[ python-Bugs-1157576 ] pickle errors

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1157576, was opened at 2005-03-05 23:31
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Category: Python Library
>Group: Not a Bug
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Invalid
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: pickle errors

Initial Comment:
pickle is giving me an error while I'm trying to
serialize a dictionary.
Here is the dictionary:
>>> a
{' ': (0, 2), '(': (858, 10), ',': (480, 9), '0': (327,
9), '4': (1393, 11), '8': (1396, 11), '@': (3496, 13),
'D': (212, 8), 'H': (1749, 12), 'L': (328, 9), 'P':
(344, 9), 'T': (215, 8), 'X': (4041, 12), '\': (859,
10), 'd': (16, 5), 'h': (61, 6), 'l': (17, 5), 'p':
(19, 6), 't': (5, 4), 'x': (83, 7), '#': (2632, 12),
"'": (330, 9), '+': (2633, 12), '/': (160, 8), '3':
(697, 10), '7': (2796, 12), '?': (2634, 12), 'C': (175,
8), 'G': (659, 10), 'K': (5571, 13), 'O': (173, 8),
'S': (241, 8), 'W': (662, 10), '[': (144, 9), 'c': (8,
5), 'g': (127, 7), 'k': (161, 8), 'o': (9, 4), 's':
(22, 5), 'w': (104, 7), '\n': (14, 5), '"': (162, 8),
'.': (26, 6), '2': (219, 9), '6': (1399, 11), ':':
(253, 8), 'B': (108, 8), 'F': (426, 9), 'J': (3497,
13), 'N': (146, 9), 'R': (326, 9), 'V': (875, 11), 'Z':
(8080, 13), 'b': (105, 7), 'f': (42, 6), '\xe9': (5570,
13), 'j': (8081, 13), 'n': (27, 5), 'r': (23, 5), 'v':
(37, 7), 'z': (663, 10), '~': (2635, 12), '\t': (2021,
11), '!': (1397, 11), '%': (2784, 12), ')': (1008, 10),
'-': (55, 7), '1': (1009, 10), '5': (4046, 12), '9':
(2797, 12), '=': (15, 5), 'A': (428, 9), 'E': (147, 9),
'I': (481, 9), 'M': (427, 9), 'Q': (436, 10), 'U':
(345, 9), 'Y': (2022, 11), ']': (145, 9), 'a': (29, 5),
'e': (12, 4), 'i': (28, 5), 'm': (62, 6), 'q': (4047,
12), 'u': (12, 5), 'y': (121, 7)}
Here is the series of commands I issue, resulting in an
error:

>>> afile = open("afile", "wb")
>>> p=pickle.Pickler(afile)
>>> p.save(a)
>>> afile.close()
>>> afile = open("afile", "rb")
>>> p=pickle.Unpickler(afile)
>>> a2 = p.load()
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
a2 = p.load()
  File "H:\Python24\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load
dispatch[key](self)
  File "H:\Python24\lib\pickle.py", line 894, in load_eof
raise EOFError
EOFError

Am I doing something wrong or is this pickle's fault?

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>Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2005-03-06 01:41

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No problem -- thanks for the followup!  I'll close this now.

If you ever want to subclass Pickler, then studying the 
source for save() may be helpful.  Otherwise it's best avoided.

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Comment By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Date: 2005-03-06 00:57

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Oh, silly me. I should've noticed something was strange when
cPickle didn't have a save method. I don't know, I must've
stumbled into it and thought it was the right one. Thanks
for your help.

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Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2005-03-06 00:04

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I'm confused by why you're using the Pickler.save() method.  
That's an internal method, not even documented.  If you use 
the documented Pickler.dump() method instead, this should 
work fine with pickle.py.

There's no guarantee about the size or content of pickle 
strings, BTW, and cPickle does play tricks not available to 
pickle.py.

