Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt
Done ;) I'm really glad you like it and hope it will prove to be really useful! (And if you felt like it, maybe add a nice comment on amazon:-) -- Gustavo A. Díaz GDNet Projects www.gdnet.com.ar ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt
Hi!! Finally i was available to buy this book vía Amazon.com. Today arrived to me... and i must say it is a great Book... very well explained, very complete. And i wanted something like this, even when my language is spanish and i could speak and read/translate in english, i always found books very difficult to read... but this is great. Thanks!! Cheers. -- Gustavo A. Díaz GDNet Projects www.gdnet.com.ar ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
On 2007-10-26, Jim Bublitz wrote: On Thursday 25 October 2007 18:20, David Boddie wrote: Note: As a reviewer, I received a copy free of charge, but I would have bought a copy anyway. I had to squeeze my reviewing duties in between work and real life, so I didn't really have the time to enjoy the book the first time around. :-) Heh - when I was teaching, I'd get a free copy and *paid* to review textbooks. Mostly on hardware, but one of my favorites was a text on BASIC for the PDP-11 (in the late 1980s - it was obvious PCs would dominate by then), with about half the book devoted to simulating logic gates in code. I was surprised the check cleared for that review. Publishers will pay reviewers a token sum... but post-Enron for non-US citizens, this involves tedious form filling and accounting for how many TV cat snack dinners they've had etc. I'll probably pick up a copy just because there are some things in Qt4 I still haven't found time to get on top of, and some bad habits I should probably break. You will certainly find some topics that aren't covered in the C++/Qt book:-) -- Mark Summerfield, Qtrac Ltd., www.qtrac.eu ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
On 2007-10-24, Gustavo A. Díaz wrote: A shame that I can't buy here in Argentina :( And the cost for me is to much to buy it in Amazon for example (including the international delivery)... Can't you order it through a local bookseller? Or direct from the publisher? You don't have to buy it through Amazon---I only mention Amazon on the book's homepage because it is so well known. Naturally, I think the cost of the book---even with shipping---will pay back in terms of time saved when writing PyQt applications:-) 2007/10/23, Mark Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am delighted to announce that Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt: The Definitive Guide to PyQt Programming has now been published in the US. The book is a hardback, 648 pages, ISBN 0132354187. The foreword was written by Phil Thompson (creator of PyQt), who was also one of the book's five technical reviewers. For a brief overview of the book and the table of contents, etc., see http://www.qtrac.eu/pyqtbook.html This web page also has links to places that sell the book, and has the full source code for the examples (and model answers to almost every exercise) available for downloading. The book covers PyQt4 (it has no coverage of PyQt3), and is best used with Python 2.5 and PyQt 4.2 or better, on Windows, Mac OS X, or an X11-based Unix or Linux. No prior knowledge of GUI programming is assumed, so don't worry if you've only ever done web programming:-) Since this is the only book that covers PyQt4 it is automatically the best---but I have not been complacent, and have worked extremely hard to make the book as accessible, useful, enjoyable, and interesting as possible. (Note for Safari readers: The printed version of the book uses the PDF I supplied as is, with fonts and typesetting exactly as I wanted them, whereas the Safari online edition was retypeset by the publisher.) -- Mark Summerfield, Qtrac Ltd., www.qtrac.eu ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt -- Mark Summerfield, Qtrac Ltd., www.qtrac.eu ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
Le mercredi 24 octobre 2007, Mark Summerfield a écrit : On 2007-10-24, alteo_gange wrote: Why electronic book is as expensive as paper book? http://safari.awprofessional.com/9780132354189 I have no idea how the publisher comes up with the prices! But if there is little or no difference, I hope you buy the paper version because it uses the PDF I supplied as is, with the fonts and typesetting as I wanted them, whereas the publisher retypeset the online version. But with online access, we have choice: How do I access my Rough Cuts title online? If you selected Online Access, you can read your Rough Cuts title in HTML on Safari Books Online, download the entire title in PDF format, or do both. https://ssl.safaribooksonline.com/tryitfree http://safari.awprofessional.com/9780132354189 ? ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
