[issue43805] multiprocessing.Queue hangs when process on other side dies

2021-12-06 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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It's not my decision, so I can't really say. But the Queue API is pretty 
stable, and exists 3 times over in Python (the queue module for use with 
threads, in multiprocessing and in asyncio). So I'd guess that anyone wanting 
to add to that API would need to make a compelling case for why it's important, 
and be prepared for a lot of wrangling over API details (like method names and 
exceptions).

If you want to push that idea, you could try the ideas board on the Python 
discourse forum: https://discuss.python.org/c/ideas/6 .

You might also want to look at previous discussions about adding a 
Queue.close() method: issue29701 and issue40888.

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[issue43805] multiprocessing.Queue hangs when process on other side dies

2021-11-24 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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I think this is expected. The queue itself doesn't know that one particular 
process is meant to put data into it. It just knows that there's no data to 
get, so .get() blocks as the docs say it should.

This doesn't apply to issue22393, because the pool knows about its worker 
processes, so if one dies before completing a task, it can know something is 
wrong.

You could add a method to 'half close' a queue, so it can only be used for 
receiving, but not sending. If you called this in the parent process after 
starting the child, then if the child died, the queue would know that nothing 
could ever put data into it, and .get() could error. The channels API in Trio 
allows this, and it's the same idea I've just described at the OS level in 
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[issue43806] asyncio.StreamReader hangs when reading from pipe and other process exits unexpectedly

2021-11-24 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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In the example script, I believe you need to close the write end of the pipe in 
the parent after forking:

cpid = os.fork()
if cpid == 0:
# Write to pipe (child)
else:
# Parent
os.close(ctx)
# Read from pipe

This is the same with synchronous code: os.read(prx, 1) also hangs. You only 
get EOF when nothing has the write end open any more. All the asyncio machinery 
doesn't really make any difference to this.

For a similar reason, the code writing (the child, in this case) should close 
the read end of the pipe after forking. If the parent goes away but the child 
still has the read end open, then trying to write to the pipe can hang (if the 
buffer is already full). If the child has closed the read end, trying to write 
will give you a BrokenPipeError.

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[issue37612] os.link(..., follow_symlinks=True) broken on Linux

2021-03-23 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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[issue24916] In sysconfig, don't rely on sys.version format

2020-03-17 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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Serhiy, I think you fixed the part that was actually likely to cause problems a 
few years ago in issue #25985 & commit 885bdc4946890f4bb80557fab80c3874b2cc4d39 
. Using sys.version[:3] to get a short version like 3.8 was what I wanted to 
fix.

People are presumably still trying to change the other bits because there's 
still a FIXME comment. If we're happy with the current code, I think we can 
remove that comment and close the issue.

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[issue36695] Change (regression?) in v3.8.0a3 doctest output after capturing the stderr output from a raised warning

2019-04-24 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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D'oh, yes. I missed that the failing example was displaying the captured string 
through displayhook. It makes sense now. Thanks for patiently explaining. :-)

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[issue36695] Change (regression?) in v3.8.0a3 doctest output after capturing the stderr output from a raised warning

2019-04-24 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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The 'single' option to compile() means it's run like at a REPL, calling 
displayhook if it's an expression returning a value.

But warnings shouldn't go through the displayhook, as far as I know:

>>> from contextlib import redirect_stdout, redirect_stderr
>>> from io import StringIO
>>> sio = StringIO()
>>> with redirect_stderr(sio):
...   exec(compile('import warnings; warnings.warn(""" \' " """)', 'dummyfile', 
'single'))
... 
>>> print(sio.getvalue())
__main__:1: UserWarning:  ' "

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[issue36695] Change (regression?) in v3.8.0a3 doctest output after capturing the stderr output from a raised warning

2019-04-24 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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I'm still a bit confused why it gets escaped - as far as I know, the escaping 
only happens when you repr() a string, as the displayhook does automatically:

>>> a = """ a ' single and " double quote """
>>> a
' a \' single and " double quote '
>>> print(repr(a))
' a \' single and " double quote '
>>> print("%r" % a)
' a \' single and " double quote '
>>> print(a)
 a ' single and " double quote

The warnings code doesn't appear to ever repr() the message. So I guess it's 
some further bit of interaction with doctest. But unfortunately I don't have 
time to dig through doctest to try and understand it.

