Re: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library
2011/11/16 Blaine frik...@gmail.com: Does anyone know of a pure python math library? I've been playing around with berp, which is a python3 to haskell translator and compiler, and it works great as long as you don't go crazy with C extensions. It's highly experimental but fun to play around with. The only thing that I really miss is being able to use the math module. I asked the maintainer if it is possible to map into haskell's math library, but in the mean time a pure python math library would fit nicely since it would be compiled along with the rest of the python. I'm looking for log, log10, ceil, and pow mostly for my personal needs. Well, python has a math module too: import math math.log(23) 3.1354942159291497 -- Regards, Benjamin ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library
I think that python's math module (which I use) is a compiled C extension, right? I'm looking for pure python that berp can use. Blaine On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote: 2011/11/16 Blaine frik...@gmail.com: Does anyone know of a pure python math library? I've been playing around with berp, which is a python3 to haskell translator and compiler, and it works great as long as you don't go crazy with C extensions. It's highly experimental but fun to play around with. The only thing that I really miss is being able to use the math module. I asked the maintainer if it is possible to map into haskell's math library, but in the mean time a pure python math library would fit nicely since it would be compiled along with the rest of the python. I'm looking for log, log10, ceil, and pow mostly for my personal needs. Well, python has a math module too: import math math.log(23) 3.1354942159291497 -- Regards, Benjamin ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library
2011/11/16 Blaine frik...@gmail.com: I think that python's math module (which I use) is a compiled C extension, right? I'm looking for pure python that berp can use. I'm not really sure why this is relevant to pypy. -- Regards, Benjamin ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library
Thanks Alex and Benjamin. I'm sorry - you're right it isn't exactly related to pypy. I hope I didn't break any rules. I was hoping that someone else may have come across this because the only time I've needed to port compiled modules to python is when I wanted to use them with pypy. Blaine On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Alex Gaynor alex.gay...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Blaine frik...@gmail.com wrote: I think that python's math module (which I use) is a compiled C extension, right? I'm looking for pure python that berp can use. Blaine On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote: 2011/11/16 Blaine frik...@gmail.com: Does anyone know of a pure python math library? I've been playing around with berp, which is a python3 to haskell translator and compiler, and it works great as long as you don't go crazy with C extensions. It's highly experimental but fun to play around with. The only thing that I really miss is being able to use the math module. I asked the maintainer if it is possible to map into haskell's math library, but in the mean time a pure python math library would fit nicely since it would be compiled along with the rest of the python. I'm looking for log, log10, ceil, and pow mostly for my personal needs. Well, python has a math module too: import math math.log(23) 3.1354942159291497 -- Regards, Benjamin ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev It's a part of the standard library, it's implemented however the Python VM provides it. Alex -- I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire) The people's good is the highest law. -- Cicero ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Blaine frik...@gmail.com wrote: I think that python's math module (which I use) is a compiled C extension, right? I'm looking for pure python that berp can use. Blaine On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote: 2011/11/16 Blaine frik...@gmail.com: Does anyone know of a pure python math library? I've been playing around with berp, which is a python3 to haskell translator and compiler, and it works great as long as you don't go crazy with C extensions. It's highly experimental but fun to play around with. The only thing that I really miss is being able to use the math module. I asked the maintainer if it is possible to map into haskell's math library, but in the mean time a pure python math library would fit nicely since it would be compiled along with the rest of the python. I'm looking for log, log10, ceil, and pow mostly for my personal needs. Well, python has a math module too: import math math.log(23) 3.1354942159291497 -- Regards, Benjamin ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev It's a part of the standard library, it's implemented however the Python VM provides it. Alex -- I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire) The people's good is the highest law. -- Cicero ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library