Le mercredi 24 octobre 2007, Arne Babenhauserheide a écrit : I had thought about buying the electronic book a good time ago, but I didn't buy, because there was no get the printed version cheaper if you buy the electronic version beforehand option. No chance I'd buy both under these conditions. I agree with you. A reduction of $2.5 on $70... Maybe you could ask your publisher kindly to become a bit more realistic, so people begin to get accomodated to the electronic sales. Maybe. Even though I'd have really liked helping in beta-reading the book (I became accustomed to always doing a bug-search on any book I read - even on fiction :) ). You should work as publisher. ;) -- alteo_gange ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
On 25.10.07 13:38:15, alteo_gange wrote: Le jeudi 25 octobre 2007, Gustavo A. Díaz a écrit : A shame that I can't buy here in Argentina :( And the cost for me is to much to buy it in Amazon for example (including the international delivery)... It's a big problem. I live in France. With amazon.fr : 54.47 euros = 77.412764 dollars In Amazon Germany its even 63.3 euros, which makes about 90 us$, thats almost double the normal price of the book as shipped in the US. I could find it quite a bit cheaper at libri.de, its 42,74 euro there, which is still more than 10 dollar more than the original price from prentice hall. If I buy directly from prentice hall, I'd pay 67$ including shipping, AFAICS I sonder wether its such a special area of interest that those shops have to lift the price to make any profit from it or wether they're just insane. Andreas PS: Mark, I know you can't do anything about, just wanted to -- Are you a turtle? ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
On 2007-10-25, Andreas Pakulat wrote: On 25.10.07 13:38:15, alteo_gange wrote: Le jeudi 25 octobre 2007, Gustavo A. Díaz a écrit : A shame that I can't buy here in Argentina :( And the cost for me is to much to buy it in Amazon for example (including the international delivery)... It's a big problem. I live in France. With amazon.fr : 54.47 euros = 77.412764 dollars In Amazon Germany its even 63.3 euros, which makes about 90 us$, thats almost double the normal price of the book as shipped in the US. I could find it quite a bit cheaper at libri.de, its 42,74 euro there, which is still more than 10 dollar more than the original price from prentice hall. If I buy directly from prentice hall, I'd pay 67$ including shipping, AFAICS I sonder wether its such a special area of interest that those shops have to lift the price to make any profit from it or wether they're just insane. Andreas PS: Mark, I know you can't do anything about, just wanted to I can understand your frustration. I live in the UK and since the US dollar lost so much value earlier this year it sometimes seems like it would be cheaper for me to buy books from the US because UK prices don't seem to have dropped proportionally. Of course, I don't have any control over the pricing, and this isn't just about my particular book---my guess is that outside the US booksellers sell for whatever they think the market will bear. Despite this, I still buy technical books because I (usually:-) enjoy reading them, and they often pay back in terms of time saved. -- Mark Summerfield, Qtrac Ltd., www.qtrac.eu ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
On 25.10.07 13:33:54, Mark Summerfield wrote: On 2007-10-25, Andreas Pakulat wrote: On 25.10.07 13:38:15, alteo_gange wrote: Le jeudi 25 octobre 2007, Gustavo A. Díaz a écrit : A shame that I can't buy here in Argentina :( And the cost for me is to much to buy it in Amazon for example (including the international delivery)... It's a big problem. I live in France. With amazon.fr : 54.47 euros = 77.412764 dollars In Amazon Germany its even 63.3 euros, which makes about 90 us$, thats almost double the normal price of the book as shipped in the US. I could find it quite a bit cheaper at libri.de, its 42,74 euro there, which is still more than 10 dollar more than the original price from prentice hall. If I buy directly from prentice hall, I'd pay 67$ including shipping, AFAICS I sonder wether its such a special area of interest that those shops have to lift the price to make any profit from it or wether they're just insane. Andreas PS: Mark, I know you can't do anything about, just wanted to I can understand your frustration. Not really frustration, more astonishment that they get away with it :) Of course, I don't have any control over the pricing, and this isn't just about my particular book---my guess is that outside the US booksellers sell for whatever they think the market will bear. Yeah, US citizens would file a lawsuit if they'd see this happening to them. In good old Europe people just take it as is. Despite this, I still buy technical books because I (usually:-) enjoy reading them, and they often pay back in terms of time saved. No doubt, I'd have a shelf full of technical books (and only 3 of them read), if I'd just have the money ;) Andreas -- Don't you wish you had more energy... or less ambition? ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