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[issue36695] Change (regression?) in v3.8.0a3 doctest output after capturing the stderr output from a raised warning

2019-04-22 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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It's not obvious to me why that change to finding the source file related to 
the warning should affect the format of the warning message printed. It might 
be something that could be fixed in the warning module. But I don't understand 
where it's going wrong at present.

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[issue36691] SystemExit & sys.exit : Allow both exit status and message

2019-04-21 Thread Thomas Kluyver


New submission from Thomas Kluyver :

The SystemExit exception, and consequently the sys.exit() function,  take a 
single parameter which is either an integer exit status for the process, or a 
message to print to stderr before exiting - in which case the exit status is 
implicitly 1.

In certain situations, it would be useful to pass both an exit status and a 
message. E.g. when argparse handles '--help', it wants to display a message and 
exit successfully (status 0). You may also use specific exit codes to indicate 
different kinds of failure.

Printing the message separately before raising SystemExit is not an entirely 
satisfactory subsitute, because the message attached to the exception is only 
printed if it is unhandled. E.g. for testing code that may raise SystemExit, 
it's useful to have the message as part of the exception.

I imagine that the trickiest bit of changing this would be ensuring as much 
backwards compatibility as possible. In particular, SystemExit exceptions have 
a 'code' attribute which can be either the exit status or the message.

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[issue33944] Deprecate and remove pth files

2019-03-07 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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As a lurker on this issue: I think a lot of energy is being expended arguing 
about what is and isn't legitimate use cases, when there's actually more stuff 
that people agree about than not.

I think this issue should be broken down into two, neither of which will 
actually result in removing pth files:

1. Better ways to inspect and control the sys.path extension feature (as per 
Barry's message https://bugs.python.org/issue33944#msg337417 ).
2. Designing a replacement for the arbitrary-code-at-startup feature (or even 
several replacements to meet different needs), leading to its eventual 
deprecation.

If you like the ability for packages to install interpreter-startup hooks, then 
pth files are an ugly way to do it. If you don't, then you want better ways to 
control it. So let's see what we can come up with.

At least several important use cases (coverage and debugging) would probably 
work with an environment variable to specify startup code. The coverage hooks 
already check an environment variable themselves, so it's clearly a control 
mechanism that works. It's also familiar from things like LD_PRELOAD that 
environment variables can affect code in powerful ways.

But the PYTHONSTARTUP variable is not suitable for this, because it only 
affects interactive shell sessions. So maybe one useful step would be to 
specify a new environment variable, maybe PYTHONPRELOAD, and figure out how it 
will interact with all the other options.

Then we can re-evaluate the use cases Anthony described 
(https://bugs.python.org/issue33944#msg337406 ) and debate the need for other 
startup-code mechanisms to go along with that.

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[issue28418] Raise Deprecation warning for tokenize.generate_tokens

2018-09-23 Thread Thomas Kluyver


Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

Yes, I think this can be closed now.

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[issue33944] Deprecate and remove pth files

2018-06-22 Thread Thomas Kluyver


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I don't want to use the execution features of .pth files, just their original 
functionality of adding extra directories to sys.path. I'd be very happy to see 
the arbitrary code execution 'feature' of .pth files go away.

Windows supports symlinks, but the last I heard was that creating them requires 
some obscure permission bit. It seems to be awkward enough that Windows users 
aren't happy with the "just use symlinks" approach, which was what I was 
originally trying.

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[issue33944] Deprecate and remove pth files

2018-06-22 Thread Thomas Kluyver


Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

I'm generally in favour of getting rid of .pth files. But I did accept a PR 
adding support for them in Flit to act as a substitute for symlinks on Windows, 
to achieve something like a 'development install'. I'm not sure what the 
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[issue33912] [EASY] test_warnings: test_exec_filename() fails when run with -Werror

2018-06-20 Thread Thomas Kluyver


Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

Yes, this should be easy. I misunderstood how to use the catch_warnings context 
manager. I thought that catch_warnings itself set up the warnings filters you 
need. You actually need to do that with a separate call inside the with block, 
as shown here:

https://docs.python.org/3/library/warnings.html#testing-warnings

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[issue12486] tokenize module should have a unicode API

2018-06-05 Thread Thomas Kluyver


Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

Thanks Carol :-)

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[issue12486] tokenize module should have a unicode API

2018-05-28 Thread Thomas Kluyver


Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

The tests on PR #6957 are passing now, if anyone has time to have a look. :-)

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[issue12486] tokenize module should have a unicode API

2018-05-18 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

Thanks - I had forgotten it, just fixed it now.