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Comment By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Date: 2005-03-05 23:34

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NOTE: doing this using cPickle works without a problem. Also
note that the file is 2KB smaller under cPickle. If they are
supposed to be using the same stream, I think that is a
problem (the same protocol argument was used for both)

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[ python-Bugs-1157576 ] pickle errors

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1157576, was opened at 2005-03-05 23:31
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Category: Python Library
Group: Python 2.4
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: pickle errors

Initial Comment:
pickle is giving me an error while I'm trying to
serialize a dictionary.
Here is the dictionary:
>>> a
{' ': (0, 2), '(': (858, 10), ',': (480, 9), '0': (327,
9), '4': (1393, 11), '8': (1396, 11), '@': (3496, 13),
'D': (212, 8), 'H': (1749, 12), 'L': (328, 9), 'P':
(344, 9), 'T': (215, 8), 'X': (4041, 12), '\': (859,
10), 'd': (16, 5), 'h': (61, 6), 'l': (17, 5), 'p':
(19, 6), 't': (5, 4), 'x': (83, 7), '#': (2632, 12),
"'": (330, 9), '+': (2633, 12), '/': (160, 8), '3':
(697, 10), '7': (2796, 12), '?': (2634, 12), 'C': (175,
8), 'G': (659, 10), 'K': (5571, 13), 'O': (173, 8),
'S': (241, 8), 'W': (662, 10), '[': (144, 9), 'c': (8,
5), 'g': (127, 7), 'k': (161, 8), 'o': (9, 4), 's':
(22, 5), 'w': (104, 7), '\n': (14, 5), '"': (162, 8),
'.': (26, 6), '2': (219, 9), '6': (1399, 11), ':':
(253, 8), 'B': (108, 8), 'F': (426, 9), 'J': (3497,
13), 'N': (146, 9), 'R': (326, 9), 'V': (875, 11), 'Z':
(8080, 13), 'b': (105, 7), 'f': (42, 6), '\xe9': (5570,
13), 'j': (8081, 13), 'n': (27, 5), 'r': (23, 5), 'v':
(37, 7), 'z': (663, 10), '~': (2635, 12), '\t': (2021,
11), '!': (1397, 11), '%': (2784, 12), ')': (1008, 10),
'-': (55, 7), '1': (1009, 10), '5': (4046, 12), '9':
(2797, 12), '=': (15, 5), 'A': (428, 9), 'E': (147, 9),
'I': (481, 9), 'M': (427, 9), 'Q': (436, 10), 'U':
(345, 9), 'Y': (2022, 11), ']': (145, 9), 'a': (29, 5),
'e': (12, 4), 'i': (28, 5), 'm': (62, 6), 'q': (4047,
12), 'u': (12, 5), 'y': (121, 7)}
Here is the series of commands I issue, resulting in an
error:

>>> afile = open("afile", "wb")
>>> p=pickle.Pickler(afile)
>>> p.save(a)
>>> afile.close()
>>> afile = open("afile", "rb")
>>> p=pickle.Unpickler(afile)
>>> a2 = p.load()
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
a2 = p.load()
  File "H:\Python24\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load
dispatch[key](self)
  File "H:\Python24\lib\pickle.py", line 894, in load_eof
raise EOFError
EOFError

Am I doing something wrong or is this pickle's fault?

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>Comment By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Date: 2005-03-06 00:57

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Oh, silly me. I should've noticed something was strange when
cPickle didn't have a save method. I don't know, I must've
stumbled into it and thought it was the right one. Thanks
for your help.

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Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2005-03-06 00:04

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I'm confused by why you're using the Pickler.save() method.  
That's an internal method, not even documented.  If you use 
the documented Pickler.dump() method instead, this should 
work fine with pickle.py.

There's no guarantee about the size or content of pickle 
strings, BTW, and cPickle does play tricks not available to 
pickle.py.

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Comment By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Date: 2005-03-05 23:34

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NOTE: doing this using cPickle works without a problem. Also
note that the file is 2KB smaller under cPickle. If they are
supposed to be using the same stream, I think that is a
problem (the same protocol argument was used for both)

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[ python-Bugs-1157576 ] pickle errors

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1157576, was opened at 2005-03-05 23:31
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Category: Python Library
Group: Python 2.4
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: pickle errors