On Thu Oct 25 12:56:25 BST 2007, Andreas Pakulat wrote: In Amazon Germany its even 63.3 euros, which makes about 90 us$, thats almost double the normal price of the book as shipped in the US. I could find it quite a bit cheaper at libri.de, its 42,74 euro there, which is still more than 10 dollar more than the original price from prentice hall. If I buy directly from prentice hall, I'd pay 67$ including shipping, AFAICS I thought I'd see if I could find a lower price in the Euro zone, or a price outside that would correspond to a lower price. I used kelkoo.co.uk first, then tried their service in other regions. Here's what I found: United Kingdom: 23.75 GBP (~34 EUR) http://books.theregister.co.uk/catalog/browse.asp?ref=863830 Apparently, shipping would be free if the price was over 25 GBP. :-( Otherwise, it appears that delivery to Europe is 7.95 GBP (~11 EUR)! (http://books.theregister.co.uk/info/payment_delivery.asp) Norway: 297 NOK (~38 EUR) http://www.capris.no/product.aspx?isbn=0132354187 Shipping appears to be free (within Norway, I suppose), but that may depend on my interpretation of the word fraktfritt! (http://www.capris.no/customerservice.aspx) The first price shouldn't include any tax. I'm not certain what the situation is with tax on books in Norway, so I don't know if the price is inclusive of tax or not. David -- David Boddie Lead Technical Writer, Trolltech ASA ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
On Thursday 25 October 2007 10:19, David Boddie wrote: On Thu Oct 25 12:56:25 BST 2007, Andreas Pakulat wrote: In Amazon Germany its even 63.3 euros, which makes about 90 us$, thats almost double the normal price of the book as shipped in the US. I could find it quite a bit cheaper at libri.de, its 42,74 euro there, which is still more than 10 dollar more than the original price from prentice hall. If I buy directly from prentice hall, I'd pay 67$ including shipping, AFAICS I thought I'd see if I could find a lower price in the Euro zone, or a price outside that would correspond to a lower price. I used kelkoo.co.uk first, then tried their service in other regions. Here's what I found: United Kingdom: 23.75 GBP (~34 EUR) http://books.theregister.co.uk/catalog/browse.asp?ref=863830 Apparently, shipping would be free if the price was over 25 GBP. :-( Otherwise, it appears that delivery to Europe is 7.95 GBP (~11 EUR)! (http://books.theregister.co.uk/info/payment_delivery.asp) Norway: 297 NOK (~38 EUR) http://www.capris.no/product.aspx?isbn=0132354187 Shipping appears to be free (within Norway, I suppose), but that may depend on my interpretation of the word fraktfritt! (http://www.capris.no/customerservice.aspx) The first price shouldn't include any tax. I'm not certain what the situation is with tax on books in Norway, so I don't know if the price is inclusive of tax or not. I think it makes sense to look around for the best price, but I guess I don't understand the complaining about the price. I've got a copy of Stroustrup's C++ Programming Language that cost me $65 probably 5 years ago or more. I don't use it much, but the binding is falling apart, and it's not even a language I like. And considering what my daughter pays for college textbooks (actually what I pay for her books), Mark's book seems pretty reasonably priced - this isn't going to make the bestseller lists (no reflection on Mark - there just aren't that many PyQt users, although I've heard the plot is weak too), or even sell as many copies as the average college text. Considering we get free software that actually works and free, fast online support from the author of the software and the author of the book and the lead tech writer at TrollTech plus the other really knowledgeable people on this list, it doesn't seem to me that the price is that bad when you take all that into account. I can sympathize with people who have a hard time coming up that amount of money - I've been there. But then again, esp considering the Windows users who fork out a lot of money to Microsoft for software with less quality and support (even if it came 'free' with your computer) - I guess I don't think it's that bad to send less money than the price of Windows to Mark and someone willing to publish him. He can probably make better use of the money than Bill Gates. (I'd say less than Linux too, but I've been buying distros at CheapBytes, and most of you probably download). Divide the cost of the book by 4 for Qt, PyQt, Python and the book itself, and the price doesn't look too bad at all. Just my 2 cents - (and if I post enough of these you can cash them in and buy the book - but do it before the dollar falls even more). Now I have to go remove the cat from the microwave ... Jim ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