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[issue12486] tokenize module should have a unicode API

2018-05-18 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

I agree, it's not a good design, but it's what's already there; I just want to 
ensure that it won't be removed without a deprecation cycle. My PR makes no 
changes to behaviour, only to documentation and tests.

This and issue 9969 have both been around for several years. A new tokenize API 
is clearly not at the top of anyone's priority list - and that's fine. I'd 
rather have *some* unicode API today than a promise of a nice unicode API in 
the future. And it doesn't preclude adding a better API later, it just means 
that the existing API would have to have a deprecation cycle.

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[issue12486] tokenize module should have a unicode API

2018-05-18 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

I wouldn't say it's a good name, but I think the advantage of documenting an 
existing name outweighs that. We can start (or continue) using 
generate_tokens() right away, whereas a new name presumably wouldn't be 
available until Python 3.8 comes out. And we usually don't require a new Python 
version until a couple of years after it is released.

If we want to add better names or clearer APIs on top of this, great. But I 
don't want that discussion to hold up the simple step of committing to keep the 
existing API.

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[issue28418] Raise Deprecation warning for tokenize.generate_tokens

2018-05-17 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

I've opened a PR moving in the other direction (making this public rather than 
deprecating it):

https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/6957

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[issue9969] tokenize: add support for tokenizing 'str' objects

2018-05-17 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

I've opened a PR for issue #12486, which would make the existing but 
undocumented 'generate_tokens' function public:

https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/6957

I agree that it would be good to design a nicer API for this, but the perfect 
shouldn't be the enemy of the good.

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[issue12486] tokenize module should have a unicode API

2018-05-17 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Change by Thomas Kluyver :


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[issue33375] warnings: get filename from frame.f_code.co_filename

2018-05-03 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

Thanks! No rush, I just thought I'd take the opportunity when you added 
yourself to the nosy list.

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[issue33375] warnings: get filename from frame.f_code.co_filename

2018-05-03 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

Hi Brett! If you get a moment, any review of the linked PR would be welcome. :-)

https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/6622

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[issue33375] warnings: get filename from frame.f_code.co_filename

2018-04-27 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Change by Thomas Kluyver :


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[issue1692664] warnings.py gets filename wrong for eval/exec

2018-04-27 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

Thanks Guido, the new issue is #33375.

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[issue33375] warnings: get filename from frame.f_code.co_filename

2018-04-27 Thread Thomas Kluyver

New submission from Thomas Kluyver :

The warnings module tries to find and show the line of code which is 
responsible for a warning, for the same reasons that tracebacks show a line of 
code from each stack frame. However, they work in quite different ways.

Native tracebacks, the traceback module and pdb all do something like this:

frame.f_code.co_filename

But warnings does something like this (paraphrasing C code in _warnings.c):

frame.f_globals.get('__file__', sys.argv[0])

This causes problems for interactive interpreters like IPython, because there 
are multiple pieces of entered code which have to share the same global 
namespace. E.g. https://github.com/ipython/ipython/issues/11080

This was raised a long time ago in #1692664. Back then, the answer was that 
co_filename could be wrong if the path of a pyc file changed. However, that 
issue was fixed in #1180193. And it seems that the co_filename approach must 
largely work today, because tracebacks and pdb rely on it.

So I'm proposing to make warnings match how those other tools find filenames. I 
think this should also be a minor simplification of the code.

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[issue1692664] warnings.py gets filename wrong for eval/exec

2018-04-27 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

Time for some bug archaeology!

The reason given for not using frame.f_code.co_filename for warnings was that 
it can be wrong when the path of .pyc files changes. However, it looks like 
that was fixed in #1180193 (thanks for the pointer zseil), so I'd like this 
idea to be reconsidered.

Python uses frame.f_code.co_filename for tracebacks and in pdb, so it's 
counterintuitive that the warnings module works differently. They are all 
trying to do the same thing: find and show the bit of code that you're 
interested in.