Initial Comment:
pickle is giving me an error while I'm trying to
serialize a dictionary.
Here is the dictionary:
>>> a
{' ': (0, 2), '(': (858, 10), ',': (480, 9), '0': (327,
9), '4': (1393, 11), '8': (1396, 11), '@': (3496, 13),
'D': (212, 8), 'H': (1749, 12), 'L': (328, 9), 'P':
(344, 9), 'T': (215, 8), 'X': (4041, 12), '\': (859,
10), 'd': (16, 5), 'h': (61, 6), 'l': (17, 5), 'p':
(19, 6), 't': (5, 4), 'x': (83, 7), '#': (2632, 12),
"'": (330, 9), '+': (2633, 12), '/': (160, 8), '3':
(697, 10), '7': (2796, 12), '?': (2634, 12), 'C': (175,
8), 'G': (659, 10), 'K': (5571, 13), 'O': (173, 8),
'S': (241, 8), 'W': (662, 10), '[': (144, 9), 'c': (8,
5), 'g': (127, 7), 'k': (161, 8), 'o': (9, 4), 's':
(22, 5), 'w': (104, 7), '\n': (14, 5), '"': (162, 8),
'.': (26, 6), '2': (219, 9), '6': (1399, 11), ':':
(253, 8), 'B': (108, 8), 'F': (426, 9), 'J': (3497,
13), 'N': (146, 9), 'R': (326, 9), 'V': (875, 11), 'Z':
(8080, 13), 'b': (105, 7), 'f': (42, 6), '\xe9': (5570,
13), 'j': (8081, 13), 'n': (27, 5), 'r': (23, 5), 'v':
(37, 7), 'z': (663, 10), '~': (2635, 12), '\t': (2021,
11), '!': (1397, 11), '%': (2784, 12), ')': (1008, 10),
'-': (55, 7), '1': (1009, 10), '5': (4046, 12), '9':
(2797, 12), '=': (15, 5), 'A': (428, 9), 'E': (147, 9),
'I': (481, 9), 'M': (427, 9), 'Q': (436, 10), 'U':
(345, 9), 'Y': (2022, 11), ']': (145, 9), 'a': (29, 5),
'e': (12, 4), 'i': (28, 5), 'm': (62, 6), 'q': (4047,
12), 'u': (12, 5), 'y': (121, 7)}
Here is the series of commands I issue, resulting in an
error:

>>> afile = open("afile", "wb")
>>> p=pickle.Pickler(afile)
>>> p.save(a)
>>> afile.close()
>>> afile = open("afile", "rb")
>>> p=pickle.Unpickler(afile)
>>> a2 = p.load()
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
a2 = p.load()
  File "H:\Python24\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load
dispatch[key](self)
  File "H:\Python24\lib\pickle.py", line 894, in load_eof
raise EOFError
EOFError

Am I doing something wrong or is this pickle's fault?

--

>Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2005-03-06 00:04

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I'm confused by why you're using the Pickler.save() method.  
That's an internal method, not even documented.  If you use 
the documented Pickler.dump() method instead, this should 
work fine with pickle.py.

There's no guarantee about the size or content of pickle 
strings, BTW, and cPickle does play tricks not available to 
pickle.py.

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Comment By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Date: 2005-03-05 23:34

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NOTE: doing this using cPickle works without a problem. Also
note that the file is 2KB smaller under cPickle. If they are
supposed to be using the same stream, I think that is a
problem (the same protocol argument was used for both)

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[ python-Bugs-1157576 ] pickle errors

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1157576, was opened at 2005-03-05 23:31
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Category: Python Library
Group: Python 2.4
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: pickle errors

Initial Comment:
pickle is giving me an error while I'm trying to
serialize a dictionary.
Here is the dictionary:
>>> a
{' ': (0, 2), '(': (858, 10), ',': (480, 9), '0': (327,
9), '4': (1393, 11), '8': (1396, 11), '@': (3496, 13),
'D': (212, 8), 'H': (1749, 12), 'L': (328, 9), 'P':
(344, 9), 'T': (215, 8), 'X': (4041, 12), '\': (859,
10), 'd': (16, 5), 'h': (61, 6), 'l': (17, 5), 'p':
(19, 6), 't': (5, 4), 'x': (83, 7), '#': (2632, 12),
"'": (330, 9), '+': (2633, 12), '/': (160, 8), '3':
(697, 10), '7': (2796, 12), '?': (2634, 12), 'C': (175,
8), 'G': (659, 10), 'K': (5571, 13), 'O': (173, 8),
'S': (241, 8), 'W': (662, 10), '[': (144, 9), 'c': (8,
5), 'g': (127, 7), 'k': (161, 8), 'o': (9, 4), 's':
(22, 5), 'w': (104, 7), '\n': (14, 5), '"': (162, 8),
'.': (26, 6), '2': (219, 9), '6': (1399, 11), ':':
(253, 8), 'B': (108, 8), 'F': (426, 9), 'J': (3497,
13), 'N': (146, 9), 'R': (326, 9), 'V': (875, 11), 'Z':
(8080, 13), 'b': (105, 7), 'f': (42, 6), '\xe9': (5570,
13), 'j': (8081, 13), 'n': (27, 5), 'r': (23, 5), 'v':
(37, 7), 'z': (663, 10), '~': (2635, 12), '\t': (2021,
11), '!': (1397, 11), '%': (2784, 12), ')': (1008, 10),
'-': (55, 7), '1': (1009, 10), '5': (4046, 12), '9':
(2797, 12), '=': (15, 5), 'A': (428, 9), 'E': (147, 9),
'I': (481, 9), 'M': (427, 9), 'Q': (436, 10), 'U':
(345, 9), 'Y': (2022, 11), ']': (145, 9), 'a': (29, 5),
'e': (12, 4), 'i': (28, 5), 'm': (62, 6), 'q': (4047,
12), 'u': (12, 5), 'y': (121, 7)}
Here is the series of commands I issue, resulting in an
error:

