[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Mark Lawrence]

Mark Lawrence added the comment:

The mvl proposal fine by me too, thanks guys.

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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Chris Jerdonek]

Chris Jerdonek added the comment:

That proposal sounds fine to me.

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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Martin v . Löwis]

Martin v. Löwis added the comment:

Ah, I missed that.

I'm skeptical that the proposed change is an improvement - how would the reader 
know how to find version 1.12 of the document? I'm also skeptical that removal 
of the note in 2.7 is useful: people finding the document in Google would 
misunderstand.

My proposal: "This version of the document talks about Unicode support in 
Python 2.x. See  for the Python 3 version."

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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Chris Jerdonek]

Chris Jerdonek added the comment:

> 3.x doesn't contain the language mentioned by the original commenter.

3.2 onwards I mean.

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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Chris Jerdonek]

Chris Jerdonek added the comment:

> I don't think there is a need to update the 3.1.x version of the 
> documentation in that respect.
> versions: +Python 3.3, Python 3.4 -Python 3.1

This issue was just about the 2.7 version.  3.x doesn't contain the language 
mentioned by the original commenter.  If 2.7 should not be changed, this issue 
should be closed.  Or are you suggesting other updates to the 3.x docs?

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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Ezio Melotti]

Changes by Ezio Melotti :


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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Mark Lawrence]

Mark Lawrence added the comment:

See also #4153

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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Martin v . Löwis]

Martin v. Löwis added the comment:

Before the disclaimer can be removed, all statements of the document should be 
reviewed. From a shallow glance, the section on "Python 2.x's support" should 
be changed to "Python's support". The reference to Marc-Andre Lemburg's 
presentation should be removed, as it's not current anymore.

The 2.7 version of the document is fine as it stands; it indeed doesn't talk 
about 3.x.

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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Martin v . Löwis]

Martin v. Löwis added the comment:

I don't think there is a need to update the 3.1.x version of the documentation 
in that respect.

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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Mark Lawrence]

Mark Lawrence added the comment:

I'd happily settle on seeing this historical note removed from the 2.7.3 docs.  
I'm unsure about the best approach for 3.1.5.  Who's done the most work on 
unicode to answer this one, someone working on #16061 possibly?

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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Chris Jerdonek]

Chris Jerdonek added the comment:

I wonder why the note must be there at all.  None of the 2.x docs have been 
updated to cover the 3.x versions of Python.  Otherwise, every 2.x page could 
use such a disclaimer.

Here is where the note was added:

http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/bdef454f7212

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[issue16227] Change unicode howtos as misleading

[Mark Lawrence]

New submission from Mark Lawrence:

For http://docs.python.org/howto/unicode.html (that's Python 2.7.3) and 
http://docs.python.org/release/3.1.5/howto/unicode.html the first paragraph 
states "(This HOWTO has not yet been updated to cover the 3.x versions of 
Python.)".  I suggest this is changed to read something like "Release 1.12 
onwards of this document covers the 3.2 Python versions onwards."

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components: Documentation
messages: 172865
nosy: BreamoreBoy, docs@python
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: Change unicode howtos as misleading
type: enhancement
versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2

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