Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:23 AM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure. It appears it didn't help. Creating of a new page took 35seconds, which is twice the worst editing operation that I personally experienced with previous install. Did we look into the potential problem with mail notifications...? No, we didn't look into this at all. Actually I did, and I tried to find a way of deleting the unused user accounts to alleviate the problem, but it's not easy to determine which accounts are unused with the current moin. I will look at that patch, but I have my doubts about how much can be cached with the current architecture. Also, it will no longer be moinmoin as provided by the system package, unless I find a way to monkey-patch that code from the configuration (it can still break on updates then). -- Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow? Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure. It appears it didn't help. Creating of a new page took 35seconds, which is twice the worst editing operation that I personally experienced with previous install. Page.execute = 0.001s antispam = 5.375s getACL = 0.010s init = 0.012s load_multi_cfg = 0.000s parsePageLinks = 0.021s run = 35.269s send_page = 0.393s send_page_content = 0.027s total = 35.281s -- anatoly t. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: * anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow? Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure. It appears it didn't help. Creating of a new page took 35seconds, which is twice the worst editing operation that I personally experienced with previous install. Page.execute = 0.001s antispam = 5.375s getACL = 0.010s init = 0.012s load_multi_cfg = 0.000s parsePageLinks = 0.021s run = 35.269s send_page = 0.393s send_page_content = 0.027s total = 35.281s Looks like a 30s DNS tiemout if you ask me. (Basically 5s for antispam and the 30s of basically nothing) Disk I/O? -- anatoly t. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
[pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
anatoly techtonik wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis martin at v.loewis.de wrote: Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow? Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure. It appears it didn't help. Creating of a new page took 35seconds, which is twice the worst editing operation that I personally experienced with previous install. Did we look into the potential problem with mail notifications...? http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pydotorg-www/2012-June/001841.html See also this: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/GetSubscribersSlow Paul ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure. It appears it didn't help. Creating of a new page took 35seconds, which is twice the worst editing operation that I personally experienced with previous install. Did we look into the potential problem with mail notifications...? No, we didn't look into this at all. Regards, Martin ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
total = 35.281s I can't reproduce this. I got total = 9.319s I don't understand what do you mean by can't reproduce. Do you want to say that 10s is ok? No, I want to say that 10s is significantly less than 30s; I was not able to reproduce a run-time of 30s. Regards, Martin ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:28 AM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: total = 35.281s I can't reproduce this. I got total = 9.319s I don't understand what do you mean by can't reproduce. Do you want to say that 10s is ok? No, I want to say that 10s is significantly less than 30s; I was not able to reproduce a run-time of 30s. Ok. So the performance question stays open. Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow? Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure. It appears it didn't help. What's next? ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
[pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
Hi guys, Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow? Do we have any public monitoring/metrics about how long it takes to make a request? Can we enable this info in the footer? -- Forwarded message -- From: Winston Wolff winstonwo...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:13 PM Subject: Re: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap To: pyglet-us...@googlegroups.com wiki.python.org/moin is too slow. It takes 10 seconds each time I want to save my page. Can someone give me permission for editing http://code.google.com/p/pyglet/wiki and I can put stuff there? I'm going to post: - a To Do list so we can coordinate who is doing what - A list of configurations to be tested, with how has tested them and the outcomes. On Jun 15, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Winston Wolff wrote: Friday is my 20% day so I'm going to do some stuff to help release Pyglet. I'm taking Anatoly's to-do list and posting it on this wiki page as a central coordinating point. Anybody who wants to do an item, put your name next to it. When it's done, put a DONE next to it. http://wiki.python.org/moin/Pyglet -Winston On Jun 13, 2012, at 12:27 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: Pri-1--- [ ] update web site [ ] fix epydoc [ ] add an issue to tracker [ ] move web site to Bitbucket [ ] create group 'pyglet' [ ] add repository pyglet.bitbucket.org (see https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/Publishing+a+Website+on+bitbucket) [ ] add CNAME for pyglet.org to pyglet.bitbucket.org (I am not sure, but it should work) [ ] mention 1.2 [ ] direct link to Google Code from top menu [ ] update Contribute to be clear [ ] send patches [ ] site in repository is broken http://code.google.com/p/pyglet/source/browse/#hg%2Fwebsite [ ] write instructions / fix it to work from checkout (s) Richard needs time [ ] merge cocoa port [ ] write README (s) how is pyglet 1.2 different from 1.1? [ ] support 64bit Python [ ] write ANNOUNCEMENT (s) what's new? ---Pri-2--- [ ] update wiki pages [ ] draw a line on http://code.google.com/p/pyglet/wiki/ReleaseSchedule [ ] integrate patches (s) Richard [ ] update issue tracker [ ] add website label to issue tracker [ ] allow users to assign labels when creating new issues [ ] add 1.2 milestone (s) Richard ---Pri-3--- [ ] build a windows installer [ ] try [ ] list problems So, who can help with any of the stuff above? Is there anything is missing? Is there anybody besides Richard with an access to wiki? Or we can use http://wiki.python.org/moin/Pyglet, because: 1. it is free-for-all 2. you can subscribe to pages to be notified about changes Yes/No? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pyglet-users group. To post to this group, send email to pyglet-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pyglet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pyglet-users?hl=en. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow? Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure. Regards, Martin ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow? Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure. And still - that's the cause of the bottleneck? ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Radomir Dopieralski sh...@sheep.art.pl wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:31 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow? Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure. And still - that's the cause of the bottleneck? I enabled the timing information. I'm not 100% sure here, but on other large wikis the long saving times were usualy due to having to process a lot of regular expressions from all the user preferences in order to see whether the page title matches their mail notification patterns. The results of write operations are very sad - 14 seconds. Is it possible to postpone mail notifications or do them asyncronously? Page.execute = 0.000s antispam = 1.281s getACL = 0.003s init = 0.001s load_multi_cfg = 0.000s parsePageLinks = 0.010s run = 13.566s send_page = 0.050s send_page_content = 0.006s total = 13.567s If we're going to stick these stats (they're worthy to have at hand) then rendering it in one line that expanded if clicked for copy/paste would make pages look as good as before. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
