Re: [pygame] patch: build against frameworks or regular libraries on OS X
Hello, below are some updated instructions for how to install with homebrew on OSX. I've only tested on OSX 10.7 Lion so far. cheersm How to install via the python in your path (likely the apple python): brew install sdl sdl_image sdl_mixer sdl_ttf smpeg portmidi sudo pip install hg+http://bitbucket.org/pygame/pygame How to install to the brew supplied python. brew install python brew install sdl sdl_image sdl_mixer sdl_ttf smpeg portmidi /usr/local/share/python/pip install hg+http://bitbucket.org/pygame/pygame The issue was updated too. https://bitbucket.org/pygame/pygame/issue/82/homebrew -on-leopard-fails-to-install
Re: [pygame] car game mechanics
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Joe Ranalli jrana...@gmail.com wrote: The article that Nathan linked does provide a method for more complex treatment of a car. Instead of treating the car as simply rotating about its center, they're accounting for the fact that a real car steers using its front wheels while the back wheels are fixed. Even implementing that approach in python using Nathans current programming method would cause unrealistic behavior due to similar rounding and transformation size errors . I read that article and I think I found a problem with the algorithm it presents. If you try to implement that algorithm and it gives you bad results, check out the comment that I left there. -Christopher
[pygame] Re: Import error on Windows
In article
CAEiAHj+kp2gbeZV=C=xvlot3_sc6r64oac3adz+dyfqbkpm...@mail.gmail.com,
René Dudfield ren...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Russell E. Owen
ro...@uw.edu wrote:
A colleague is building a Windows application using py2exe. He recently
upgraded from Python 2.5 and pygame 1.9.1 to Python 2.7 and pygame
1.9.2pre.win32.py2.7 (I'm guessing 1.9.2a0 but I can't confirm that).
This application only plays sounds, so it only imports pygame.mixer
However, after upgrading Python and pygame the application fails with an
import error, saying it can't find pygame._view.
For now he's hacked around the problem by explicitly importing
pygame._view in the code. However, surely this should not be necessary?
I hope this is a fixable bug in 1.9.2 prerelease
The import error seems to be because py2exe is not detecting the _view
module. There is probably some hack we can do to fix this (like importing
it manually somewhere so py2exe can find it).
I've committed this change, so maybe it will work now without the manual
import in the app.
Thank you very much. I'll let my colleague know.
@Lenard: do you think this would be ok to do?
-- Russell
P.S. I never got any response to my offer of a binary installer of 1.9.1
for Mac Python 2.7. It's still available here:
http://www.astro.washington.edu/users/rowen/python/pygame-1.9.1release-p
ython.org-32bit-py2.7-macosx10.3.dmg
and it would be great if you folks were willing to serve it.
Thanks for that!
Are you able to get some testing for that binary by someone on a separate
machine to yours? Does it pass all of the tests? We need to make sure
binaries get some testing before we put them up there.
The unit tests (python run_tests.py) pass on two machines of mine (MacOS
X 10.6.8 and 10.4.11--the machine I use to build it), except for one
failure:
ERROR: all_tests_for (test.midi_test.AllTestCases)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
File test/test.midi_test.py, line 1, in all_tests_for
subprocess completely failed with return code of 0
cmd:
['/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Resources/Python.app/
Contents/MacOS/Python',
'/Users/rowen/Archives/PythonPackages/pygame-1.9.1release/test/test_utils
/test_runner.py', 'test.midi_test', '--exclude',
'interactive,subprocess_ignore,python2_ignore', '--timings', '1']
test_env: {'_':
'/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/python',
'LESS': '-r', 'TERM_PROGRAM_VERSION': '273.1', 'ORIGINAL_PATH':
'/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11/bin', 'CVS_RSH':
'ssh', 'LOGNAME': 'rowen', 'USER': 'rowen', 'HOME': '/Users/rowen',
'PATH':
'/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin:/usr/local/bin
:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11/bin', 'PS1':