This causes problems in IPython with warnings attributed to interactive code: 
warnings sees it all as part of the __main__ module, so we can't distinguish 
which input it's pointing to (it's usually obvious, but still...). We have 
integrated with linecache to make tracebacks work, and I think that if warnings 
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[issue22102] Zipfile generates Zipfile error in zip with 0 total number of disk in Zip64 end of central directory locator

2018-03-12 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

If every Windows 7 computer is generating zipfiles which are invalid in this 
way, that would be a pretty strong argument for Python (and other tools) to 
accept it. But if that was the case, I would also expect that there would be 
many more issues about it.

Are the files you're compressing large (multi-GB)? Python only uses the zip64 
format when the files are too big for the older zip format; maybe Windows is 
doing the same. Even in that case, I'm still surprised that more people don't 
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[issue22102] Zipfile generates Zipfile error in zip with 0 total number of disk in Zip64 end of central directory locator

2018-03-12 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

I found source code for some other projects handling the same data. They all 
seem to agree that it should be 1:

- Golang's zip reading code: 
https://github.com/golang/go/blob/f7ac70a56604033e2b1abc921d3f0f6afc85a7b3/src/archive/zip/reader.go#L536-L538
- A C contrib file with zlib: 
https://github.com/madler/zlib/blob/cacf7f1d4e3d44d871b605da3b647f07d718623f/contrib/minizip/zip.c#L620-L624
- Code from Info-ZIP, which is used by many Linux distros, is a bit less clear, 
but it has an illuminating comment:

if ((G.ecrec.number_this_disk != 0x) &&
(G.ecrec.number_this_disk != ecloc64_total_disks - 1)) {
  /* Note: For some unknown reason, the developers at PKWARE decided to
 store the "zip64 total disks" value as a counter starting from 1,
 whereas all other "split/span volume" related fields use 0-based
 volume numbers. Sigh... */

So I think you've got an invalid zip file. If it's otherwise valid, there might 
be a case for Python tolerating that particular mistake. But it's probably 
better to fix whatever is making the incorrect zip file, because other tools 
are also going to reject it.

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[issue22102] Zipfile generates Zipfile error in zip with 0 total number of disk in Zip64 end of central directory locator

2018-03-12 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

Do you know what tool created the zip file? I can't find anything in the spec 
(https://pkware.cachefly.net/webdocs/casestudies/APPNOTE.TXT ) to say whether 0 
is a valid value for the number of disks.

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[issue12486] tokenize module should have a unicode API

2018-03-11 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

> Why not just bless the existing generate_tokens() function as a public API

We're actually using generate_tokens() from IPython - we wanted a way to 
tokenize unicode strings, and although it's undocumented, it's been there for a 
number of releases and does what we want. So +1 to promoting it to a public API.

In fact, at the moment, IPython has its own copy of tokenize to fix one or two 
old issues. I'm trying to get rid of that and use the stdlib module again, 
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[issue32699] pythonXY._pth : unclear how .pth files are handled

2018-01-29 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver  added the comment:

Thanks Steve, that looks good.

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[issue32699] pythonXY._pth : unclear how .pth files are handled

2018-01-28 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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I'd reword the second sentence like this:

> Note that .pth files (without leading underscore) will be processed only if 
> this file specifies ``import site``.

The current wording sounds (to me) like a guarantee that .pth files will still 
be handled, despite the other things that this mechanism switches off.

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[issue32699] pythonXY._pth : unclear how .pth files are handled

2018-01-28 Thread Thomas Kluyver

New submission from Thomas Kluyver :

Nicholas Tollervey has been getting Pynsist to use the new pythonXY._pth file 
to assemble sys.path. However, I'm not clear on how this behaves with .pth 
files. The docs on this 
(https://docs.python.org/3/using/windows.html#finding-modules ) appear to 
contradict themselves:

> site is not imported unless one line in the file specifies import site
> ...
> Note that .pth files (without leading underscore) will be processed normally 
> by the site module.

I can see two possibilities:

1. .pth files are processed normally if and only if the ._pth file specifies 
'import site'. If it doesn't, they are ignored.
2. If a .pth file is encountered, site is imported to process it, but with 
sys.flags.nosite set, so that site doesn't do the normal stuff on import.

Some packages unfortunately seem to depend on .pth files getting processed, so 
if 1. is the case, Pynsist needs to ensure site is loaded.

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[issue32247] shutil-copytree: Create dst folder only if it doesn't exist

2017-12-08 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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This is documented:

>  The destination directory, named by dst, must not already exist

https://docs.python.org/3/library/shutil.html#shutil.copytree

I guess that avoids complications that might arise from merging a directory.

