Re: [PyKDE] eric3 breakpoints?

2003-01-16 Thread Detlev Offenbach
Am Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2003 00:33 schrieb Phil Thompson:
> On Tuesday 14 January 2003 6:59 pm, Detlev Offenbach wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003 06:28 schrieb Greg Fortune:
> > > On Monday 13 January 2003 11:39 am, you wrote:
> > > > I was used to using break points on "eric" by clicking
> > > > in the border by the line numbers and getting the little
> > > > red stop sign, but it did not do the same on eric3.
> > > > I believe I've clicked everywhere possible along the borders
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Ditto here, but I finally got lucky and clicked the right place. 
> > > The first thing I tried was a right click on the source code line.
> > >  Maybe a context menu with "add breakpoint" and "remove
> > > breakpoint" could be attached to both the border and the source
> > > lines...
> >
> > 1) Unfortunately Scintilla uses the same color for margins that are
> > not used for the fold markers. This makes the middle margin nearly
> > non recognizable.
> >
> > 2) Again, this is not supported by QScintilla. There is not method
> > to convert a mouse position to a line number.
>
> SCI_POSITIONFROMPOINT then SCI_LINEFROMPOSITION?
>
> I can add something that does this to the high level API if you want.
>
> Phil

Hi Phil,

that would be great!

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Re: [PyKDE] Launching an App from PyQt

2003-01-16 Thread Detlev Offenbach
Am Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2003 18:59 schrieb Jonathan Gardner:
> I'm feeling really stupid about now.
>
> I think I remember seeing a thread about someone trying to launch an
> application from an application. I am running into that problem right
> now.
>
> Coming from a perl world, I never gave a second thought about how to
> do this. Now I am befuddled by the variety of options: system, popen,
> spawn, and so much more.
>
> I've tried a few of the above with varying amounts of success. I think
> the best was something like:
>
> os.system("python theapp.py &")
>
> although I know that this isn't quite right. Anyone have a favorite
> idiom they like to use from PyQt?

In the last eric snapshot I am using QProcess and its methods. Works fine 
for me and is easy to use.

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Re: [PyKDE] Launching an App from PyQt

2003-01-16 Thread Jens Nie
Am Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2003 18:59 schrieb Jonathan Gardner:
> I'm feeling really stupid about now.
>
> I think I remember seeing a thread about someone trying to launch an
> application from an application. I am running into that problem right now.
>
> Coming from a perl world, I never gave a second thought about how to do
> this. Now I am befuddled by the variety of options: system, popen, spawn,
> and so much more.
>
> I've tried a few of the above with varying amounts of success. I think the
> best was something like:
>
> os.system("python theapp.py &")
>
> although I know that this isn't quite right. Anyone have a favorite idiom
> they like to use from PyQt?

Well. There are several ways to do this in python. I don't think this is PyQt 
specific..

The quick and dirty way will be:

import commands

status, output = command.getstatusoutput('Application')
if status:
# some error handling of course

this will launch your Application in a subshell. It is only available in Unix 
and alikes


the more elegant and portable way is to use the exec* or spawn* methods. This 
is the direct way.

os.spawnl(os.P_NOWAIT, 'pathtoyourApplication', 'pathtoyourApplication', 
'/dev/null')

using os.P_NOWAIT you can prevent your calling application to wait for the 
called Application to finish. use os.P_WAIT to wait for it. notice the 
/dev/null as the last parameter. As in C the function call has to be 
terminated. I think this is the tricky thing using these methods. The exec* 
methods work just the same way, and besides the /dev/null statement just as 
in C.

to process output you can use the os.popen* calls. They return filehandles to 
your application, so you can feed it and read from it.

Hope that helped

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Re: [PyKDE] pyqt-debian

2003-01-16 Thread Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 02:26:27PM -0300, ranto wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the long and for the short story. i will try the 
> testing/unstable package as soon as i get home. By the way, the deb 
> source in your debian?s personal page seemed to be (IGN)ignored? 
> instead of (HIT) as the rest of the sources do when i apt-get update. 
> Am i doing something wrong or what?