'\\u$ ', 'LSST_HOME': '/Users/rowen/lsst_home', 'TERM_PROGRAM':
'Apple_Terminal', 'LANG': 'en_US.UTF-8', 'HISTCONTROL': 'ignoreboth',
'TERM': 'xterm-color', 'Apple_PubSub_Socket_Render':
'/tmp/launch-LmXbYf/Render', 'SHLVL': '1', 'MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET':
'10.4', 'DISPLAY': '/tmp/launch-PZ3s9N/org.x:0', 'EDITOR': 'bbedit -w',
'JAVA_HOME': '/Library/Java/Home/', 'SSH_AUTH_SOCK':
'/tmp/launch-4CUEgj/Listeners', 'SCONSFLAGS': '-j 2', 'SHELL':
'/bin/bash', 'SDSS_SVN': 'svn+ssh://sdss3...@sdss3.org/repo', 'TMPDIR':
'/var/folders/Du/DuJBXd5MH1WSXM9MbpPOek+++TI/-Tmp-/', 'ANT_HOME':
'/usr/local/ant/', 'LSST_SVN': 'svn+ssh://svn.lsstcorp.org', 'OLDPWD':
'/Users/rowen/Archives/PythonPackages/pygame-1.9.1release/test',
'__CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING': '0x1F5:0:0', 'PWD':
'/Users/rowen/Archives/PythonPackages/pygame-1.9.1release', 'PAGER':
'less', 'COMMAND_MODE': 'legacy'}
working_dir: /Users/rowen/Archives/PythonPackages/pygame-1.9.1release
return (top 5 lines):
By comparison, your standard binary installer for python.org Python 2.6
has 7 unit test failures on my 10.4.11 machine. So this is potentially
an improvement.
The sound stuff is well tested -- lots of people are using it in an app
I distribute, on a variety of Macs. Unfortunately my application does
not exercise any of the rest of pygame.
If you have a bitbucket username, I can add you so that you can upload files
onto there. We are moving to hosting the files on there, and having the
main website sync from there.
I just created a bitbucket login: rowen
-- Russell
[pygame] recommended reading for organizing code / project
Hey everybody, I'm looking for something to read about organizing one's code. I'm working on a final fantasy-type game, and as the project gets more complex I'm starting to think about best practices for development, code patterns, code organization and project organization, etc. I'm pretty much self taught on python and programming so I missed out on a bunch of that I'm sure would be covered by say a CS degree. I know there are some great books out there, for example Code Patterns and Antipatterns. I personally own 'Game Coding Complete' by Mike McShaffry and I'm going to take another pass through that. Any recommendations? Anything that's particularly useful for game development? Thanks!! PS. on an unrelated note, anybody out there tinkering with the Haskell programming language? I randomly encountered it while looking at the Geany IDE and it lookspretty interesting. -- A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write, if he is to be ultimately at peace with himself. - Abraham Maslow
Re: [pygame] recommended reading for organizing code / project
Sean Wolfe ether@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for something to read about organizing one's code. I'm working on a final fantasy-type game, and as the project gets more complex I'm starting to think about best practices for development, code patterns, code organization and project organization, etc. I'm pretty much self taught on python and programming so I missed out on a bunch of that I'm sure would be covered by say a CS degree. I know there are some great books out there, for example Code Patterns and Antipatterns. I personally own 'Game Coding Complete' by Mike McShaffry and I'm going to take another pass through that. Any recommendations? Anything that's particularly useful for game development? Thanks!! The issue of code organization is one of the core challenges facing the modern programmer. Object Oriented Programming is a paradigm more or less explicitly dedicated to managing the level of complexity that a programmer has to understand to accomplish a discrete task. It does this by providing useful abstractions that allow large sections of the entire codebase to be understood at a level sufficient to work outside of them at a minimal cost to the programmer's brain. Modern applications (game and otherwise) are far too complex to hold in one's head all at once, no matter how able a programmer and designer one is. So I would answer that the first step in fixing your problem is working on your grasp of object-oriented design principles.
