Re: [pygtk] PyGTK - py2app - Mac OS X

2011-10-13 Thread Arjan Molenaar
Hi,

I was a bit disappointed in the capabilities of py2app in combination with 
PyGTK.

I wrote a blog how to package a Python app with a simple shell script.

http://blog.xebia.com/2011/03/31/bundling-a-python-application-on-mac-os-x-with-virtualenv/

Hope this helps,

Arjan

On 23 Sep 2011, at 18:15, Antoine Martin wrote:

 On 23/09/11 23:07, Shrihari Sankaran wrote:
  If you want to bundle PyGTK for OSX, you should probably take a look at:
 
 http://gtk-osx.sourceforge.net/
 
 Which will give you a native GTK (no need for X11), and in particular:
 
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/gtk-osx/wiki/Bundle
 
 A great step by step guide is here:
 
 http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/BuildingMacOSXInstall
 Cheers
 
 Antoine
 
 Does this work with PyGTK? Is there a guide available specifically for
 PyGTK?
 
 It does work with PyGTK, Tryton uses PyGTK and so does winswitch:
 http://winswitch.org/dev/macosx.html
 
 Cheers
 Antoine
 
 
 Thanks,
 Shrihari
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Shrihari Sankaran 
 gfxin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Anders F Björklund 
 
 a...@users.sourceforge.net
  wrote:
 
 
 Shrihari Sankaran wrote:
 
 
 Recently I managed to install PyGTK on my Mac and the app runs pretty
 
 decently on it too, but with few glitches. But, when I try to convert it
 into an 'app', the build is successful. When I run the app, i get the
 following errors:
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _FuncPtr object at
 0x1003d7ef0
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: Traceback (most
 recent call last):
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, 
 line
 179, in module
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: 
 _argv_emulation()
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, 
 line
 177, in _argv_emulation
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:
 _get_argvemulator().mainloop()
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, 
 line
 101, in mainloop
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: stoptime =
 Evt.TickCount() + timeout
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: AttributeError:
 'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount'
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.863 PM movie_monkey: movie_monkey Error
 22/09/11 10:10:07.790 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501:
 
 ([0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey[8704]) Exited with
 code: 255
 
 This problem comes from py2app running as 64-bit, trying to use Carbon...
 You need to e.g. set the environment VERSIONER_PYTHON_PREFER_32_BIT=yes
 
 Or use something else to make the bundle, that is compatible with x86_64.
 If you update macholib and py2app to the latest, it should be fixed too ?
 
 --anders
 
 
 
 When Python is running in 64-bit, the build is not successful at all. So, i
 built it after converting to 32-bit. I get the above errors in 32-bit only.
 And, I installed the latest macholib and py2app via easy_install.
 
 --
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Re: [pygtk] PyGTK - py2app - Mac OS X

2011-09-23 Thread Anders F Björklund
Shrihari Sankaran wrote:

 Recently I managed to install PyGTK on my Mac and the app runs pretty 
 decently on it too, but with few glitches. But, when I try to convert it into 
 an 'app', the build is successful. When I run the app, i get the following 
 errors:
 
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _FuncPtr object at 
 0x1003d7ef0
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: Traceback (most recent 
 call last):
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File 
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line 
 179, in module
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _argv_emulation()
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File 
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line 
 177, in _argv_emulation
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: 
 _get_argvemulator().mainloop()
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File 
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line 
 101, in mainloop
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: stoptime = 
 Evt.TickCount() + timeout
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM 
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: AttributeError: 
 'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount'
 22/09/11 10:10:06.863 PM movie_monkey: movie_monkey Error
 22/09/11 10:10:07.790 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501: 
 ([0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey[8704]) Exited with 
 code: 255

This problem comes from py2app running as 64-bit, trying to use Carbon...
You need to e.g. set the environment VERSIONER_PYTHON_PREFER_32_BIT=yes

Or use something else to make the bundle, that is compatible with x86_64.
If you update macholib and py2app to the latest, it should be fixed too ?