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[issue30639] inspect.getfile(obj) calls object repr on failure

2017-06-12 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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OK, I've updated the PR to do that.

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[issue30639] inspect.getfile(obj) calls object repr on failure

2017-06-12 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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Sure, I can do that if you want. The other thing I thought of was using 
object.__repr__, so the repr always shows like  .

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[issue30639] inspect.getfile(obj) calls object repr on failure

2017-06-12 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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[issue30639] inspect.getfile(obj) calls object repr on failure

2017-06-12 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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Not exactly a bug, but I think that an improvement is possible. My plan is to 
delay computing the repr until the error is formatted, so that code which 
catches the TypeError can carry on safely.

I think this is more relevant for inspect than for many other modules, because 
by design, we're often calling inspect functions on arbitrary objects which we 
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[issue30639] inspect.getfile(obj) calls object repr on failure

2017-06-12 Thread Thomas Kluyver

New submission from Thomas Kluyver:

This came up in IPython & Jedi: several functions in inspect end up calling 
getfile(). If the object is something for which it can't find the source file, 
it throws an error, the message for which contains the object's repr.

This is problematic for us because for some objects the repr may be expensive 
to calculate (e.g. data tables where the repr forms primary output, not just 
debugging information). In some cases, it could also throw another error.

I plan to make a PR for this, but I'm opening an issue so I've got a bpo number.

https://github.com/ipython/ipython/issues/10493
https://github.com/davidhalter/jedi/issues/919

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[issue25532] infinite loop when running inspect.unwrap over unittest.mock.call

2017-05-22 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

I could go either way on that. It's not hard to imagine it as a recursive 
algorithm, and using the recursion limit provides a simple configuration escape 
hatch if someone has a desperate need for something wrapped 3000 times for some 
strange reason. But it may also be somewhat surprising if someone sets a really 
high recursion limit and suddenly it behaves oddly.

I've made the PR with getrecursionlimit() for now, but I'm happy to change it 
if people prefer it the other way.

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[issue25532] infinite loop when running inspect.unwrap over unittest.mock.call

2017-05-22 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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This was just reported in IPython as well 
(https://github.com/ipython/ipython/issues/10578 ).

I've prepared a pull request based on Nick's proposal:
https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/1717

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[issue25532] infinite loop when running inspect.unwrap over unittest.mock.call

2017-05-22 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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[issue29622] ast module doesn't support optional fields of Parser/Python.asdl

2017-02-22 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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[issue13285] signal module ignores external signal changes

2017-01-25 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

I pitched both the opaque handle and the context manager to python-ideas, but 
didn't get any responses, positive or negative.

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[issue13285] signal module ignores external signal changes

2017-01-19 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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I'd like to make the case for a fix in the code again. Our use case is, I 
believe, the same as Vilya's. We want to temporarily set a signal handler from 
Python and then restore the previous handler. This is fairly straightforward 
for Python handler functions, and SIG_DFL and SIG_IGN, but it breaks if 
anything has set a C level signal handler.

The opaque wrapper object is a solution that had occurred to me too. Another 
option would be a context manager implemented in C (I assume context managers 
can be written in C) which can set one or more signal handlers on entry, and 
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[issue27050] Demote run() below the high level APIs in subprocess docs

2016-11-13 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

I still feel that having one function with various options is easier to explain 
than three separate functions with awkward names and limited use cases (e.g. no 
capturing output without checking the exit code). The tweeter you replied to 
said he didn't like subprocess.call(). If you really think the trio is a better 
starting point, though, you're the one with the power to change the docs ;-)

There's more awkwardness in the subprocess API; I suspect that what that 
tweeter wants is something built around an event loop - like Node - so you can 
handle output incrementally using events. That's not something that we can 
easily fix in subprocess, because we don't have a default event loop to attach 
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[issue28528] Pdb.checkline()

2016-10-25 Thread Thomas Kluyver

New submission from Thomas Kluyver:

Pdb.checkline() does a hasattr() check to protect against self.curframe not 
existing. self.curframe can also be None (if self.forget() or self.reset() was 
called), but checkline() does not handle this.

The attached patch treats self.curframe == None as equivalent to the attribute 
being absent.