>>> afile = open("afile", "wb")
>>> p=pickle.Pickler(afile)
>>> p.save(a)
>>> afile.close()
>>> afile = open("afile", "rb")
>>> p=pickle.Unpickler(afile)
>>> a2 = p.load()
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
a2 = p.load()
  File "H:\Python24\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load
dispatch[key](self)
  File "H:\Python24\lib\pickle.py", line 894, in load_eof
raise EOFError
EOFError

Am I doing something wrong or is this pickle's fault?

--

>Comment By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Date: 2005-03-05 23:34

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NOTE: doing this using cPickle works without a problem. Also
note that the file is 2KB smaller under cPickle. If they are
supposed to be using the same stream, I think that is a
problem (the same protocol argument was used for both)

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[ python-Bugs-1157576 ] pickle errors

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1157576, was opened at 2005-03-05 23:31
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Category: Python Library
Group: Python 2.4
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Laxori666 (laxori666)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: pickle errors

Initial Comment:
pickle is giving me an error while I'm trying to
serialize a dictionary.
Here is the dictionary:
>>> a
{' ': (0, 2), '(': (858, 10), ',': (480, 9), '0': (327,
9), '4': (1393, 11), '8': (1396, 11), '@': (3496, 13),
'D': (212, 8), 'H': (1749, 12), 'L': (328, 9), 'P':
(344, 9), 'T': (215, 8), 'X': (4041, 12), '\': (859,
10), 'd': (16, 5), 'h': (61, 6), 'l': (17, 5), 'p':
(19, 6), 't': (5, 4), 'x': (83, 7), '#': (2632, 12),
"'": (330, 9), '+': (2633, 12), '/': (160, 8), '3':
(697, 10), '7': (2796, 12), '?': (2634, 12), 'C': (175,
8), 'G': (659, 10), 'K': (5571, 13), 'O': (173, 8),
'S': (241, 8), 'W': (662, 10), '[': (144, 9), 'c': (8,
5), 'g': (127, 7), 'k': (161, 8), 'o': (9, 4), 's':
(22, 5), 'w': (104, 7), '\n': (14, 5), '"': (162, 8),
'.': (26, 6), '2': (219, 9), '6': (1399, 11), ':':
(253, 8), 'B': (108, 8), 'F': (426, 9), 'J': (3497,
13), 'N': (146, 9), 'R': (326, 9), 'V': (875, 11), 'Z':
(8080, 13), 'b': (105, 7), 'f': (42, 6), '\xe9': (5570,
13), 'j': (8081, 13), 'n': (27, 5), 'r': (23, 5), 'v':
(37, 7), 'z': (663, 10), '~': (2635, 12), '\t': (2021,
11), '!': (1397, 11), '%': (2784, 12), ')': (1008, 10),
'-': (55, 7), '1': (1009, 10), '5': (4046, 12), '9':
(2797, 12), '=': (15, 5), 'A': (428, 9), 'E': (147, 9),
'I': (481, 9), 'M': (427, 9), 'Q': (436, 10), 'U':
(345, 9), 'Y': (2022, 11), ']': (145, 9), 'a': (29, 5),
'e': (12, 4), 'i': (28, 5), 'm': (62, 6), 'q': (4047,
12), 'u': (12, 5), 'y': (121, 7)}
Here is the series of commands I issue, resulting in an
error:

>>> afile = open("afile", "wb")
>>> p=pickle.Pickler(afile)
>>> p.save(a)
>>> afile.close()
>>> afile = open("afile", "rb")
>>> p=pickle.Unpickler(afile)
>>> a2 = p.load()
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
a2 = p.load()
  File "H:\Python24\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load
dispatch[key](self)
  File "H:\Python24\lib\pickle.py", line 894, in load_eof
raise EOFError
EOFError

Am I doing something wrong or is this pickle's fault?

