[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Saimadhav Heblikar]

Saimadhav Heblikar added the comment:

Attached patch is an attempt to fix the issue, based on msg220332.

With this patch, and with IDLE Classic Unix keybinding selected in IDLE,
actions like cut=Control-Key-w, redo=Alt-Key-z Meta-Key-z, and emac's 
style actions like open-new-window=Control-Key-xControl-Key-n,
can be performed by just pressing the respective keys, irrespective of CAPS.

I would like to know if this patch is acceptable and whether it performs as 
expected on all platforms.

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

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Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file35590/keybinding-issue12387-v1.diff

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

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Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file35591/keybinding-issue12387-v1.diff

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

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Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file35591/keybinding-issue12387-v1.diff

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

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Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file35592/keybinding-issue12387-v1.diff

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Roundup Robot]

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset 55fed3eae14b by Terry Jan Reedy in branch '2.7':
Issue #12387: Add missing upper(lower)case versions of default Windows key
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/55fed3eae14b

New changeset 25fd9aeeff91 by Terry Jan Reedy in branch '3.4':
Issue #12387: Add missing upper(lower)case versions of default Windows key
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/25fd9aeeff91

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

I pushed Roger's patch so that the Windows section of config-keys.def is in a 
consistent state. However, this does not fix the problem for 
config-extensions.def or user versions of config-keys.def. A) The basic method 
of the key dialog does not allow entry of proper pairs. B) it is easy to forget 
to enter both versions when using the advanced method or editing a file 
directly.

So rather than develop a similar patch for the Unix block, which is always 
missing the uppercase version of key-bindings, our GSOC student will work on 
code to add the 'other' version when alpha key-bindings are read. If and when 
that works, the Unix block will work as is and the Windows block can have 
removed what will then become duplicates.

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

Reading the Tk Wiki page, it appears that Shift undoes ShiftLock except on Mac, 
where it does nothing. So there is effectively only ^a and ^A, etc.

Looking as the Get New Keys dialog, the Basic Key Binding Entry pane says New 
keys .. plural, but as far as I can tell, only one new key can be entered. 
Moreover, Control-Key-a and Control-Shift-Key-A are possible, but not 
Control-Key-A. The latter is only possible with hand entry in the Advanced Key 
Binding Entry pane. This might be why some functions have a single key binding 
and some both. Perhaps the dialog should auto-augment Control-Key-x with 
Control-Key-X, where x is a lowercase letter.

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Terry J. Reedy]

Changes by Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu:


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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Westley Martínez]

Westley Martínez added the comment:

I know that Tk has individual states for whether or not a key is pressed with 
Caps Lock or Shift or other modifiers, so maybe there is a way to have the 
shortcuts ignore Caps Lock entirely.

More info: 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/665502/status-of-shift-and-caps-lock-in-python

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Ned Deily]

Ned Deily added the comment:

See also Modifier Keys on the Tk Wiki:
http://wiki.tcl.tk/28331

There are both deliberate and accidental platform-specific behavior differences 
among Tk implementations.

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Roger Serwy]

Roger Serwy roger.se...@gmail.com added the comment:

Attached is a patch to fix the caps-lock issue with Windows key bindings in 
config-keys.def.

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Roger Serwy]

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:

Changes look complete and correct as far as I can tell, except that I have some 
confusion about the relation of Shift and CapsLock key. For instance, Control-C 
and Control-Shift-C (using the key labels) both interrupt a loop whether or not 
CapsLock is on. In all, 4 combinations work even though only 2 are listed.
 interrupt-execution=Control-Key-c Control-Key-C

However, this pair of specifications
+save-window-as-file=Control-Shift-Key-S Control-Shift-Key-s
+save-window=Control-Key-s Control-Key-S
only makes sense to me if 's' and 'S' refer to the 'S' key without and with 
CapLock on as using Shift is meant to give a different meaning. It appears to 
split the 4 combinations into 2 pairs that do different things.

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Roger Serwy]

Roger Serwy roger.se...@gmail.com added the comment:

I can confirm this issue on Linux.

This issue is caused by not explicitly binding Control-Key-S to 
save-window in config-keys.def (and in configHandler.py's GetCoreKeys.) 
Presently, only Control-key-s binds to save-window.

Should all the lowercase bindings without uppercase bindings be changed, or 
should only a few be changed?

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Raymond Hettinger]

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I would like to see them all changed.

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:

I agree; lets be consistently lenient.

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Jacob VB]

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Jacob VB]

Jacob VB jacob.andrew...@gmail.com added the comment:

IDLE (for Python 3.2) fails to save using the ctrl-s keyboard shortcut when 
caps-lock is enabled, and instead only saves when ctrl-shift-s is pressed.
When caps-lock is disabled, all shortcuts work normally.

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[R. David Murray]

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:

(The message I deleted was a duplicate of the original).
Verified with 3.2.0 on WinXP (Jacob, I/O issues, including keyboard, especially 
need system specified. What is yours? If Windows, this might be 
Windows-specific.)

With CAPS LOCK on, Cntl-N, Cntl-O, Cntl-P, Alt-M, Alt-C work.
Cntl-S, Cntl-Shift-S, Alt-Shift-S, Cntl-Q do not.
(All of above from File menu). So behavior is variable.

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[issue12387] IDLE save keyboard shortcut problem

[Jacob VB]

Jacob VB jacob.andrew...@gmail.com added the comment:

I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, on an Alienware M17x (a laptop) 
using the built-in keyboard.

It's definitely possible that the problem is Windows-specific; perhaps it has 
to do with the fact that when caps lock is on the shift modifier seems to 
invert the case back to lowercase; although I don't know how it would affect it 
in that way.

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