RE: [PyMOL] PyMOL tutorial (moved and slightly updated)
Why do you think pymol cannot be sold? The copyright license does not seem to imply this[1], and such a restriction would render pymol not Open Source. Warren, can you tell us what you think on this? Michael Carly, Yes, in my world, open-source means available to all people and for all purposes, including for sale or resale. I don't have a problem with people placing different terms on parallel or related efforts, but if their code or materials are to be distributed with PyMOL, then their redistribution terms must be compatible with PyMOL's terms, with no exceptions. If not, then the author of the material must be fully responsible for maintenance and distribution. Cheers, Warren -- mailto:war...@delsci.com Warren L. DeLano, Ph.D. Principal Scientist DeLano Scientific LLC Voice (650)-346-1154 Fax (650)-593-4020 -Original Message- From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Michael Banck Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:13 AM To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PyMOL] PyMOL tutorial (moved and slightly updated) On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 09:37:00AM -0700, chuit...@interchange.ubc.ca wrote: In any case, you ask a useful question: I too would like to know what license, if any, is granted by the tutorial's authors. If released under an appropriate license, it could be modified for Linux/Unix/MacOSX users, and used in course material, distributed with PyMOL, etc. I haven't really thought about licenses for releasing the tutorial under, I'm not familiar with the different types of licenses. I would like to see the tutorial treated as the program Having it under the same copyright license as pymol seems like a good idea to me. where you can't sell it or claim you created it. Why do you think pymol cannot be sold? The copyright license does not seem to imply this[1], and such a restriction would render pymol not Open Source. Warren, can you tell us what you think on this? Michael [1] Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and distribute modified versions of this software and its documentation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted [...] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ PyMOL-users mailing list PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users
Re: [PyMOL] PyMOL tutorial (moved and slightly updated)
On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 09:37:00AM -0700, chuit...@interchange.ubc.ca wrote: In any case, you ask a useful question: I too would like to know what license, if any, is granted by the tutorial's authors. If released under an appropriate license, it could be modified for Linux/Unix/MacOSX users, and used in course material, distributed with PyMOL, etc. I haven't really thought about licenses for releasing the tutorial under, I'm not familiar with the different types of licenses. I would like to see the tutorial treated as the program Having it under the same copyright license as pymol seems like a good idea to me. where you can't sell it or claim you created it. Why do you think pymol cannot be sold? The copyright license does not seem to imply this[1], and such a restriction would render pymol not Open Source. Warren, can you tell us what you think on this? Michael [1] Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and distribute modified versions of this software and its documentation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted [...]
Re: [PyMOL] PyMOL tutorial (moved and slightly updated)
In any case, you ask a useful question: I too would like to know what license, if any, is granted by the tutorial's authors. If released under an appropriate license, it could be modified for Linux/Unix/MacOSX users, and used in course material, distributed with PyMOL, etc. Hello, I haven't really thought about licenses for releasing the tutorial under, I'm not familiar with the different types of licenses. I would like to see the tutorial treated as the program - where you can't sell it or claim you created it. It would be great if it could be modified for Linux/Unix/MacOSX and used in course material, distributed etc. Of course, I want it to mesh with whatever Warren has planned for PyMOL. Any suggestions? Carly
Re: [PyMOL] PyMOL tutorial (moved and slightly updated)
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 05:07:47PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 08:34:17AM -0500, D. Joe Anderson wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:31:04AM -0700, chuit...@interchange.ubc.ca wrote: I have a small tutorial for getting started with PyMOL and I have no idea if people actually use it... Anyway, our server has changed and the webpage has been moved to: http://www.microbiology.ubc.ca/eltis/pymol/ Can you tell me what license this tutorial is under? I guess I would include it in the Debian package if it is compatible with the Debian Free Software Guidelines. Michael, you left out an attribution, making it seem you were quoting me, rather than me quoting Carly. I've restored the attribution above. In any case, you ask a useful question: I too would like to know what license, if any, is granted by the tutorial's authors. If released under an appropriate license, it could be modified for Linux/Unix/MacOSX users, and used in course material, distributed with PyMOL, etc. -- Joe
Re: [PyMOL] PyMOL tutorial (moved and slightly updated)
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:31:04AM -0700, chuit...@interchange.ubc.ca wrote: Hello, I have a small tutorial for getting started with PyMOL and I have no idea if people actually use it... Anyway, our server has changed and the webpage has been moved to: http://www.microbiology.ubc.ca/eltis/pymol/ I've got it bookmarked. Thanks for the tutorial, and for posting the link. -- D. Joe Anderson, Asst. Sci.2252 Molecular Biology Bldg Biochem, Biophys, Mol Bio Iowa State Univ, Ames, IA 50010 How to Report Bugs Effectively http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
Re: [PyMOL] PyMOL tutorial (moved and slightly updated)
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 08:34:17AM -0500, D. Joe Anderson wrote: I have a small tutorial for getting started with PyMOL and I have no idea if people actually use it... Anyway, our server has changed and the webpage has been moved to: http://www.microbiology.ubc.ca/eltis/pymol/ Can you tell me what license this tutorial is under? I guess I would include it in the Debian package if it is compatible with the Debian Free Software Guidelines. Michael
[PyMOL] PyMOL tutorial (moved and slightly updated)
Hello, I have a small tutorial for getting started with PyMOL and I have no idea if people actually use it... Anyway, our server has changed and the webpage has been moved to: http://www.microbiology.ubc.ca/eltis/pymol/ (finally no IP in the domain name!) If you have mirrored this site previously please note that there have been updates and I even corrected a few mistakes! It may be easier to just link to this page instead or the mirror that is (probably?) coming on the Sourceforge page. Any future updates (and it does get updated occasionally as I find stuff) will only appear on this page or those pages that request the updated version from me (so far only Victor). I have been told the new location isn't going to be changed any time soon and there are no annoying pop-ups at its current location. TTYL, Carly