The [IGN]ored one is the non-existent "Release" file. The "Packages" file
is there, and you're downloading it. I should fix that, but I just have
no time to (i.e.: I'm too lazy to do it).

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jim Bublitz
On 16-Jan-03 Jonathan Gardner wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote:

>> I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a
>> front end
>> needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.

> Jim,
 
> Thanks for the offer.

Please note that it's Phil's offer -- I'm not that generous :)
(Actually I don't have any web space to offer)

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[PyKDE] Launching an App from PyQt

2003-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gardner
I'm feeling really stupid about now.

I think I remember seeing a thread about someone trying to launch an 
application from an application. I am running into that problem right now.

Coming from a perl world, I never gave a second thought about how to do this. 
Now I am befuddled by the variety of options: system, popen, spawn, and so 
much more.

I've tried a few of the above with varying amounts of success. I think the 
best was something like:

os.system("python theapp.py &")

although I know that this isn't quite right. Anyone have a favorite idiom they 
like to use from PyQt?

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Phil Thompson
On Thursday 16 January 2003 5:30 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 09:12, Phil Thompson wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 January 2003 4:42 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
> > > On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote:
> > > > I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front
> > > > end needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.
> > >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the offer.
> >
> > Errm, me or Jim?
>
> Sorry Phil, I meant you. Oops..
>
> > > Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and
> > > mod_perl with a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if
> > > I was able to have a normal user account on the system?
> >
> > My server (rather my ISP's server) is PHP and MySQL. You couldn't have an
> > account. I'd have to vet the code before installing it. However, I
> > wouldn't have a problem maintaining the code once the first version was
> > up.
>
> Is there any advantage to using your (or your ISP's) servers over
> SourceForge? Wouldn't you rather have SourceForge foot the bill? It sounds
> like the setup is almost exactly the same.

No advantage at all - but it's there as an option.

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Thursday 16 January 2003 09:12, Phil Thompson wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 4:42 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote:
> > > I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end
> > > needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Thanks for the offer.
>
> Errm, me or Jim?
>

Sorry Phil, I meant you. Oops..

> > Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and mod_perl
> > with a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if I was able
> > to have a normal user account on the system?
>
> My server (rather my ISP's server) is PHP and MySQL. You couldn't have an
> account. I'd have to vet the code before installing it. However, I wouldn't
> have a problem maintaining the code once the first version was up.
>

Is there any advantage to using your (or your ISP's) servers over SourceForge? 
Wouldn't you rather have SourceForge foot the bill? It sounds like the setup 
is almost exactly the same.

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Re: [PyKDE] pyqt-debian

2003-01-16 Thread ranto

> The short story:
> 
>   Please, add a "sarge" (or "testing") repository to your sources.list
>   and download PyQt this way:
> 
> apt-get install python-qt3/testing
> 
>   or
> 
> apt-get install python-qt3/sarge
> 
> It's PyQt 3.4, but it will work in the mean time. It's not very
> likely that Qt3/G++3.2 comes into the distro before next week, so I'll
> probably upload the sip&PyQt 3.5 packages to my personal repository
[1].
> If you really need the latest PyQt, please, notice me about it and 
I'll
> turn that 'probably' to a 'right now' (this, of course, goes the same 
to
> the other Debian users, please bear with me).
> 
>   [1] more info at http://people.debian.org/~rcardenes
> 

Thanks for the long and for the short story. i will try the 
testing/unstable package as soon as i get home. By the way, the deb 
source in your debianĀ“s personal page seemed to be (IGN)ignored? 
instead of (HIT) as the rest of the sources do when i apt-get update. 
Am i doing something wrong or what?

Again, thanks for your time.
Regards, Rafael


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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Phil Thompson
On Thursday 16 January 2003 4:42 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote:
> > I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end
> > needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.
>
> Jim,
>
> Thanks for the offer.

Errm, me or Jim?

> Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and mod_perl
> with a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if I was able
> to have a normal user account on the system?