--anders

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Re: [pygtk] PyGTK - py2app - Mac OS X

2011-09-23 Thread Shrihari Sankaran
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Anders F Björklund 
a...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

 Shrihari Sankaran wrote:

  Recently I managed to install PyGTK on my Mac and the app runs pretty
 decently on it too, but with few glitches. But, when I try to convert it
 into an 'app', the build is successful. When I run the app, i get the
 following errors:
 
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _FuncPtr object at
 0x1003d7ef0
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: Traceback (most
 recent call last):
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 179, in module
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _argv_emulation()
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 177, in _argv_emulation
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:
 _get_argvemulator().mainloop()
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 101, in mainloop
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: stoptime =
 Evt.TickCount() + timeout
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: AttributeError:
 'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount'
  22/09/11 10:10:06.863 PM movie_monkey: movie_monkey Error
  22/09/11 10:10:07.790 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501:
 ([0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey[8704]) Exited with
 code: 255

 This problem comes from py2app running as 64-bit, trying to use Carbon...
 You need to e.g. set the environment VERSIONER_PYTHON_PREFER_32_BIT=yes

 Or use something else to make the bundle, that is compatible with x86_64.
 If you update macholib and py2app to the latest, it should be fixed too ?

 --anders


When Python is running in 64-bit, the build is not successful at all. So, i
built it after converting to 32-bit. I get the above errors in 32-bit only.
And, I installed the latest macholib and py2app via easy_install.

--
Shrihari
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Re: [pygtk] PyGTK - py2app - Mac OS X

2011-09-23 Thread Shrihari Sankaran

  If you want to bundle PyGTK for OSX, you should probably take a look at:

 http://gtk-osx.sourceforge.net/

 Which will give you a native GTK (no need for X11), and in particular:

 http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/gtk-osx/wiki/Bundle

 A great step by step guide is here:

 http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/BuildingMacOSXInstall


 Cheers

 Antoine


Does this work with PyGTK? Is there a guide available specifically for
PyGTK?

Thanks,
Shrihari


On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Shrihari Sankaran gfxin...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Anders F Björklund 
 a...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

 Shrihari Sankaran wrote:

  Recently I managed to install PyGTK on my Mac and the app runs pretty
 decently on it too, but with few glitches. But, when I try to convert it
 into an 'app', the build is successful. When I run the app, i get the
 following errors:
 
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _FuncPtr object at
 0x1003d7ef0
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: Traceback (most
 recent call last):
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 179, in module
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _argv_emulation()
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 177, in _argv_emulation
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:
 _get_argvemulator().mainloop()
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 101, in mainloop
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: stoptime =
 Evt.TickCount() + timeout
  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: AttributeError:
 'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount'
  22/09/11 10:10:06.863 PM movie_monkey: movie_monkey Error
  22/09/11 10:10:07.790 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501:
 ([0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey[8704]) Exited with
 code: 255

 This problem comes from py2app running as 64-bit, trying to use Carbon...
 You need to e.g. set the environment VERSIONER_PYTHON_PREFER_32_BIT=yes

 Or use something else to make the bundle, that is compatible with x86_64.
 If you update macholib and py2app to the latest, it should be fixed too ?

 --anders


 When Python is running in 64-bit, the build is not successful at all. So, i
 built it after converting to 32-bit. I get the above errors in 32-bit only.
 And, I installed the latest macholib and py2app via easy_install.

 --
 Shrihari

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Re: [pygtk] PyGTK - py2app - Mac OS X

2011-09-23 Thread Antoine Martin
On 23/09/11 23:07, Shrihari Sankaran wrote:
  If you want to bundle PyGTK for OSX, you should probably take a look at:
 http://gtk-osx.sourceforge.net/
 Which will give you a native GTK (no need for X11), and in particular:
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/gtk-osx/wiki/Bundle
 A great step by step guide is here:
 http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/BuildingMacOSXInstall
 Cheers
 Antoine
 Does this work with PyGTK? Is there a guide available specifically for
 PyGTK?
It does work with PyGTK, Tryton uses PyGTK and so does winswitch:
http://winswitch.org/dev/macosx.html

Cheers
Antoine


 Thanks,
 Shrihari


 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Shrihari Sankaran gfxin...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Anders F Björklund 
 a...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

 Shrihari Sankaran wrote:

 Recently I managed to install PyGTK on my Mac and the app runs pretty
 decently on it too, but with few glitches. But, when I try to convert it
 into an 'app', the build is successful. When I run the app, i get the
 following errors:
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _FuncPtr object at
 0x1003d7ef0
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: Traceback (most
 recent call last):
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 179, in module
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _argv_emulation()
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 177, in _argv_emulation
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:
 _get_argvemulator().mainloop()
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 101, in mainloop
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: stoptime =
 Evt.TickCount() + timeout
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: AttributeError:
 'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount'
 22/09/11 10:10:06.863 PM movie_monkey: movie_monkey Error
 22/09/11 10:10:07.790 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501:
 ([0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey[8704]) Exited with
 code: 255

 This problem comes from py2app running as 64-bit, trying to use Carbon...
 You need to e.g. set the environment VERSIONER_PYTHON_PREFER_32_BIT=yes

 Or use something else to make the bundle, that is compatible with x86_64.
 If you update macholib and py2app to the latest, it should be fixed too ?