Re: [pygame] recommended reading for organizing code / project
On 01.09.11 23:24, Sean Wolfe wrote: I'm looking for something to read about organizing one's code. Any recommendations? This thread from 2009 on the python mailing list has some great practical advice (if I may say so, having written a reply there myself). Be sure to follow the link to Jean-Paul's blog post as well. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/2122c45d0d913a31 Chris
Re: [pygame] recommended reading for organizing code / project
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, NBarnes nbar...@gmail.com wrote: The issue of code organization is one of the core challenges facing the modern programmer. Object Oriented Programming is a paradigm more or less explicitly dedicated to managing the level of complexity that a programmer has to understand to accomplish a discrete task. It does this by providing useful abstractions that allow large sections of the entire codebase to be understood at a level sufficient to work outside of them at a minimal cost to the programmer's brain. Modern applications (game and otherwise) are far too complex to hold in one's head all at once, no matter how able a programmer and designer one is. Yes, I remember being taught this. I also found it to be only party true. My code is efficient, so no matter how big I need to make it, it literally tends to take me about 1/4 the code of others. Also, I can hold *a lot* of code in my head at once. I don't think that's unusual for a fairly proficient programmer. Finally, even if I can't remember what and how something works, a moment's thought tells me exactly how I did it--because for a given design, there's the clean, good way to do it. So I would answer that the first step in fixing your problem is working on your grasp of object-oriented design principles. Personally, I think that good coding is an acquired skill. I can throw terms at you, like encapsulation or least privilege, but you really don't know why those are good until you want code reuse/modularity, and a clean, robust API, respectively. For me, anyway, I learned how to use these even before I knew that they were official design patterns--if you know your language, good code naturally follows from thinking about efficiency. The good news is that these terms are easily available on the web. The bad news is that you need to use all of them at some point before you get them. Frankly, most universities ignore this fact. This is why dumb design patterns get used in practice. My recommendation: do nothing different, except, before starting something, think: Hmmm, what could I do that would make this more efficient? Is there any clever way I can use classes to make this simpler? Inheritance? Insert _ language feature? Once you step back from the problem like this, what to do becomes obvious, whether or not you know just what it's called. It takes until upper division CS to even touch on this--and even then they never say that as directly. Ian
Re: [pygame] recommended reading for organizing code / project
I appreciate the advice guys. OOP is definitely something I'm trying to leverage. I was thinking along the lines of OOP type patterns, best practices, etc... or even just general game programming. Especially if anybody has any favorite books! I heart good books. Thanks for the responses so far! On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Ian Mallett geometr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, NBarnes nbar...@gmail.com wrote: The issue of code organization is one of the core challenges facing the modern programmer. Object Oriented Programming is a paradigm more or less explicitly dedicated to managing the level of complexity that a programmer has to understand to accomplish a discrete task. It does this by providing useful abstractions that allow large sections of the entire codebase to be understood at a level sufficient to work outside of them at a minimal cost to the programmer's brain. Modern applications (game and otherwise) are far too complex to hold in one's head all at once, no matter how able a programmer and designer one is. Yes, I remember being taught this. I also found it to be only party true. My code is efficient, so no matter how big I need to make it, it literally tends to take me about 1/4 the code of others. Also, I can hold a lot of code in my head at once. I don't think that's unusual for a fairly proficient programmer. Finally, even if I can't remember what and how something works, a moment's thought tells me exactly how I did it--because for a given design, there's the clean, good way to do it. So I would answer that the first step in fixing your problem is working on your grasp of object-oriented design principles. Personally, I think that good coding is an acquired skill. I can throw terms at you, like encapsulation or least privilege, but you really don't know why those are good until you want code reuse/modularity, and a clean, robust API, respectively. For me, anyway, I learned how to use these even before I knew that they were official design patterns--if you know your language, good code naturally follows from thinking about efficiency. The good news is that these terms are easily available on the web. The bad news is that you need to use all of them at some point before you get them. Frankly, most universities ignore this fact. This is why dumb design patterns get used in practice. My recommendation: do nothing different, except, before starting something, think: Hmmm, what could I do that would make this more efficient? Is there any clever way I can use classes to make this simpler? Inheritance? Insert _ language feature? Once you step back from the problem like this, what to do becomes obvious, whether or not you know just what it's called. It takes until upper division CS to even touch on this--and even then they never say that as directly. Ian -- A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write, if he is to be ultimately at peace with himself. - Abraham Maslow
Re: [pygame] recommended reading for organizing code / project
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Sean Wolfe ether@gmail.com wrote: I heart good books. cough *experience* /cough :-)
Re: [pygame] recommended reading for organizing code / project
A good book is basically a compilation of somebody else's experience, right? Nothing wrong with that imo. Especially if you're on the throne... you've got the time. owait ... tmi On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Ian Mallett geometr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Sean Wolfe ether@gmail.com wrote: I heart good books. cough *experience* /cough :-) -- A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write, if he is to be ultimately at peace with himself. - Abraham Maslow