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[ python-Bugs-818006 ] ossaudiodev FileObject does not support closed const

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #818006, was opened at 2003-10-05 02:30
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Category: Extension Modules
Group: Python 2.4
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Dave Cinege (dcinege)
Assigned to: Greg Ward (gward)
Summary: ossaudiodev FileObject does not support closed const

Initial Comment:
fin = ossaudiodev.open(dspfile, 'r') 
if fin.closed == True: 
AttributeError: closed 
 

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Comment By: Terry J. Reedy (tjreedy)
Date: 2005-03-05 15:48

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I am not sure who your last comment is aimed at.  As near as I 
can tell, Greg merely updated the group to Py2.4, implying that 
this issue is still relevant.

In Pythonese, should is advisory; only must is mandatory.  So I 
see this as a request for a pre-approved enhancement.  Since 
ossaudiodevice directly wraps an OS open file descripter, rather 
than a Python file object, the patch is more than a triviality.

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Comment By: Dave Cinege (dcinege)
Date: 2005-03-05 13:08

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That was the point of the bug report. It has no closed 
or other file-like attributes. According the python docs 
then and current: 
'File objects also offer a number of other interesting 
attributes. These are not required for file-like objects, 
but should be implemented if they make sense for 
the particular object. ' 
 
I take that to mean these attributes are mandatory, 
unless it does not make sense to implement them. 
 
In the case of file-like Audio Device Objects, they 
make sense, and thus should be there.  
 
Either this statement of file-like object policy is a bug, 
or the lack of such attributes in Audio Device Objects 
is a bug.  
 

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Comment By: Dave Cinege (dcinege)
Date: 2003-10-05 16:32

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Please see: 
http://python.org/doc/current/lib/bltin-file-objects.html 
""" 
File objects also offer a number of other interesting attributes. 
These are not required for file-like objects, but should be 
implemented if they make sense for the particular object.  
"" 
 
"Should be" when they "make sense"  is my rational for 
reporting this as a bug. 
 
I found this by trying to convert existing code from a normal 
open of /dev/dsp to ossaudiodev.open(), that IMO "should" 
have worked.  : P 
 
Other attributes that "should be" implemented  (mode and 
name) because they "make sense" may also be missing...I 
haven't checked.  
 

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Date: 2003-10-05 16:16

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>From Lib Ref 14.11 ossaudiodev "open( [device, ]mode) 
Open an audio device and return an OSS audio device object.
"
Checking http://python.org/doc/current/lib/ossaudio-device-
objects.html 14.11.1 Audio Device Objects I can find no 
mention of closed attribute or indeed of any attributes other 
than methods.  Why were you expecting such?  If report is a 
mistake, please close.


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[ python-Bugs-1156412 ] add documentation for __new__

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1156412, was opened at 2005-03-03 20:00
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Category: Documentation
Group: Python 2.5
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Steven Bethard (bediviere)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: add documentation for __new__

Initial Comment:
3.3.1 Basic customization does not document __new__. 
Proposed addition:

__new__(cls[, ...])

Called to create a new instance of the class.  __new__
is a staticmethod (special-cased so you need not
declare it as such) that takes the class to be created
as the first argument.  The remaining arguments are
those passed to the class constructor expression. The
return value of __new__ should be the new object instance.

Typical usage is to create a new instance of the class
by invoking the superclass's __new__ method using
"super(BaseClass, cls).__new__([...])" with appropriate
arguments, modifying the returned instance if
necessary, and then returning it.  If the returned
value is an instance of "cls" (the first argument to
__new__), its __init__ will be invoked.

Note that you need not return an instance of "cls", but
if you don't, the new instance's __init__ method will
not be invoked.

The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow
modification of immutable types like int, long, float,
str and tuple.

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>Comment By: Steven Bethard (bediviere)
Date: 2005-03-05 13:30

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Looks pretty good to me.  Only one change:
"super(currentclass, cls).__new__([...])"
should look like:
"super(currentclass, cls).__new__(cls[, ...])"
Sorry I didn't catch this earlier.  But, since it's a
staticmethod, of course you need to pass 'cls' manually.


