[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-11 Thread Michael Foord 

Michael Foord added the comment:

If the consensus is that Python documentation should not include explicit 
object inheritance then fine to update mock docs accordingly. The backport docs 
will still use it as they are for Python 2 as well.

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-11 Thread Ezio Melotti 

Ezio Melotti added the comment:

Fixed, thanks for the patch!

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status: open -> closed

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-11 Thread Roundup Robot 

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset 4f745f7d6fca by Ezio Melotti in branch '3.2':
#17351: remove "object" inheritance from docs.  Patch by Phil Elson.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4f745f7d6fca

New changeset 8b1d3fa3b389 by Ezio Melotti in branch '3.3':
#17351: merge with 3.2.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/8b1d3fa3b389

New changeset b10a9d4f08eb by Ezio Melotti in branch 'default':
#17351: merge with 3.3.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/b10a9d4f08eb

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-10 Thread Terry J. Reedy 

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

My rationale for supporting removal is this: People beginning with Py3, which 
is most beginners in the next decade, seeing (object), might think it necessary 
in certain cases or that it does something. The descriptor how-to is a) 
advanced and b) can have a note if needed. People who know Py2 might get a 
wrong idea either way, but should read some 2 to 3 guide and then will know. If 
a choice be needed, I would rather cater to future Python learners.

Anyway, we only need Michael's word to know for sure which to patch, or can go 
ahead without touching mock-examples.

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-10 Thread Éric Araujo 

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-10 Thread Éric Araujo 

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-10 Thread Éric Araujo 

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-10 Thread Éric Araujo 

Éric Araujo added the comment:

Disregard my comments, I reread only the start of the thread and missed the 
discussion about the descriptor tutorial.

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-10 Thread Éric Araujo 

Éric Araujo added the comment:

The changeset redirector seems broken, here’s the full link: 
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/5eca56b68840

FTR I am still in favor of removal regardless of the possible issues I noted in 
my previous comment.

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-10 Thread Éric Araujo 

Éric Araujo added the comment:

Note that removing the unnecessary '(object)' may make it worse for e.g. 
beginners going from 3.x to 2.x, and slightly complicate porting patches.  
Raymond approves the removal, yet added '(object)' in a 3.3 doc file in 
5eca56b68840

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-10 Thread Andrew Svetlov 

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[issue17351] Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 3 docs

2013-03-10 Thread Raymond Hettinger 

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title: Fixed python3 descriptor documentation example + removal of explicit 
"object" inheritance in docs -> Remove explicit "object" inheritance in Python 
3 docs

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