My server (rather my ISP's server) is PHP and MySQL. You couldn't have an 
account. I'd have to vet the code before installing it. However, I wouldn't 
have a problem maintaining the code once the first version was up.

Phil

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jim Bublitz
On 16-Jan-03 Jonathan Gardner wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:27, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
>> Jonathan and Jim are the project managers there.

>> Jonathan, Jim, what do you think about a contribution package
>> section.
 
> I think it is a great idea. I think it is necessary for
> wide-spread acceptance  of PyQt and PyKDE. Our goal is world
> domination, isn't it? ;-)

My goal is to just get the next release done (I don't know if that
deserves a :) or :( )

I thought this was great software back when it was < 1.0, and a lot
of stuff (including Phil's v 4.0 and Detlev's 'eric') is going to
make it even better. I'd like to see sip, PyQt and PyKDE get wider
use and recognition.

I probably average privately an inquiry per month from people who
want to build on top of PyQt/PyKDE, but a lot of that is still
proprietary stuff. That's in addition to stuff like Gerard's
package and some other things on sf that occasionally get mentioned
here.
 

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jim Bublitz
On 16-Jan-03 Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 14:13, Michael Lauer wrote:
>> Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek:
>> > What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if
>> > it is possible to place some little programs I happened to
>> > write on that page. By now, I do not have my own page and
>> > I wouldn't like to create one. So it would be nice if
>> > there was a section of programs with links and/or
>> > direct downloads.

>> Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt
>> widgets which I could publish and would be interested in
>> seeing other ones.

>> > One of the programs I mean is outline.py. It started as a port
>> > of the outline example of Qt, but is under development for
>> > some time now and has evolved.It keeps a tree of remarks
>> > in an XML file, I use it as todolist/notepad/knowledge
>> > base/organizer.

>> Sounds interesting.

>> Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
 
> Do possibly mean
> http://sourceforge.net/project/admin/?group_id=61057
 
> Jonathan and Jim are the project managers there.
 
> Jonathan, Jim, what do you think about a contribution package
> section. If somebody want to upload something, just post the
> details in this listfile name: 
> package name:
> package version:
> release notes:
> changelog (opt.):
 
> and upload to anonymous@ftp://upload.sourceforge.net
 
> Hopefully some project member picks it up quickly enough, and
> publish the thing in download section.
> 
> Comments?

I think it's a great idea. I'd also be interested in seeing any
small programs/snippets that people write to test out PyQt or PyKDE
classes - I'd be happy to include PyKDE related stuff (like
example/demo stuff) in the PyKDE distribution.

The only other thing I'd suggest is either some review of scripts
to try and make sure they're not mailicious, or else a
notice/disclaimer (added to the download?) that advises people to
do that.

I'm only an "honorary" admin on the sf/pykde site - if the programs
to be posted are small, it might be easier to mail them (tar.gz or
zip) to the actual maintainers rather than trying to co-ordinate an
sf upload.

Jim

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote:
>
> I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end
> needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.
>

Jim,

Thanks for the offer.

Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and mod_perl with 
a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if I was able to have 
a normal user account on the system?

I think it is a great idea to have something like this hosted outside of 
SourceForge because we can have so much control over it. The only worry is 
that if it gets terribly busy, will it impose on your ISP bill? I always like 
using SourceForge for bandwidth munching things because the bill ends up in 
VA's lap.

Anyway, I have a few people who are willing to do this using PHP on the 
SourceForge site, so if there is any reason you would be uncomfortable doing 
this, don't be afraid to let me know.

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RE: [PyKDE] Re: PyKDE package: errors

2003-01-16 Thread Jim Bublitz
On 15-Jan-03 Philip Webb wrote:
> I recently (030110) downloaded Sip 3.5 , PyQt 3.5 & PyKDE 3.3.2 .
> I am using Mandrake Linux 9.0rc1 , which generally works
> correctly.
> My machine has a Celeron 466 MHz with RAM 384 MB + swap 384 MB .
> 
> I finally installed it all, but your package needs fine-tuning.
> 
> Sip & PyQt compiled & installed without a problem, but PyQt took 
> c 2 hr :
> you need to mention '-c' there (or more prominently).
> 
> With PyKDE I had to hand-edit build.py to delete 'checkPyQt' (df
> & call)
> & hand-define the 2 variables:
> 
>   pyqt = 'PyQt-3.5'
>   pyQtSipDir = '/root/libs/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.5/sip'

PyKDE-3.3.2 is produced for sip and PyQt 3.3.2, although it will
work with sip and PyQt 3.5.  There is a command line switch (-v) for
setting the value of pyQtSipDir. (build.py -h)
 
> the latter being where I had unpacked PyQt: surely it should
> check ./sip ?
> This needs fixing.