2011/11/16 Blaine frik...@gmail.com: Thanks Alex and Benjamin. I'm sorry - you're right it isn't exactly related to pypy. I hope I didn't break any rules. I was hoping that someone else may have come across this because the only time I've needed to port compiled modules to python is when I wanted to use them with pypy. Blaine I don't PyPy will be very helpful to you, since it uses the libc math functions. -- Regards, Benjamin ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Blaine frik...@gmail.com wrote: I imagine pypy uses libc math through ctypes, since pypy and ctypes play well together. Thanks for all the tips, I'll probably just wait to see what the maintainer thinks about mapping to haskell's math library. Blaine On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote: 2011/11/16 Blaine frik...@gmail.com: Thanks Alex and Benjamin. I'm sorry - you're right it isn't exactly related to pypy. I hope I didn't break any rules. I was hoping that someone else may have come across this because the only time I've needed to port compiled modules to python is when I wanted to use them with pypy. Blaine I don't PyPy will be very helpful to you, since it uses the libc math functions. -- Regards, Benjamin No, PyPy has an RPython math module which calls libc. Alex -- I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire) The people's good is the highest law. -- Cicero ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library
Oh, neat. I didn't know that. Thank you for the information, I didn't know that was possible. Blaine On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Alex Gaynor alex.gay...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Blaine frik...@gmail.com wrote: I imagine pypy uses libc math through ctypes, since pypy and ctypes play well together. Thanks for all the tips, I'll probably just wait to see what the maintainer thinks about mapping to haskell's math library. Blaine On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote: 2011/11/16 Blaine frik...@gmail.com: Thanks Alex and Benjamin. I'm sorry - you're right it isn't exactly related to pypy. I hope I didn't break any rules. I was hoping that someone else may have come across this because the only time I've needed to port compiled modules to python is when I wanted to use them with pypy. Blaine I don't PyPy will be very helpful to you, since it uses the libc math functions. -- Regards, Benjamin No, PyPy has an RPython math module which calls libc. Alex -- I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire) The people's good is the highest law. -- Cicero ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library
http://en.literateprograms.org/Logarithm_Function_(Python) ceil seems pretty easy to implement... pow? Integer only? --C From: Blaine frik...@gmail.com To: pypy-dev@python.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:21 AM Subject: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library Does anyone know of a pure python math library? I've been playing around with berp, which is a python3 to haskell translator and compiler, and it works great as long as you don't go crazy with C extensions. It's highly experimental but fun to play around with. The only thing that I really miss is being able to use the math module. I asked the maintainer if it is possible to map into haskell's math library, but in the mean time a pure python math library would fit nicely since it would be compiled along with the rest of the python. I'm looking for log, log10, ceil, and pow mostly for my personal needs. It's funny now that things like pypy and berp exist. I find myself trying to locate pure python routines (like DFT) that would have no reason to exist with cpython, but make lots of sense with pypy. Anyway, just wondering if anyone had heard of such a thing. How do you even implement log? Thanks, Blaine ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library
Thanks Charlie, that's really helpful! Yeah ceil is easy. Pow can be done if log() and exp() are available, and exp() shouldn't be too hard I think. def pow(x,y): return exp(y*log(x)) Blaine On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Charlie Hui cj...@yahoo.com wrote: http://en.literateprograms.org/Logarithm_Function_(Python) ceil seems pretty easy to implement... pow? Integer only? --C -- *From:* Blaine frik...@gmail.com *To:* pypy-dev@python.org *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:21 AM *Subject:* [pypy-dev] Pure Python Math Library Does anyone know of a pure python math library? I've been playing around with berp https://github.com/bjpop/berp/wiki, which is a python3 to haskell translator and compiler, and it works great as long as you don't go crazy with C extensions. It's highly experimental but fun to play around with. The only thing that I really miss is being able to use the math module. I asked the maintainer if it is possible to map into haskell's math library, but in the mean time a pure python math library would fit nicely since it would be compiled along with the rest of the python. I'm looking for log, log10, ceil, and pow mostly for my personal needs. It's funny now that things like pypy and berp exist. I find myself trying to locate pure python routines (like DFT) that would have no reason to exist with cpython, but make lots of sense with pypy. Anyway, just wondering if anyone had heard of such a thing. How do you even implement log? Thanks, Blaine ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
