Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I'm sorry for the delay, I have added the europython theme to the
> themes available on the python wiki in user preferences. Once we are
> happy with how it looks and behaves, we can make it the default theme.

I think I would prefer it to replace the python theme rather sooner
than later - assuming you are willing to fix issues on short notice.

I don't think a theme called "europython" belongs into that Wiki
installation, and it wouldn't be good if people actively switched
to that setting only to see it removed later.

Regards,
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-03 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 03 March 2011 13:45:57 Radomir Dopieralski wrote:
>
>   I volunteered to
> update and maintain the python wiki, but somehow never found the time
> to sort out all the details. Now that I did, I hope to help with the
> wiki on regular basis, and also add any changes and
> details that might be needed for it.

This is great news! Thank you for installing the theme and making it work on 
the Python Wiki.

> Going back to your question, I consider the theme to be finished --
> that is, I don't plan to make huge changes to it. I will, however, not
> abandon it, and I will continue to fix any problems that are reported
> and add improvements that are desired. I keep the theme in a mercurial
> repository at htttp://devel.sheep.art.pl/europython, but I can move it
> somewhere, like bitbucket, if needed. Of course all collaboration on
> improving it is welcome.

I think the theme works very well for the given purpose. My own suggestions 
for improvements would involve separate extensions or patches. An example of 
the latter category is a patch I have for making the edit spans one sees in 
RecentChanges (for example, "[1-3]") selectable, so that one can see groups 
of changes made by an individual a lot quicker than going through the info 
page and manually selecting the range of diffs to be shown.

With regard to such patches, I don't know what the situation is with Moin 1.x 
and whether there's any interest in adding such enhancements, but I've 
submitted a few patches like that to the Moin project anyway.

Paul
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-03 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:11 PM, anatoly techtonik  wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Radomir Dopieralski  
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM, "Martin v. Löwis"  wrote:
 Is there any chance of getting the Python theme replaced (at least as the
 default) with the EuroPython theme, as previously proposed...?

 http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/Europython
>>>
>>> If somebody volunteers to make that change: sure. I'm not a web
>>> designer, so I don't know anything about schemes. Unfortunately,
>>> the Moin installation is still basically unmaintained.
>>>
>>> Radomir?
>>
>> I'm sorry for the delay, I have added the europython theme to the
>> themes available on the python wiki in user preferences. Once we are
>> happy with how it looks and behaves, we can make it the default theme.
>
> Will it change itself to make us happy, or we will just become happy
> over time? =)
> I.e. what is the development process?

Well, I made this theme some years ago, basing it on how the
python.org looked then (there has been some slight changes in font and
column sizes, I guess), with the hopes of replacing the current
wiki.python.org theme. Later it was used for the europython wiki and
it got some improvements based on the feedback I got. I volunteered to
update and maintain the python wiki, but somehow never found the time
to sort out all the details. Now that I did, I hope to help with the
wiki on regular basis, and also add any changes and
details that might be needed for it.

Going back to your question, I consider the theme to be finished --
that is, I don't plan to make huge changes to it. I will, however, not
abandon it, and I will continue to fix any problems that are reported
and add improvements that are desired. I keep the theme in a mercurial
repository at htttp://devel.sheep.art.pl/europython, but I can move it
somewhere, like bitbucket, if needed. Of course all collaboration on
improving it is welcome.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-03 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Radomir Dopieralski  wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM, "Martin v. Löwis"  wrote:
>>> Is there any chance of getting the Python theme replaced (at least as the
>>> default) with the EuroPython theme, as previously proposed...?
>>>
>>> http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/Europython
>>
>> If somebody volunteers to make that change: sure. I'm not a web
>> designer, so I don't know anything about schemes. Unfortunately,
>> the Moin installation is still basically unmaintained.
>>
>> Radomir?
>
> I'm sorry for the delay, I have added the europython theme to the
> themes available on the python wiki in user preferences. Once we are
> happy with how it looks and behaves, we can make it the default theme.

Will it change itself to make us happy, or we will just become happy
over time? =)
I.e. what is the development process?
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-03 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM, "Martin v. Löwis"  wrote:
>> Is there any chance of getting the Python theme replaced (at least as the
>> default) with the EuroPython theme, as previously proposed...?
>>
>> http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/Europython
>
> If somebody volunteers to make that change: sure. I'm not a web
> designer, so I don't know anything about schemes. Unfortunately,
> the Moin installation is still basically unmaintained.
>
> Radomir?

I'm sorry for the delay, I have added the europython theme to the
themes available on the python wiki in user preferences. Once we are
happy with how it looks and behaves, we can make it the default theme.