It checks '../' for PyQt-, among other "likely" locations.
The "PyQt-x11-gpl-3.5" location was not a "well-known" location at
the time of release of version 3.3.2. The next release will reflect
changes in nomenclature current at the time of that release. The
present search path is:

["../", "/usr/local/", "/usr/local/src/", "/usr/src/",\
"/usr/share/sip", "/usr/local/share/sip"]

> Also, build took  30 min  & compile  90 min , even using '-c',
> ie  4 hr  altogether for a total of  38 files  installed.
> Is it not possible to provide these files on their own in a
> package?

No - it depends on the sip, PyQt, Qt and KDE versions of the system
you're installing on. There are "unofficial" RPMs at
sourceforge.net/pykde, however it's unlikely that there will be
RPMs for rc1 distribution releases. My only releases are the PyKDE
tarballs.

My only experience with Celerons is compiling PyKDE on a 650MHz
Celeron. Without the '-c' switch it takes over three hours for
PyKDE alone.

> The user has to download  150 MB  source to get  500 KB 
> installed files!

I'm not sure what you mean here -- PyKDE is under 4MB (tar.gz), PyQt
and sip are smaller. The installed files (libs) on the other hand
run somewhere 20MB vicinity (python/site-packages).


Jim

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:27, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
> Jonathan and Jim are the project managers there.
>
> Jonathan, Jim, what do you think about a contribution package section.

I think it is a great idea. I think it is necessary for wide-spread acceptance 
of PyQt and PyKDE. Our goal is world domination, isn't it? ;-)

> If somebody want to upload something, just post the details in this list
> file name:
> package name:
> package version:
> release notes:
> changelog (opt.):
>
> and upload to anonymous@ftp://upload.sourceforge.net
>
> Hopefully some project member picks it up quickly enough, and publish
> the thing in download section.
>
> Comments?
>

Yes, unfortunately, this doesn't work well in practice. Just send the files to 
me, or make them available from some server somewhere so that I can download 
them.

For small software packages, like a widget or an app that you threw together 
that is pretty simple, you won't have to go to great lengths and be so 
serious about it. Just send what you got (or put what you have someplace I 
can get it) and let me know what it does.

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Re: [PyKDE] pyqt-debian

2003-01-16 Thread Phil Thompson
On Thursday 16 January 2003 3:41 pm, Michael Lauer wrote:
> Am Don, 2003-01-16 um 09.01 schrieb Phil Thompson:
> > With SIP v4 there won't be any visible version numbers (there will be
> > internal ones that will trigger an exception if you mix incomatible
> > modules). The names will be sip.so, qt.so, qttable.so etc.
>
> By the way, can you give a *rough* pointer about when v4 will happen?

No. I am in discussion with a number of organisations about possible funding 
for the development which, if I managed to get sufficient contributions, then 
I could make a firm committment. Until then it would be misleading to say 
anything.

Obviously I'd welcome contributions from anybody :)

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Michael Lauer
> Option one is to have some sort of system where one could sign up, post 
> scripts, rate other's scripts, comments on each other's scripts, offer 
> patches, etc..., all hosted on SourceForge. This would be a lot of work, and 
> it needs to be written in PHP. I can't help with this because I don't know 
> PHP, I don't have the time to learn it, nor the time to implement something 
> with it. If anyone knows PHP, or wants to learn it, and has time to do the 
> development, let me know and I'll help get you set up.