Background:
http://bugs.python.org/issue9230
https://github.com/ipython/ipython/issues/10028

(Georg, I've nosy-listed you as I saw your name on a couple of similar issues; 
I hope you don't mind)

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[issue28384] hmac cannot be used with shake algorithms

2016-10-07 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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[issue23395] _thread.interrupt_main() errors if SIGINT handler in SIG_DFL, SIG_IGN

2016-06-26 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Does Py_DECREF(arglist); need to be called in all cases? I'm genuinely unsure, 
as I don't usually work on C code, but my guess would be that it does.

I'm not sure whether review is now done on Github.

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[issue23395] _thread.interrupt_main() errors if SIGINT handler in SIG_DFL, SIG_IGN

2016-06-26 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

It's waiting for someone to make a patch - I'm no longer running into it, so 
it's not high on my priority list. Given that it's been over a year since I 
created this issue, it's probably not about to get fixed unless you've got some 
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[issue23395] _thread.interrupt_main() errors if SIGINT handler in SIG_DFL, SIG_IGN

2016-06-26 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

As far as I know it has not been fixed.

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[issue27113] sqlite3 connect parameter "check_same_thread" not documented

2016-06-03 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Congrats! :-)

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[issue27113] sqlite3 connect parameter "check_same_thread" not documented

2016-06-02 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

That comment contained far too much 'probably'. Time for me to sleep...

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[issue27113] sqlite3 connect parameter "check_same_thread" not documented

2016-06-02 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Having watched the video of Dave's PyCon talk (thanks Dave), I think he's 
talking about using locking to control transactions, which presumably the 
sqlite bindings don't handle by themselves. But I don't *think* you need manual 
locking just to maintain database integrity. If that's the case, it's probably 
helpful to clarify it.

I'd probably suggest that if you want to write from multiple threads and 
control transactions (i.e. more than just individual INSERTs fired from 
different threads), it's probably easier to use separate connections and let 
sqlite handle the synchronisation than to synchronise them yourself.

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[issue27113] sqlite3 connect parameter "check_same_thread" not documented

2016-05-25 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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[issue27050] Demote run() below the high level APIs in subprocess docs

2016-05-18 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

I'm obviously biased, but I find the 'high level convenience API' less 
convenient than the run() function: there are three different functions for the 
same basic operation, they're not clearly named (check_output is nothing to do 
with checking output), and there are things that should be simple but they can 
only do awkwardly (i.e. capturing both output and the exit code).

Once I can depend on Python >= 3.5, I hope to never use 
call/check_call/check_output again. Using run() might make code slightly 
longer, but I think it also makes it clearer. I accept that the trio can 
probably never be removed, but this is why I demoted them a long way down the 
docs.

Unfortunately I won't be at PyCon this year to discuss this.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-05-15 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

The backported package now exists on PyPI as zipfile36. It's passing the tests 
on 3.4 - I haven't tested further back. I'm trying out Gitlab for hosting it:
https://gitlab.com/takluyver/zipfile36

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-05-15 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Updated version of the patch with the detail moved to rst.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-05-14 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Patch attached for points 2 and 3

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-05-14 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

1. For the cases like read/write handles conflicting, ValueError doesn't seem 
quite right to me - I take ValueError to mean that you have passed an invalid 
value to a function. RuntimeError feels like the closest fit for 'the current 
state does not allow this operation'. It is rather broad, though.

If I was writing it anew, I would use ValueError for something like an invalid 
mode parameter: zf.open('foo', mode='q') . That particular case was already in 
the code, though, so I think backwards compatibility should take precedence.

2 & 3. Agreed, I'll prepare a patch

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-05-14 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Thanks Serhiy! I am marking this as fixed.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-05-12 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Thanks Serhiy. I'm quite happy with that set of constraints. I had a look over 
your patch set, and just spotted one thing in writestr that I have overlooked 
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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-05-10 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Ping? Once this is landed, I intend to make a backport package of it so I can 
start using it before Python 3.6 comes out.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-05-03 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Any further review comments on this?

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-04-26 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

zipfile-open-w8 removes the concurrent read-write check for non-seekable files. 
As Martin points out, reading currently requires seeking, and a streaming read 
API would look very different from the current API.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-04-26 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

zipfile-open-w7 adds a test that Martin requested

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-04-25 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

It wasn't as bad as I thought (hopefully that doesn't mean I've missed 
something). zipfile-open-w6.patch allows interleaved reads and writes so long 
as the underlying file object is seekable.