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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Is there any chance of getting the Python theme replaced (at least as the 
> default) with the EuroPython theme, as previously proposed...?
> 
> http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/Europython

If somebody volunteers to make that change: sure. I'm not a web
designer, so I don't know anything about schemes. Unfortunately,
the Moin installation is still basically unmaintained.

Radomir?

Regards,
Martin
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-02 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 00:20:25 Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> > Here's the configuration option that needs to be adjusted:
> >
> > http://moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration/UserPreferences
> >
> > "edit_on_doubleclick" - Open editor on double click
>
> Thanks for the pointer; I have now changed the default of that value.

Is there any chance of getting the Python theme replaced (at least as the 
default) with the EuroPython theme, as previously proposed...?

http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/Europython

The Python theme began to look a bit worn out when the upgrade to Moin 1.6 
occurred, if I remember correctly, and I haven't used it myself for a few 
years. The EuroPython theme, on the other hand, has been actively used 
recently and fits in better with the current python.org styling, although I 
see that Moin 1.9.3 demands some modifications to the theme's CSS code.

Paul
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 02.03.2011 02:06, schrieb anatoly techtonik:
> OpenID login to bugtracker through Gmail doesn't work. Google Accounts
> page responds with
> "The page you requested is invalid."

That's a different machine, though - it doesn't have to do anything with
this update.

Regards,
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-01 Thread anatoly techtonik
OpenID login to bugtracker through Gmail doesn't work. Google Accounts
page responds with
"The page you requested is invalid."
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:14 AM, "Martin v. Löwis"  wrote:
> I have completed the upgrades earlier today. If there is anything
> broken, please post it here (or fix it yourself if you can).
>
> Regards,
> Martin
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Here's the configuration option that needs to be adjusted:
> 
> http://moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration/UserPreferences
> 
> "edit_on_doubleclick" - Open editor on double click

Thanks for the pointer; I have now changed the default of that value.

Regards,
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-01 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Jeff Rush wrote:
>> On 03/01/2011 12:20 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
>>>
>>> This is what I still cannot reproduce. If I'm not logged in,
>>> double-clicking on the main page does nothing to me (except to select some
>>> piece of text).
>>
>> I see the Richard's problem here as well.  The trick to seeing it is to
>> be sure you are on a page that *can* be edited anonymously.  If you do
>> it on the FrontPage or other page that -requires- a login, a
>> double-click just selects text.
>>
>> Try it on this anonymously-editable page:
>>
>>http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonConferences
> 
> This is a user preference in MoinMoin. If you're not logged in, a
> default will be used and it's possible that this default was changed
> in recent MoinMoin versions.

Here's the configuration option that needs to be adjusted:

http://moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration/UserPreferences

"edit_on_doubleclick" - Open editor on double click

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-01 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Jeff Rush wrote:
> On 03/01/2011 12:20 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
>>
>> This is what I still cannot reproduce. If I'm not logged in,
>> double-clicking on the main page does nothing to me (except to select some
>> piece of text).
> 
> I see the Richard's problem here as well.  The trick to seeing it is to
> be sure you are on a page that *can* be edited anonymously.  If you do
> it on the FrontPage or other page that -requires- a login, a
> double-click just selects text.
> 
> Try it on this anonymously-editable page:
> 
>http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonConferences

This is a user preference in MoinMoin. If you're not logged in, a
default will be used and it's possible that this default was changed
in recent MoinMoin versions.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-03-01 Thread Jeff Rush
On 03/01/2011 12:20 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> 
> This is what I still cannot reproduce. If I'm not logged in,
> double-clicking on the main page does nothing to me (except to select some
> piece of text).

I see the Richard's problem here as well.  The trick to seeing it is to
be sure you are on a page that *can* be edited anonymously.  If you do
it on the FrontPage or other page that -requires- a login, a
double-click just selects text.

Try it on this anonymously-editable page:

   http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonConferences

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-02-28 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 01.03.2011 01:30, schrieb Richard Jones:
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:10 AM, "Martin v. Löwis"  wrote:
>> Am 01.03.2011 00:49, schrieb "Martin v. Löwis":
>>> Am 01.03.2011 00:43, schrieb Richard Jones:
 On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM, anatoly techtonik  
 wrote:
> Seems like Wiki was updated to 1.9.3 - nice.