Take a look at openzaurus.org, which is coded in php. Since I'm very
active in this project, I know the guy who did this. Maybe we could
take some of this code?

Mickey.
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Re: [PyKDE] pyqt-debian

2003-01-16 Thread Michael Lauer
Am Don, 2003-01-16 um 09.01 schrieb Phil Thompson:
> With SIP v4 there won't be any visible version numbers (there will be internal 
> ones that will trigger an exception if you mix incomatible modules). The 
> names will be sip.so, qt.so, qttable.so etc.

By the way, can you give a *rough* pointer about when v4 will happen?

Cheers,

Mickey.


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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Hans-Peter Jansen
On Thursday 16 January 2003 14:13, Michael Lauer wrote:
> Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek:
> > What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is
> > possible to place some little programs I happened to write on that page.
> > By now, I do not have my own page and I wouldn't like to create one.
> > So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links and/or
> > direct downloads.
>
> Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets
> which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones.
>
> > One of the programs I mean is outline.py. It started as a port of the
> > outline example of Qt, but is under development for some time now and has
> > evolved.
> > It keeps a tree of remarks in an XML file, I use it as
> > todolist/notepad/knowledge base/organizer.
>
> Sounds interesting.
>
> Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

Do possibly mean http://sourceforge.net/project/admin/?group_id=61057

Jonathan and Jim are the project managers there.

Jonathan, Jim, what do you think about a contribution package section.
If somebody want to upload something, just post the details in this list
file name: 
package name:
package version:
release notes:
changelog (opt.):

and upload to anonymous@ftp://upload.sourceforge.net

Hopefully some project member picks it up quickly enough, and publish
the thing in download section.

Comments?

Pete

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Phil Thompson
On Thursday 16 January 2003 2:59 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 05:13, Michael Lauer wrote:
> > Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek:
> > > What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is
> > > possible to place some little programs I happened to write on that
> > > page. By now, I do not have my own page and I wouldn't like to create
> > > one. So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links
> > > and/or direct downloads.
> >
> > Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets
> > which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones.
>
> 
>
> > Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
>
> This is really neat. I am in charge of pykde.sf.net, at least the
> administration part. I think it would be great to have this stuff on the
> site. It is no problem at all to put your programs in the downloads
> section.
>
> Here are the options, and what is holding back each one. If someone has
> something they can donate (time or servers) to get one of these going, let
> me know and I'll work with you.
>
> Option one is to have some sort of system where one could sign up, post
> scripts, rate other's scripts, comments on each other's scripts, offer
> patches, etc..., all hosted on SourceForge. This would be a lot of work,
> and it needs to be written in PHP. I can't help with this because I don't
> know PHP, I don't have the time to learn it, nor the time to implement
> something with it. If anyone knows PHP, or wants to learn it, and has time
> to do the development, let me know and I'll help get you set up.
>
> Option two is to host your scripts somewhere else that already is in
> existence, most likely at a python script warehouse, or a Qt or KDE program
> warehouse. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a site that I personally enjoy
> and find useful, so there is no place that I can suggest for this. If
> anyone knows of a good site, let me know.
>
> Option three is to use someone's web server, install mod_perl with apache,
> and get a real solution together, not this PHP stuff that SourceForge
> requires us to use. I would enjoy doing a lot of development work putting
> together an interactive website. The only downside is that we need to find
> someone with a suitable server.
>
> Those are the three long tem solutions I am looking at. The most realistic
> and the best option in my opinion is the first one. However, I myself
> cannot implement it. If anyone else has any other ideas, let me know.
>
> In the meantime, if you want to see your source code on sourceforge, send
> me your code and a brief description of what your software does and why it
> is cool. I'll talk with the current webmaster and see what we can do with
> it.

I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end needs 
to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.

Phil

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Thursday 16 January 2003 05:13, Michael Lauer wrote:
> Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek:
> > What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is
> > possible to place some little programs I happened to write on that page.
> > By now, I do not have my own page and I wouldn't like to create one.
> > So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links and/or
> > direct downloads.
>
> Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets
> which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones.
>

>
> Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

This is really neat. I am in charge of pykde.sf.net, at least the 
administration part. I think it would be great to have this stuff on the 
site. It is no problem at all to put your programs in the downloads section.