 --anders


 When Python is running in 64-bit, the build is not successful at all. So, i
 built it after converting to 32-bit. I get the above errors in 32-bit only.
 And, I installed the latest macholib and py2app via easy_install.

 --
 Shrihari



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[pygtk] PyGTK - py2app - Mac OS X

2011-09-22 Thread Shrihari Sankaran
Hello,

I have a PyGTK app that runs perfectly fine on Windows and Linux (Ubuntu) -
http://getmoviemonkey.com/

Recently I managed to install PyGTK on my Mac and the app runs pretty
decently on it too, but with few glitches. But, when I try to convert it
into an 'app', the build is successful. When I run the app, i get the
following errors:

 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _FuncPtr object at
 0x1003d7ef0

 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: Traceback (most
 recent call last):

 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 179, in module

 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _argv_emulation()

 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 177, in _argv_emulation

 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:
 _get_argvemulator().mainloop()

 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 101, in mainloop

 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: stoptime =
 Evt.TickCount() + timeout

 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: AttributeError:
 'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount'

 22/09/11 10:10:06.863 PM movie_monkey: movie_monkey Error

 22/09/11 10:10:07.790 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501:
 ([0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey[8704]) Exited with
 code: 255



I'm not able to make head or tail out of this. This is my setup file:

from setuptools import setup


 APP = ['movie_monkey.py']

DATA_FILES = ['movie_monkey.glade', 'res/', 'logo.png']

OPTIONS = {'argv_emulation': True}


 setup(

app=APP,

data_files=DATA_FILES,

options={'py2app': OPTIONS},

setup_requires=['py2app'],

)


Am I doing something wrong? Do I need to include any dependencies?





Thanks,
Shrihari
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Re: [pygtk] PyGTK - py2app - Mac OS X

2011-09-22 Thread Antoine Martin
If you want to bundle PyGTK for OSX, you should probably take a look at:
http://gtk-osx.sourceforge.net/
Which will give you a native GTK (no need for X11), and in particular:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/gtk-osx/wiki/Bundle
A great step by step guide is here:
http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/BuildingMacOSXInstall

Cheers
Antoine


On 23/09/11 00:02, Shrihari Sankaran wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a PyGTK app that runs perfectly fine on Windows and Linux (Ubuntu) -
 http://getmoviemonkey.com/

 Recently I managed to install PyGTK on my Mac and the app runs pretty
 decently on it too, but with few glitches. But, when I try to convert it
 into an 'app', the build is successful. When I run the app, i get the
 following errors:

  22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _FuncPtr object at
 0x1003d7ef0
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: Traceback (most
 recent call last):
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 179, in module
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: _argv_emulation()
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 177, in _argv_emulation
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:
 _get_argvemulator().mainloop()
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey:   File
 /opt/gtk/bin/mm/dist/movie_monkey.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py, line
 101, in mainloop
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: stoptime =
 Evt.TickCount() + timeout
 22/09/11 10:10:06.791 PM
 [0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey: AttributeError:
 'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount'
 22/09/11 10:10:06.863 PM movie_monkey: movie_monkey Error

 22/09/11 10:10:07.790 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501:
 ([0x0-0xb43b43].org.pythonmac.unspecified.movie_monkey[8704]) Exited with
 code: 255


 I'm not able to make head or tail out of this. This is my setup file:

 from setuptools import setup


 APP = ['movie_monkey.py']
 DATA_FILES = ['movie_monkey.glade', 'res/', 'logo.png']

 OPTIONS = {'argv_emulation': True}


 setup(
 app=APP,

 data_files=DATA_FILES,

 options={'py2app': OPTIONS},

 setup_requires=['py2app'],

 )


 Am I doing something wrong? Do I need to include any dependencies?



 Thanks,
 Shrihari



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