On Fri Oct 26 01:45:22 BST 2007, Jim Bublitz wrote: I think it makes sense to look around for the best price, but I guess I don't understand the complaining about the price. Yes, I agree. I just wanted to show that there are good deals to be found if you want (or need) to shop around. I found it quite amusing that one of the best deals was from a bookseller in one of the world's most expensive countries. :-) I've got a copy of Stroustrup's C++ Programming Language that cost me $65 probably 5 years ago or more. I don't use it much, but the binding is falling apart, and it's not even a language I like. And considering what my daughter pays for college textbooks (actually what I pay for her books), Mark's book seems pretty reasonably priced - this isn't going to make the bestseller lists (no reflection on Mark - there just aren't that many PyQt users, although I've heard the plot is weak too), But I bet you didn't expect that plot twist in the final chapter! ;-) or even sell as many copies as the average college text. Maybe not. However, even as an experienced Python programmer, I found the introduction to Python worth reading - and I was very sceptical about the need to include it in the book at all. (Apparently, publishers believe that books about Python need to tell the reader how to use the language no matter what level they're aimed at!) Considering we get free software that actually works and free, fast online support from the author of the software and the author of the book and the lead tech writer at TrollTech plus the other really knowledgeable people on this list, it doesn't seem to me that the price is that bad when you take all that into account. Actually, I'm billing you for the time taken to write this message. ;-) Seriously, at over 550 pages, I think the book is well worth the retail price. For a book aimed at GUI programming, it covers a wide range of topics, and it deals with many of the fundamental concepts and techniques you need to know when using PyQt4. In addition, the appendix on installing PyQt looks like it addresses the usual questions people have, and I expect it was quite distracting and time-consuming to write. Note: As a reviewer, I received a copy free of charge, but I would have bought a copy anyway. I had to squeeze my reviewing duties in between work and real life, so I didn't really have the time to enjoy the book the first time around. :-) David ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
On Thursday 25 October 2007 18:20, David Boddie wrote: Note: As a reviewer, I received a copy free of charge, but I would have bought a copy anyway. I had to squeeze my reviewing duties in between work and real life, so I didn't really have the time to enjoy the book the first time around. :-) Heh - when I was teaching, I'd get a free copy and *paid* to review textbooks. Mostly on hardware, but one of my favorites was a text on BASIC for the PDP-11 (in the late 1980s - it was obvious PCs would dominate by then), with about half the book devoted to simulating logic gates in code. I was surprised the check cleared for that review. I'll probably pick up a copy just because there are some things in Qt4 I still haven't found time to get on top of, and some bad habits I should probably break. Jim ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
Why electronic book is as expensive as paper book? http://safari.awprofessional.com/9780132354189 Le mardi 23 octobre 2007, pyprog a écrit : Excuse in advance for my bad english. I forgive you. ;-) -- alteo_gange ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
On 2007-10-24, alteo_gange wrote: Why electronic book is as expensive as paper book? http://safari.awprofessional.com/9780132354189 I have no idea how the publisher comes up with the prices! But if there is little or no difference, I hope you buy the paper version because it uses the PDF I supplied as is, with the fonts and typesetting as I wanted them, whereas the publisher retypeset the online version. Le mardi 23 octobre 2007, pyprog a écrit : Excuse in advance for my bad english. I forgive you. ;-) Thanks:-) -- Mark Summerfield, Qtrac Ltd., www.qtrac.eu ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
