Re: [pydotorg-www] wiki.python.org MoinMoinExtensions

2014-06-24 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:41 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
 More recently we also found that we had to make it a little
 harder to get edit access to the wiki due to excessive spam.

 People who want edit access have to email this list to get it.
 This has proven to be very effective so far...

Closing wiki from all edits at all should be the most effective.
Do you have an effectiveness formula?

eff = valid_edits/spam_edits (per month)?
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Re: [pydotorg-www] wiki.python.org MoinMoinExtensions

2014-06-24 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 24.06.2014 09:21, anatoly techtonik wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:41 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
 More recently we also found that we had to make it a little
 harder to get edit access to the wiki due to excessive spam.

 People who want edit access have to email this list to get it.
 This has proven to be very effective so far...
 
 Closing wiki from all edits at all should be the most effective.
 Do you have an effectiveness formula?
 
 eff = valid_edits/spam_edits (per month)?

Anatoly: you can derive this yourself from the recent changes
page at https://wiki.python.org/moin/RecentChanges?max_days=60

At the moment, we're at 100% effective edits. Before the change
we had something like 5-10% effective edits.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] wiki.python.org MoinMoinExtensions

2014-06-24 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:21 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
 On 24.06.2014 09:21, anatoly techtonik wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:41 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
 More recently we also found that we had to make it a little
 harder to get edit access to the wiki due to excessive spam.

 People who want edit access have to email this list to get it.
 This has proven to be very effective so far...

 Closing wiki from all edits at all should be the most effective.
 Do you have an effectiveness formula?

 eff = valid_edits/spam_edits (per month)?

 Anatoly: you can derive this yourself from the recent changes
 page at https://wiki.python.org/moin/RecentChanges?max_days=60

 At the moment, we're at 100% effective edits. Before the change
 we had something like 5-10% effective edits.

The formula I mentioned is not right to get 100%. You formula is:

eff2 = valid_edits/total_edits

But we need to get stats about active users to see that new rule
is not an impediment. We can either count active users before and
after:

active_users = registered_users - users_who_made_valid_edits

And compare that to the same stats from the previous period.
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[pydotorg-www] robots.txt make web archive inaccessible

2014-06-24 Thread anatoly techtonik
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://docs.python.org/release/2.2.3/whatsnew/node5.html

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