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Comment By: Greg Ward (gward)
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Here's an alternative text -- a bit tighter, hopefully a tad
more accurate and clearer:

__new__(cls[, ...])

Called to create a new instance of class 'cls'.  __new__()
is a static method (special-cased so you need not declare it
as such) that takes the class to create an instance of as
the first argument.  The remaining arguments are those
passed to the object constructor expression.  The return
value of __new__() should be the new object instance.

Typical usage is to create a new instance of the class by
invoking the superclass's __new__() method using
"super(currentclass, cls).__new__([...])" with appropriate
arguments, modifying the returned instance if necessary, and
then returning it.  If the returned value is an instance of
'cls', its __init__() will be invoked like
"__init__(self[, ...])", where the extra arguments are the
same as were passed to __new__().

You do need not to return an instance of 'cls', but if you
do not, the new instance's __init__() method will not be
invoked.

__new__() is intended mainly to allow subclasses of
immutable types (like int, str, or tuple) to customize
instance creation.


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Date: 2005-03-05 09:11

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I think that last paragraph can be written even more concisely:

"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow
subclasses of immutable types (like int, str, or tuple) to
customize instance creation."

Also, the usual convention when talking about methods and
functions is to write "__new__()", not "__new__".  At least
that's how the 2.3.3 language ref which I have on my PC looks.

Finally, this bug is in the "Python 2.5" group -- surely
there's no harm in checking this in to the 2.4 docs and
merging forward?

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Date: 2005-03-04 21:02

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Close, but the phrasing's a bit awkward. Getting rid of the
commas seems to fix that:

"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow you to
customize instance creation in a subclass of an immutable
type (like int, long, float, complex, str, unicode, or tuple)."

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Date: 2005-03-04 13:19

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Good point.  How about:

"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow you,
in a subclass of an immutable type (like int, long, float,
complex, str, unicode, or tuple), to customize instance
creation."

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"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow
modification of immutable types like

[ python-Bugs-818006 ] ossaudiodev FileObject does not support closed const

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #818006, was opened at 2003-10-05 02:30
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Category: Extension Modules
Group: Python 2.4
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Dave Cinege (dcinege)
Assigned to: Greg Ward (gward)
Summary: ossaudiodev FileObject does not support closed const

Initial Comment:
fin = ossaudiodev.open(dspfile, 'r') 
if fin.closed == True: 
AttributeError: closed 
 

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Date: 2005-03-05 13:08

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That was the point of the bug report. It has no closed 
or other file-like attributes. According the python docs 
then and current: 
'File objects also offer a number of other interesting 
attributes. These are not required for file-like objects, 
but should be implemented if they make sense for 
the particular object. ' 
 
I take that to mean these attributes are mandatory, 
unless it does not make sense to implement them. 
 
In the case of file-like Audio Device Objects, they 
make sense, and thus should be there.  
 
Either this statement of file-like object policy is a bug, 
or the lack of such attributes in Audio Device Objects 
is a bug.  
 

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Date: 2003-10-05 16:32

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Please see: 
http://python.org/doc/current/lib/bltin-file-objects.html 
""" 
File objects also offer a number of other interesting attributes. 
These are not required for file-like objects, but should be 
implemented if they make sense for the particular object.  
"" 
 
"Should be" when they "make sense"  is my rational for 
reporting this as a bug. 
 
I found this by trying to convert existing code from a normal 
open of /dev/dsp to ossaudiodev.open(), that IMO "should" 
have worked.  : P 
 
Other attributes that "should be" implemented  (mode and 
name) because they "make sense" may also be missing...I 
haven't checked.  
 

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Date: 2003-10-05 16:16

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>From Lib Ref 14.11 ossaudiodev "open( [device, ]mode) 
Open an audio device and return an OSS audio device object.
"
Checking http://python.org/doc/current/lib/ossaudio-device-
objects.html 14.11.1 Audio Device Objects I can find no 
mention of closed attribute or indeed of any attributes other 
than methods.  Why were you expecting such?  If report is a 
mistake, please close.


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[ python-Bugs-1156412 ] add documentation for __new__

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1156412, was opened at 2005-03-03 22:00
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Category: Documentation
Group: Python 2.5
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Steven Bethard (bediviere)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: add documentation for __new__

Initial Comment:
3.3.1 Basic customization does not document __new__. 
Proposed addition:

__new__(cls[, ...])

Called to create a new instance of the class.  __new__
is a staticmethod (special-cased so you need not
declare it as such) that takes the class to be created
as the first argument.  The remaining arguments are
those passed to the class constructor expression. The
return value of __new__ should be the new object instance.