You still can't have multiple write handles open (it wouldn't know where to 
start the second file), or read & write handles on a non-seekable stream (I 
don't think a non-seekable read-write file ever makes sense, except perhaps for 
a pty, which is really two separate streams on one file descriptor).

Tests are passing again.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-04-23 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Martin, Serhiy: Am I right that it would be unacceptable to change the test, 
and I therefore need to find a way to allow writestr while a reading-mode 
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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile write interface

2016-04-05 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Sorry for the delay, this fell off my radar because emails from both the bug 
tracker and Rietveld tend to fall foul of my spam filters, so I have to go and 
check.

I have implemented Serhiy's suggestions, but there turns out to be a test 
(test_write_after_read) that calls writestr while a reading handle is open, and 
it now fails. This is absolutely expected according to the design we discussed, 
but if there's a test, I guess that means we need to keep that functionality 
working?

In principle, the only thing that's not possible is interleaving writes to 
multiple files within the zip - because we don't know where to start writing 
the second file. We should be able to have one writer and n readers going at 
once, but every time I start looking into that I get mired in complexity. Maybe 
(hopefully) there's some critical abstraction that hasn't occurred to me.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-03-03 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Serhiy, have you had a chance to look at what the zf.open(mode='w') patch does 
with the lock?

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-02-24 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Oh, I see test_interleaved now, which does test overlapping reads of two files 
from the same zip file.

Do you want that clarified in the docs - which don't currently mention the lock 
at all - or in a comment in the module?

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-02-24 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

My initial patch would have allowed passing a readable file-like object into 
zipfile. I was persuaded that allowing ZipFile.open() to return a writable 
object was a more intuitive and flexible API.

Concurrent writes with zf.open(mode='w') should be impossible, because it only 
allows one open handle at a time. It still uses the lock inside _ZipWriteFile, 
so concurrent writes to a single handle should be serialised.

I would not recommend anyone try to do concurrent access to a single ZipFile 
object from multiple threads or coroutines. It's quite stateful, there is no 
mention of concurrency in the docs, and no tests I can see that try concurrent 
access. The only thing that might be safe is reading from two files inside the 
zip file (which shouldn't be changed by this), but I wouldn't want to guarantee 
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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-02-23 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Ping! ;-)

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-02-15 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Hi Serhiy, any more comments on the zf.open() patch?

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-02-08 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Thanks Serhiy! I'll keep an eye out for comments on the other patch.

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[issue22107] tempfile module misinterprets access denied error on Windows

2016-02-04 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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This issue was closed, but I believe the original bug reported was not fixed: 
trying to create a temporary file in a directory where you don't have write 
permissions hangs for a long time before failing with a misleading 
FileExistsError, rather than failing immediately with PermissionError.

I've just run into this on Python 3.5.1 while trying to use tempfile to check 
if a directory is writable - which I'm doing precisely because os.access() 
isn't useful on Windows!

I find it hard to believe that there is no way to distinguish a failure because 
the name is already used for a subdirectory from a failure because we don't 
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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-02-04 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Is there anything more I should be doing with either of these patches? I think 
I've incorporated all review comments I've seen. Thanks!

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-30 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Thanks Martin for more review; updated open-to-write patch attached.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-30 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Updated version of the ZipInfo.from_file() patch attached.

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[issue26185] zipfile.ZipInfo slots can raise unexpected AttributeError

2016-01-30 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-29 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Thanks Serhiy for review comments.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-29 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Here's a new version of the zf.open() patch following Martin's review (thanks 
Martin!).

I agree that it feels a bit awkward having two completely different actions for 
zf.open(), but it is a familiar interface, and since the mode parameter is 
already there, it requires a minimum of new public API. But I'm happy to add a 
new method like open_write() or write_handle() if people prefer that.

The comments on the other patch are minimal, I'll put a new version of that 
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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-29 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file41753/zipinfo-from-file3.patch

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-27 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

The '2' versions of the two different patches include some docs and tests for 
these new features.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-26 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file41722/zipinfo-from-file2.patch

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-26 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Thanks! I will work on docs and tests.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-26 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Serhiy, any chance you'd have some time to review my patch(es)? Or is there 
someone else interested in zipfile I might interest? Thanks :-)

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[issue8604] Adding an atomic FS write API

2016-01-20 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

For reference, we added our own atomic_writing() context manager in 
Jupyter/IPython, after someone lost work when save failed on a full disk. We 
initially went for the same approach - write to a temporary file, fsync, rename 
over the original file - but it caused issues with network filesystems and 
folders synced by Dropbox or similar services.