I had thought about buying the electronic book a good time ago, but I didn't buy, because there was no get the printed version cheaper if you buy the electronic version beforehand option. Maybe you could ask your publisher kindly to become a bit more realistic, so people begin to get accomodated to the electronic sales. The sad thing is: -- Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt: The Definitive Guide to PyQt Programming - Retail Price: USD $49.99 RCBoth Print Book and Online Access Bundle - USD $67.48 RCOnline Online Access Only - USD $34.99 RCPrint Print Book Only - USD $34.99 - http://safari.informit.com/9780132354189#purchaseroughcuts -- No chance I'd buy both under these conditions. Even though I'd have really liked helping in beta-reading the book (I became accustomed to always doing a bug-search on any book I read - even on fiction :) ). Best wishes, Arne Am Mittwoch, 24 de Oktober de 2007 15:35:50 schrieb Mark Summerfield: On 2007-10-24, alteo_gange wrote: Why electronic book is as expensive as paper book? http://safari.awprofessional.com/9780132354189 I have no idea how the publisher comes up with the prices! But if there is little or no difference, I hope you buy the paper version because it uses the PDF I supplied as is, with the fonts and typesetting as I wanted them, whereas the publisher retypeset the online version. Le mardi 23 octobre 2007, pyprog a écrit : Excuse in advance for my bad english. I forgive you. ;-) Thanks:-) -- Unpolitisch sein Heißt politisch sein Ohne es zu merken. - Arne Babenhauserheide ( http://draketo.de ) -- Weblog: http://blog.draketo.de -- Mein öffentlicher Schlüssel (PGP/GnuPG): http://draketo.de/inhalt/ich/pubkey.txt signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
A shame that I can't buy here in Argentina :( And the cost for me is to much to buy it in Amazon for example (including the international delivery)... 2007/10/23, Mark Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am delighted to announce that Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt: The Definitive Guide to PyQt Programming has now been published in the US. The book is a hardback, 648 pages, ISBN 0132354187. The foreword was written by Phil Thompson (creator of PyQt), who was also one of the book's five technical reviewers. For a brief overview of the book and the table of contents, etc., see http://www.qtrac.eu/pyqtbook.html This web page also has links to places that sell the book, and has the full source code for the examples (and model answers to almost every exercise) available for downloading. The book covers PyQt4 (it has no coverage of PyQt3), and is best used with Python 2.5 and PyQt 4.2 or better, on Windows, Mac OS X, or an X11-based Unix or Linux. No prior knowledge of GUI programming is assumed, so don't worry if you've only ever done web programming:-) Since this is the only book that covers PyQt4 it is automatically the best---but I have not been complacent, and have worked extremely hard to make the book as accessible, useful, enjoyable, and interesting as possible. (Note for Safari readers: The printed version of the book uses the PDF I supplied as is, with fonts and typesetting exactly as I wanted them, whereas the Safari online edition was retypeset by the publisher.) -- Mark Summerfield, Qtrac Ltd., www.qtrac.eu ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt -- Gustavo A. Díaz GDNet Projects www.gdnet.com.ar ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
I recommend this book to anyone that wants to learn PyQt, it is a excellent book with many real world examples with working code and really new stuff (it even use import from future in python). Regards, Miguel Angel. Mark Summerfield escribió: Hi, I am delighted to announce that Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt: The Definitive Guide to PyQt Programming has now been published in the US. The book is a hardback, 648 pages, ISBN 0132354187. The foreword was written by Phil Thompson (creator of PyQt), who was also one of the book's five technical reviewers. For a brief overview of the book and the table of contents, etc., see http://www.qtrac.eu/pyqtbook.html This web page also has links to places that sell the book, and has the full source code for the examples (and model answers to almost every exercise) available for downloading. The book covers PyQt4 (it has no coverage of PyQt3), and is best used with Python 2.5 and PyQt 4.2 or better, on Windows, Mac OS X, or an X11-based Unix or Linux. No prior knowledge of GUI programming is assumed, so don't worry if you've only ever done web programming:-) Since this is the only book that covers PyQt4 it is automatically the best---but I have not been complacent, and have worked extremely hard to make the book as accessible, useful, enjoyable, and interesting as possible. (Note for Safari readers: The printed version of the book uses the PDF I supplied as is, with fonts and typesetting exactly as I wanted them, whereas the Safari online edition was retypeset by the publisher.) ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
Re: [PyQt] PyQt book Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt now available
Excuse in advance for my bad english. Thank you very much Mark for your book . I'm going to command it as soon as possible (but it seems to me your book will be accessible in France only at the end of november). a+ ;) -- Venez faire un tour ici : http://ekd.tolosano.info http://monsitt.irruption.net http://irruption.net/progdudim ___ PyQt mailing listPyQt@riverbankcomputing.com http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/pyqt