Here are the options, and what is holding back each one. If someone has 
something they can donate (time or servers) to get one of these going, let me 
know and I'll work with you.

Option one is to have some sort of system where one could sign up, post 
scripts, rate other's scripts, comments on each other's scripts, offer 
patches, etc..., all hosted on SourceForge. This would be a lot of work, and 
it needs to be written in PHP. I can't help with this because I don't know 
PHP, I don't have the time to learn it, nor the time to implement something 
with it. If anyone knows PHP, or wants to learn it, and has time to do the 
development, let me know and I'll help get you set up.

Option two is to host your scripts somewhere else that already is in 
existence, most likely at a python script warehouse, or a Qt or KDE program 
warehouse. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a site that I personally enjoy 
and find useful, so there is no place that I can suggest for this. If anyone 
knows of a good site, let me know.

Option three is to use someone's web server, install mod_perl with apache, and 
get a real solution together, not this PHP stuff that SourceForge requires us 
to use. I would enjoy doing a lot of development work putting together an 
interactive website. The only downside is that we need to find someone with a 
suitable server. 

Those are the three long tem solutions I am looking at. The most realistic and 
the best option in my opinion is the first one. However, I myself cannot 
implement it. If anyone else has any other ideas, let me know.

In the meantime, if you want to see your source code on sourceforge, send me 
your code and a brief description of what your software does and why it is 
cool. I'll talk with the current webmaster and see what we can do with it.

-- 
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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Michael Lauer
Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek:
> What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is possible to place 
>some 
> little programs I happened to write on that page. By now, I do not have my own page 
>and I 
> wouldn't like to create one.
> So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links and/or direct 
>downloads.

Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets
which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones.

> One of the programs I mean is outline.py. It started as a port of the outline 
>example of 
> Qt, but is under development for some time now and has evolved.
> It keeps a tree of remarks in an XML file, I use it as todolist/notepad/knowledge 
> base/organizer.

Sounds interesting.

Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

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[PyKDE] Re: PyKDE package: errors

2003-01-16 Thread Philip Webb
I recently (030110) downloaded Sip 3.5 , PyQt 3.5 & PyKDE 3.3.2 .
I am using Mandrake Linux 9.0rc1 , which generally works correctly.
My machine has a Celeron 466 MHz with RAM 384 MB + swap 384 MB .

I finally installed it all, but your package needs fine-tuning.

Sip & PyQt compiled & installed without a problem, but PyQt took  c 2 hr :
you need to mention '-c' there (or more prominently).

With PyKDE I had to hand-edit build.py to delete 'checkPyQt' (df & call)
& hand-define the 2 variables:

  pyqt = 'PyQt-3.5'
  pyQtSipDir = '/root/libs/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.5/sip'

the latter being where I had unpacked PyQt: surely it should check ./sip ?
This needs fixing.

Also, build took  30 min  & compile  90 min , even using '-c',
ie  4 hr  altogether for a total of  38 files  installed.
Is it not possible to provide these files on their own in a package?
The user has to download  150 MB  source to get  500 KB  installed files!

I hope this helps you & will help improve the package for other users.

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Re: [PyKDE] pyqt-debian

2003-01-16 Thread Phil Thompson
On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:54 am, Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina wrote:

> WARNING: By policy, all Debian packages containing libs and compiled
>  with G++3.2 will have an additional "c102" in their name until
>the soname of the libs change. So python*-sip* and python*-qt*
>packages (which contains .so.* files) will change their names
>too, and probably won't be back to their all name before sip
>v4 (I suppouse that will be the next soname major change, but
>that's Phil choice, not mine ;)), and I don't know when will it
>happen for PyQt, as the last versions haven't changed their
>soname (all were 1.0.0).

With SIP v4 there won't be any visible version numbers (there will be internal 
ones that will trigger an exception if you mix incomatible modules). The 
names will be sip.so, qt.so, qttable.so etc.

Phil

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