Typical usage is to create a new instance of the class
by invoking the superclass's __new__ method using
"super(BaseClass, cls).__new__([...])" with appropriate
arguments, modifying the returned instance if
necessary, and then returning it.  If the returned
value is an instance of "cls" (the first argument to
__new__), its __init__ will be invoked.

Note that you need not return an instance of "cls", but
if you don't, the new instance's __init__ method will
not be invoked.

The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow
modification of immutable types like int, long, float,
str and tuple.

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Date: 2005-03-05 11:34

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Here's an alternative text -- a bit tighter, hopefully a tad
more accurate and clearer:

__new__(cls[, ...])

Called to create a new instance of class 'cls'.  __new__()
is a static method (special-cased so you need not declare it
as such) that takes the class to create an instance of as
the first argument.  The remaining arguments are those
passed to the object constructor expression.  The return
value of __new__() should be the new object instance.

Typical usage is to create a new instance of the class by
invoking the superclass's __new__() method using
"super(currentclass, cls).__new__([...])" with appropriate
arguments, modifying the returned instance if necessary, and
then returning it.  If the returned value is an instance of
'cls', its __init__() will be invoked like
"__init__(self[, ...])", where the extra arguments are the
same as were passed to __new__().

You do need not to return an instance of 'cls', but if you
do not, the new instance's __init__() method will not be
invoked.

__new__() is intended mainly to allow subclasses of
immutable types (like int, str, or tuple) to customize
instance creation.


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Comment By: Greg Ward (gward)
Date: 2005-03-05 11:11

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I think that last paragraph can be written even more concisely:

"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow
subclasses of immutable types (like int, str, or tuple) to
customize instance creation."

Also, the usual convention when talking about methods and
functions is to write "__new__()", not "__new__".  At least
that's how the 2.3.3 language ref which I have on my PC looks.

Finally, this bug is in the "Python 2.5" group -- surely
there's no harm in checking this in to the 2.4 docs and
merging forward?

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Comment By: Nick Coghlan (ncoghlan)
Date: 2005-03-04 23:02

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Close, but the phrasing's a bit awkward. Getting rid of the
commas seems to fix that:

"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow you to
customize instance creation in a subclass of an immutable
type (like int, long, float, complex, str, unicode, or tuple)."

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Comment By: Steven Bethard (bediviere)
Date: 2005-03-04 15:19

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Good point.  How about:

"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow you,
in a subclass of an immutable type (like int, long, float,
complex, str, unicode, or tuple), to customize instance
creation."

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Date: 2005-03-04 13:05

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"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow
modification of immutable types like int, long, float,
str and tuple."

You might like to rephrase that. It gives the impression
that __new__ somehow makes it possible to modify the value
of an immutable object. In fact, it only allows customized
creation of new instances.


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Date: 2005-03-04 11:11

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Yup, type_call in typeobject.c spec

[ python-Bugs-818006 ] ossaudiodev FileObject does not support closed const

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #818006, was opened at 2003-10-05 02:30
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Category: Extension Modules
>Group: Python 2.4
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Dave Cinege (dcinege)
Assigned to: Greg Ward (gward)
Summary: ossaudiodev FileObject does not support closed const

Initial Comment:
fin = ossaudiodev.open(dspfile, 'r') 
if fin.closed == True: 
AttributeError: closed 
 

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Comment By: Dave Cinege (dcinege)
Date: 2003-10-05 16:32

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Please see: 
http://python.org/doc/current/lib/bltin-file-objects.html 
""" 
File objects also offer a number of other interesting attributes. 
These are not required for file-like objects, but should be 
implemented if they make sense for the particular object.  
"" 
 
"Should be" when they "make sense"  is my rational for 
reporting this as a bug. 
 
I found this by trying to convert existing code from a normal 
open of /dev/dsp to ossaudiodev.open(), that IMO "should" 
have worked.  : P 
 
Other attributes that "should be" implemented  (mode and 
name) because they "make sense" may also be missing...I 
haven't checked.  
 

