Re: [pygame] Mailing List Discard Tweak

[Ian Mallett]

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Philip Le Riche 
wrote:

> The only snag with sending reject replies is that it's then open to
> abuse. If I took a dislike to someone (not a subscriber), I could send
> hundreds of emails to the list, spoofing his email address as the
> sender. He'd then get his inbox swamped.
>
​I disagree, and cite precedent in use by other mailing lists. If the
targeted user is on the mailing list, there is no rejection notice. If not,
then the attack is no different from any of the related variety of
backscatter mailer exploits.

I personally subscribe to the view of RFC 5321
:
*As discussed in Section 7.8 and Section 7.9 below, dropping mail without
notification of the sender is permitted in practice. However, it is
extremely dangerous and violates a long tradition and community
expectations that mail is either delivered or returned. . . . silent
dropping of messages should be considered only in those cases where there
is very high confidence that the messages are seriously fraudulent or
otherwise inappropriate.*

Re: [pygame] Mailing List Discard Tweak

[Philip Le Riche]

The only snag with sending reject replies is that it's then open to
abuse. If I took a dislike to someone (not a subscriber), I could send
hundreds of emails to the list, spoofing his email address as the
sender. He'd then get his inbox swamped. It's some standard mailing list
software which may or may not have the capability to rate-limit reject
messages.

Regards - Philip

On 13/06/2015 20:25, tom arnall wrote:
> ditto. thanks Ian for the suggestion.
>
> On 6/12/15, Ian Mallett  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I use GMail as my mailer client. The email associated with this
>> account is *geometriangmail.com
>> *. However, I use GMail to send from my personal
>> email *iangeometrian.com
>> * (and this is the default). I am subscribed to the
>> mailing list under the *first*.
>>
>> It seems that the pygame mailing list silently rejects emails from
>> addresses that are not registered, to the effect that emails from my
>> personal email are silently discarded. The effect is that I have been
>> having one-sided conversations with myself for years, every time I forget
>> to use *geometriangmail.com *.
>>
>> *I propose that messages from emails not subscribed to the list be rejected
>> with a message informing the sender of such*.
>>
>> I have unsubscribed the GMail address and subscribed the personal address,
>> fixing the problem, hopefully. However, I still recommend the above action.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ian
>>
>

Re: [pygame] Mailing List Discard Tweak

[tom arnall]

ditto. thanks Ian for the suggestion.

On 6/12/15, Ian Mallett  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I use GMail as my mailer client. The email associated with this
> account is *geometriangmail.com
> *. However, I use GMail to send from my personal
> email *iangeometrian.com
> * (and this is the default). I am subscribed to the
> mailing list under the *first*.
>
> It seems that the pygame mailing list silently rejects emails from
> addresses that are not registered, to the effect that emails from my
> personal email are silently discarded. The effect is that I have been
> having one-sided conversations with myself for years, every time I forget
> to use *geometriangmail.com *.
>
> *I propose that messages from emails not subscribed to the list be rejected
> with a message informing the sender of such*.
>
> I have unsubscribed the GMail address and subscribed the personal address,
> fixing the problem, hopefully. However, I still recommend the above action.
>
> Thanks,
> Ian
>


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[pygame] Mailing List Discard Tweak

[Ian Mallett]

Hi all,

I use GMail as my mailer client. The email associated with this
account is *geometriangmail.com
*. However, I use GMail to send from my personal
email *iangeometrian.com
* (and this is the default). I am subscribed to the
mailing list under the *first*.

It seems that the pygame mailing list silently rejects emails from
addresses that are not registered, to the effect that emails from my
personal email are silently discarded. The effect is that I have been
having one-sided conversations with myself for years, every time I forget
to use *geometriangmail.com *.

*I propose that messages from emails not subscribed to the list be rejected
with a message informing the sender of such*.

I have unsubscribed the GMail address and subscribed the personal address,
fixing the problem, hopefully. However, I still recommend the above action.

Thanks,
Ian