013-03-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 18, 2013, at 03:17 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote:

As part of the PyCon sprints I would like to move python.org off dinsdale to
a VM at OSL. Due to the build system being tied to SVN, I'll also migrate
that service on the same VM. Do any SVN repos other than www/ need to remain
available? This would require at least some period of not changing the
website, probably a few hours, but I don't think that would be a
problem. This is mostly a legacy move so I'm not going to clean it up much,
we'll have a new site soon enough.

Not that I'm aware of.  As Benjamin noted, all RMs will need upload access and
it would be great to get a CNAME that won't change (anything will do) since
we'll need to update PEP 101 and probably the release script.

-Barry


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Re: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] Migrating python.org to OSL

2013-03-18 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
 As part of the PyCon sprints I would like to move python.org off dinsdale to 
 a VM at OSL. Due to the build system being tied to SVN, I'll also migrate 
 that service on the same VM. Do any SVN repos other than www/ need to remain 
 available? This would require at least some period of not changing the 
 website, probably a few hours, but I don't think that would be a problem. 
 This is mostly a legacy move so I'm not going to clean it up much, we'll have 
 a new site soon enough.

The repos with public interfaces:

http://svn.python.org/view/

will need to remain available to keep old links in e.g.
bug reports working.

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