 It looks like the upgrade included some new double-click handler on
 the wiki pages. When a double-click is detected the page switches to
 edit mode. This is quite annoying as double-click is already used to
 select words in the page text. Could the moin double-click behaviour
 be disabled please?
>>>
>>> I can't reproduce it. On what URL do I have to double-click on what
>>> position to give undesirable behavior?
>>
>> I found it. Go to
>>
>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=userprefs&sub=prefs
>>
>> and deselect "Open editor on double click". Then click "Save".
> 
> Ah, excellent, thanks! When I remembered to log in the setting was
> already unchecked - it's turned on by default for anonymous users I
> guess.

This is what I still cannot reproduce. If I'm not logged in,
double-clicking on the main page does nothing to me (except to select some
piece of text).

Regards,
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-02-28 Thread Richard Jones
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:10 AM, "Martin v. Löwis"  wrote:
> Am 01.03.2011 00:49, schrieb "Martin v. Löwis":
>> Am 01.03.2011 00:43, schrieb Richard Jones:
>>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM, anatoly techtonik  
>>> wrote:
 Seems like Wiki was updated to 1.9.3 - nice.
>>>
>>> It looks like the upgrade included some new double-click handler on
>>> the wiki pages. When a double-click is detected the page switches to
>>> edit mode. This is quite annoying as double-click is already used to
>>> select words in the page text. Could the moin double-click behaviour
>>> be disabled please?
>>
>> I can't reproduce it. On what URL do I have to double-click on what
>> position to give undesirable behavior?
>
> I found it. Go to
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=userprefs&sub=prefs
>
> and deselect "Open editor on double click". Then click "Save".

Ah, excellent, thanks! When I remembered to log in the setting was
already unchecked - it's turned on by default for anonymous users I
guess.


 Richard
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-02-28 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 01.03.2011 00:49, schrieb "Martin v. Löwis":
> Am 01.03.2011 00:43, schrieb Richard Jones:
>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM, anatoly techtonik  
>> wrote:
>>> Seems like Wiki was updated to 1.9.3 - nice.
>>
>> It looks like the upgrade included some new double-click handler on
>> the wiki pages. When a double-click is detected the page switches to
>> edit mode. This is quite annoying as double-click is already used to
>> select words in the page text. Could the moin double-click behaviour
>> be disabled please?
> 
> I can't reproduce it. On what URL do I have to double-click on what
> position to give undesirable behavior?

I found it. Go to

http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=userprefs&sub=prefs

and deselect "Open editor on double click". Then click "Save".

HTH,
Martin
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-02-28 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 01.03.2011 00:43, schrieb Richard Jones:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM, anatoly techtonik  
> wrote:
>> Seems like Wiki was updated to 1.9.3 - nice.
> 
> It looks like the upgrade included some new double-click handler on
> the wiki pages. When a double-click is detected the page switches to
> edit mode. This is quite annoying as double-click is already used to
> select words in the page text. Could the moin double-click behaviour
> be disabled please?

I can't reproduce it. On what URL do I have to double-click on what
position to give undesirable behavior?

Regards,
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-02-28 Thread Richard Jones
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM, anatoly techtonik  wrote:
> Seems like Wiki was updated to 1.9.3 - nice.

It looks like the upgrade included some new double-click handler on
the wiki pages. When a double-click is detected the page switches to
edit mode. This is quite annoying as double-click is already used to
select words in the page text. Could the moin double-click behaviour
be disabled please?


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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-02-19 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 19.02.2011 08:07, schrieb anatoly techtonik:
> Seems like Wiki was updated to 1.9.3 - nice. I've changed Wiki theme
> in preferences to old-python (not sure, but seems it was the last) and
> now I my account is blocked getting 500 errors while accessing
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/

Please try again; this should be fixed now.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-02-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
Seems like Wiki was updated to 1.9.3 - nice. I've changed Wiki theme
in preferences to old-python (not sure, but seems it was the last) and
now I my account is blocked getting 500 errors while accessing
http://wiki.python.org/moin/

BTW, can anybody send me our MoinMoin backup without users data. I
want to see how can we hack themes and stuff, and also check if
upgrade process didn't miss anything like new plugins, updated
interwiki.txt etc.
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:14 AM, "Martin v. Löwis"  wrote:
> I have completed the upgrades earlier today. If there is anything
> broken, please post it here (or fix it yourself if you can).
>
> Regards,
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-02-18 Thread Steve Holden

On Feb 18, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Éric Araujo wrote:

> Thanks to the sysadmins for their work.
> 
> Regards


+1

regards
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-02-18 Thread Éric Araujo
Thanks to the sysadmins for their work.

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[pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed

2011-02-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I have completed the upgrades earlier today. If there is anything
broken, please post it here (or fix it yourself if you can).

Regards,
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