Re: [pydotorg-www] hey guys, let me volunteer ! yes ?

[Carl Karsten]

I suggest we let people say what they want.  We don't really have much
choice given the nature and point of this list.

I also suggest not replying to someone who isn't listening.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:10 AM, Anonymous 
wrote:

> or do you not want new people improving things ?
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[pydotorg-www] hey guys, let me volunteer ! yes ?

[Anonymous]

or do you not want new people improving things ?
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Steve Holden's arguments don't hold water.

[Fox]

Not many editors fall for such a cheap trick though.



most are being rejected of course.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] EditorsGroup <---- why was this guy not rejected like all the rest ?

[leaky wiki]

How come this guy was neither rejected nor to perform little
hoop-jumping tricks, like the admins do when it pleases them ?


Did he had to pay a bribe or what ?  ;-)





Chris Angelico:
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 1:52 AM, Raymond Hulha  wrote:
>> Hello pydotorg,
>>
>> I would like to be added to the EditorsGroup
>>
>> account name:
>>
>> RayH
> 
> Go for it!
> 
> ChrisA
> 


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[pydotorg-www] Steve Holden's arguments don't hold water.

[leaky wiki]

let me chime in here!

Holden comes across as a somewhat sanctimonious guy.

His "site content is maintained entirely by volunteers" line
may sound as if all was hunkey-dorey, yet it is the types like him, who
actually make sure that the NEW volunteers are being kept out!

Rejection rate skyrocketed this month !

The agressive stance against new users is of course part of the plan.
Not many editors fall for such a cheap trick though.




Steve Holden:
> AS a no-more-then-tangential reply I will point out in the defence of
> anyone who might be held responsible for not "plan[ning] to mitigate this
> dire situation," that the site content is maintained entirely by
> volunteers. It's possible that our current approach won't scale, but it's
> equally likely that there is much more relevant and recent content is
> available from other sources.
> 
> I can't remember anyone who asked for edit permissions being refused.
> Certainly, responding critically to an email is sufficient proof of
> sentience to merit permission to edit. Thank you for taking enough interest
> to want to help. If you feel like organising a crew of willing volunteers
> to help curate and maintain the content I'll be happy to introduce you to
> PSF people who might be willing to support such a venture (though I can
> make no commitment on the Foundation's behalf).


>> Our anti-robot protection is no secret. Before anyone can edit, he or
>>> she has to get explicit permission from an admin. :)
>>>
>>
>> to most bona fide users this is actually very much a  :-(

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Hello!

[leaky wiki]

great to find friends round here ! But Sweden was persecuting  Julian
Assange for far too long!


Stepheney Wills:
> Hello
> 
> I hope this letter finds you in the best of health and spirit. Forgive my 
> intrusion as I know that this is an unconventional way of reaching out to you.
> 
> My name is Stepheney Wills and I'm Swede. My reason for writing you is to 
> seek 
> your friendship! Just being adventurous and decided to use this letter as a 
> resource tool to get your attention. As a matter of fact, I've been wanting 
> to 
> try this a while now to chat. But I've been clueless on how to go about it.
> 
> Maybe you find it strange that I'm using something as cold as this means to 
> reach you. But this is the best I can do for now.In short: the purpose of 
> this 
> letter is just to ask you if you want to be my friend. And if you agree, just 
> say yes and we can take it on from there.
> 
> I look forward to hear hearing from you.
> 
> Steph
 Julain

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Does Your Business Need a Lifeline?

[leaky wiki]

whose doesn't. stop spamming rite now!

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Re: [pydotorg-www] let this be a warning to would-be wiki editors

[Martijn Pieters]

On 28 Jun 2017, at 08:28, M.-A. Lemburg  wrote:
> Hmm, this will not work well, since this list is the go to
> place when asking for wiki edit permission and for reporting
> other python.org  related issues.
> 
> Could this be lifted again ?

Done (see my other email)

> BTW: Who do we need to contact for changes to this lists
> configuration ? The -owner address ?

-owners goes to pkr...@gmail.com and a...@amk.ca. Presumably either are still 
active and have access. Let me know if others need to be added and/or a 
password reset is in order.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] let this be a warning to would-be wiki editors

[Martijn Pieters]

On 28 Jun 2017, at 08:19, Chris Angelico  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Martijn Pieters  wrote:
>> The list is also set to auto-hold messages from non-subscribers now.
> 
> Oh. That part is going to be annoying, as it'll delay legitimate
> messages until a mod gets to them. This is mainly a notification list,
> not a discussion list, so half the posts come from non-subscribed
> people.

I've switched that back to 'accept' again. I also added fire...@firemail.cc to 
the 'List of addresses which are banned from membership in this mailing list' 
to ensure there is no loophole there.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] let this be a warning to would-be wiki editors

[M.-A. Lemburg]

On 28.06.2017 09:17, Martijn Pieters wrote:
> On 27 Jun 2017, at 14:54, Barry Warsaw  wrote:
>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 03:31 PM, Fox wrote:
>>
>>> you wanna put up with this ?
>>
>> Not really.  Can we block this guy?
> 
> Looks like someone did:
> 
> List of non-member addresses whose postings will be immediately held for 
> moderation.
> fire...@firemail.cc
> 
> List of non-member addresses whose postings will be automatically rejected. 
> fire...@firemail.cc
> 
> List of non-member addresses whose postings will be automatically discarded. 
> fire...@firemail.cc

Thanks.

> The list is also set to auto-hold messages from non-subscribers now.

Hmm, this will not work well, since this list is the go to
place when asking for wiki edit permission and for reporting
other python.org related issues.

Could this be lifted again ?

BTW: Who do we need to contact for changes to this lists
configuration ? The -owner address ?

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Re: [pydotorg-www] let this be a warning to would-be wiki editors

[Chris Angelico]

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Martijn Pieters  wrote:
> The list is also set to auto-hold messages from non-subscribers now.

Oh. That part is going to be annoying, as it'll delay legitimate
messages until a mod gets to them. This is mainly a notification list,
not a discussion list, so half the posts come from non-subscribed
people.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] let this be a warning to would-be wiki editors

[Martijn Pieters]

On 27 Jun 2017, at 14:54, Barry Warsaw  wrote:
> On Jun 27, 2017, at 03:31 PM, Fox wrote:
> 
>> you wanna put up with this ?
> 
> Not really.  Can we block this guy?

Looks like someone did:

List of non-member addresses whose postings will be immediately held for 
moderation.
fire...@firemail.cc

List of non-member addresses whose postings will be automatically rejected. 
fire...@firemail.cc

List of non-member addresses whose postings will be automatically discarded. 
fire...@firemail.cc

The list is also set to auto-hold messages from non-subscribers now.

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