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Comment By: Terry J. Reedy (tjreedy)
Date: 2003-10-05 16:16

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>From Lib Ref 14.11 ossaudiodev "open( [device, ]mode) 
Open an audio device and return an OSS audio device object.
"
Checking http://python.org/doc/current/lib/ossaudio-device-
objects.html 14.11.1 Audio Device Objects I can find no 
mention of closed attribute or indeed of any attributes other 
than methods.  Why were you expecting such?  If report is a 
mistake, please close.


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[ python-Bugs-1156412 ] add documentation for __new__

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1156412, was opened at 2005-03-03 22:00
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Category: Documentation
Group: Python 2.5
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Steven Bethard (bediviere)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: add documentation for __new__

Initial Comment:
3.3.1 Basic customization does not document __new__. 
Proposed addition:

__new__(cls[, ...])

Called to create a new instance of the class.  __new__
is a staticmethod (special-cased so you need not
declare it as such) that takes the class to be created
as the first argument.  The remaining arguments are
those passed to the class constructor expression. The
return value of __new__ should be the new object instance.

Typical usage is to create a new instance of the class
by invoking the superclass's __new__ method using
"super(BaseClass, cls).__new__([...])" with appropriate
arguments, modifying the returned instance if
necessary, and then returning it.  If the returned
value is an instance of "cls" (the first argument to
__new__), its __init__ will be invoked.

Note that you need not return an instance of "cls", but
if you don't, the new instance's __init__ method will
not be invoked.

The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow
modification of immutable types like int, long, float,
str and tuple.

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>Comment By: Greg Ward (gward)
Date: 2005-03-05 11:11

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I think that last paragraph can be written even more concisely:

"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow
subclasses of immutable types (like int, str, or tuple) to
customize instance creation."

Also, the usual convention when talking about methods and
functions is to write "__new__()", not "__new__".  At least
that's how the 2.3.3 language ref which I have on my PC looks.

Finally, this bug is in the "Python 2.5" group -- surely
there's no harm in checking this in to the 2.4 docs and
merging forward?

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Comment By: Nick Coghlan (ncoghlan)
Date: 2005-03-04 23:02

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Close, but the phrasing's a bit awkward. Getting rid of the
commas seems to fix that:

"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow you to
customize instance creation in a subclass of an immutable
type (like int, long, float, complex, str, unicode, or tuple)."

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Comment By: Steven Bethard (bediviere)
Date: 2005-03-04 15:19

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Good point.  How about:

"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow you,
in a subclass of an immutable type (like int, long, float,
complex, str, unicode, or tuple), to customize instance
creation."

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Comment By: Oren Tirosh (orenti)
Date: 2005-03-04 13:05

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"The __new__ staticmethod is intended mainly to allow
modification of immutable types like int, long, float,
str and tuple."

You might like to rephrase that. It gives the impression
that __new__ somehow makes it possible to modify the value
of an immutable object. In fact, it only allows customized
creation of new instances.


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Comment By: Steven Bethard (bediviere)
Date: 2005-03-04 11:11

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Yup, type_call in typeobject.c special-cases this behavior.
 See also
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1123716&group_id=5470&atid=105470

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Looks reasonable to me - but does CPython actually currently
follow those rules regarding when __init__ is and isn't invoked?

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[ python-Bugs-1157255 ] PEP 328 and Python 2.4 error

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1157255, was opened at 2005-03-05 13:23
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Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Kent Johnson (kjohnson)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: PEP 328 and Python 2.4 error

Initial Comment:
PEP 328 says that 
from __future__ import absolute_import

will be part of Python 2.4, but it is not:

D:\Projects\CB>python
Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32
bit (Intel)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for
more information.
 >>> from __future__ import absolute_import
  File "", line 1
SyntaxError: future feature absolute_import is not defined

The PEP should be updated to reflect this.

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[ python-Bugs-1157169 ] csv Sniffer returns bad dialect?

2005-03-05 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1157169, was opened at 2005-03-05 08:14
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Category: Python Library
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Neil Schemenauer (nascheme)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: csv Sniffer returns bad dialect?

Initial Comment:

>>> d = csv.Sniffer().sniff('abc', ['\t', ','])
>>> csv.reader(['abc'], d)   
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
TypeError: bad argument type for built-in operation

If the 'delimiters' argument to sniff() is left out
then the TypeError is not raised.  Not sure what's
going on here.

A few other nits:

sniff() seems to be misdocumented.  It cannot return None.

What's the point of the Sniff class?  Why isn't sniff()
a module level function?

The library manual does not state what the iterator
returned by reader() returns.  It should state that
generates lists of strings.

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