As a result we switched to an approach that copies the old file to a temporary 
name, writes the new data directly to the old name, then removes the temporary 
copy on success, or renames it back to the old name on failure. This is 
certainly less rigorous, but it means that we're not replacing the file on 
every save, and it's less of a problem if copying file attributes with 
copystat() fails.

I'm sure there are use cases for atomic writing where these problems won't come 
up, but I hope this is a useful data point, at least for documenting any atomic 
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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-17 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

zipinfo-from-file.patch has an orthogonal but related change: the code in 
ZipFile.write() to construct a ZipInfo object from a filesystem file is pulled 
out to a classmethod ZipInfo.from_file().

Together, these changes make it much easier to control how a file is written to 
a zip file, like this:

zi = ZipInfo.from_file(blah)
# ... manipulate zi...
with open(blah, 'rb') as src, zf.open(zi, 'w') as dest:
# copy of the read/write loop - maybe this should be
# pulled out separately as well?

If these changes make it in, I might put a backported copy of the module on 
PyPI so I can start using it without waiting for Python 3.6.

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[issue26039] More flexibility in zipfile interface

2016-01-15 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Attached is a first go at a patch enabling zipfile.open(blah, mode='w')

Files must be written sequentially, so you have to close one writing handle 
before opening another. If you try to open a second one before closing the 
first, it will raise RuntimeError. I considered doing something where it would 
write to temporary files and add them to the zip file when they were closed, 
but it seemed like a bad idea.

You can almost certainly break this by reading from a zip file while there's an 
open writing handle. Resolving this is tricky because there's a disconnect in 
the requirements for reading and writing: writing allows for a non-seekable 
output stream, but reading assumes that you can seek freely. The simplest fix 
is to block reading while there is an open file handle. I don't think many 
people will need to read one file from a zip while writing another, anyway.

I have used the lock, but I haven't thought carefully about thread safety, so 
that should still be checked carefully.

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[issue18595] zipfile: symlinks etc.

2016-01-15 Thread Thomas Kluyver

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[issue23936] Wrong references to deprecated find_module instead of find_spec

2015-12-04 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Thanks Brett :-)

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[issue23936] Wrong references to deprecated find_module instead of find_spec

2015-12-04 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Third revision of patch responding to Brett's suggestions.

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[issue23936] Wrong references to deprecated find_module instead of find_spec

2015-12-04 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

That's basically what I was aiming for. Should the description be briefer and 
more generic?

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[issue23936] Wrong references to deprecated find_module instead of find_spec

2015-12-04 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

Updated patch attached, responding to Martin's suggestions.

I'm not quite sure what to do about the 'finder' glossary entry. 'Finder' now 
seems to be a more abstract classification covering two distinct kinds of 
thing: *meta path finders* and *path entry finders*. They have similar methods 
(find_spec, find_module), but with slightly different signatures. Is 'finder' a 
sufficiently meaningful concept to remain in the glossary, or should we take it 
out and be explicit about what type of finder is meant elsewhere in the docs?

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[issue23936] Wrong references to deprecated find_module instead of find_spec

2015-12-03 Thread Thomas Kluyver

Thomas Kluyver added the comment:

I also ran into confusion with this while trying to write an import hook.

Attached is my shot at a docs patch. I've done a slightly larger rewording, 
trying to make it easier to understand, and added more links between parts of 
the docs.

I left mentions of the deprecated find_module and find_loader methods in the 
'finder' glossary entry, but for sys.meta_path I have only described 
find_spec() - it does still fall back to the deprecated methods, but I thought 
that trying to explain that would make the description of meta_path harder to 
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[issue25078] Document InstallAllUsers installer parameter default 0

2015-09-12 Thread Thomas Kluyver

New submission from Thomas Kluyver:

In testing the 3.5.0rc4 default installer, I found that the default for 
InstallAllUsers appears to be 0, whereas it's currently documented as 1.

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title: Document InstallAllUsers installer parameter default 0
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