[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-11 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Assigning to myself for final review and commit :)

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-11 Thread Nick Coghlan

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I'm also going to start creating the implementation issues for the installer 
and pyvenv updates.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-11 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

The inconsistency between altinstall and default_install bothered me, so I plan 
to change the spelling of the latter option to default_pip (since it directly 
controls whether or not the pip script gets installed).

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-11 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 6a6b1ee306e3 by Nick Coghlan in branch 'default':
Close #19406: Initial implementation of ensurepip
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/6a6b1ee306e3

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-11 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Aside from the default-install - default-pip name change, the other 
fixes/changes between Donald's last patch and the committed version:

- added the missing docs for the new options
- updated What's New, ACKS, NEWS
- avoided repetition in the test code by using setUp and addCleanUp 
appropriately (this also prevented the earlier tests from altering os.environ)
- marked the .whl as binary in .hgeol

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-10 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Donald, I know you've been busy with PyPI v2.0 the last few days, but I see the 
pull request to resolve https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1294 has been merged.

If we can get an updated patch that sets ENSUREPIP_OPTIONS appropriately in the 
process environment, it should be possible to commit this one and let Ned and 
Martin get started on the installers.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-10 Thread Donald Stufft

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* Updated setuptools
* Updated pip to the latest development snapshot
* Installs default to installing easy_install-X.Y, pipX, and pipX.Y
* Added --altinstall which only installs easy_install-X.Y and pipX.Y
* Added --default-install which installs easy_install, easy_install-X.Y, pip, 
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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-04 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

I created https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1294 for the script versioning 
issue on the pip side, as I'd prefer not to be doing the temporary directory 
dance if we don't need to.

How do we want to handle this for beta 1? Is it OK to do an initial commit that 
has the installation of non-versioned scripts as a known defect so we can make 
progress on the rest of the changes in the meantime?

Alternatively, we could perhaps tweak the embedded wheels as an interim fix 
until the problem is addressed upstream.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-04 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

Tweaking the Wheels won't work. The scripts are generated at install time.

We need to fix it in pip, I was waiting on answers to 
http://bugs.python.org/issue19406#msg201954 before coming up with a solution 
and making a PR request as that will influence the proposal/PR I make to pip. 
Basically we need to figure out what is considered reasonable during the 
initial ensurepip, and subsequent pip install --upgrade pip.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-04 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

I'm OK with an unqualified pip install --upgrade pip retaining pip's current 
behaviour of always writing the unqualified script versions.

However, running pip3 install --upgrade pip would ideally leave the pip and 
easy_install scripts alone.

For make altinstall compatibility, we definitely need a --altinstall flag 
that only installs the fully qualified versions of pip and easy_install.

Finally, there needs to be some way to explicitly request the pip3 style 
behaviour when running via -m so we can use it from ensurepip.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-01 Thread Ned Deily

Ned Deily added the comment:

Here are my review comments (sorry, no Rietveld):

ensurepip/__init__.py
-

Why have the separate _run_pip function?  It would be simpler and less 
confusing to just merge run_pip into bootstrap and eliminate the extra for 
loop.  Both depend on the _PROJECTS list anyway. --  Ah, I see that the reason 
for the separation is for mocking purposes in test_ensurepip.  How about 
constructing the list of paths to insert in bootstrap and passing that as the 
new second argument to _run_pip.  Then the knowledge about the wheel names is 
only in one place.


test_ensurepip.py
-

s/bootsraping/bootsrapping/g


checkpip.py
---

It would be useful if checkpip.py returned an non-zero exit status in the case 
any projects are out-of-date.


Makefile.pre.in
---

Need to add ensurepip and ensurepip/_bundled to LIBSUBDIRS so that they are 
installed.


ensurepip/_bundeled
---

The actual wheel files are not in the patch.  For other reviewers, Donald 
pointed me to their source here:
https://github.com/dstufft/cpython/blob/ensurepip/Lib/ensurepip/_bundled/


Using those wheels, which, as Donald notes, are preliminary (especially the 
setuptools one), I did some installs using a non-standard --prefix for python.  
Here are the contents of the bin directory (what would be installed into 
/usr/local/bin by default) after make altinstall.

$ ls -l bin
total 18760
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd  110 Nov  1 15:08 2to3-3.4*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd  108 Nov  1 15:08 idle3.4*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd   93 Nov  1 15:08 pydoc3.4*
-rwxr-xr-x  2 nad  pyd  4791296 Nov  1 15:08 python3.4*
-rwxr-xr-x  2 nad  pyd  4791296 Nov  1 15:08 python3.4dm*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd 2041 Nov  1 15:08 python3.4dm-config*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd  245 Nov  1 15:08 pyvenv-3.4*

Now after python3.4 --ensurepip is run:

-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd110 Nov  1 15:08 2to3-3.4*
-rw-r-  1 nad  pyd687 Nov  1 15:19 easy_install
-rw-r-  1 nad  staff  355 Nov  1 15:19 easy_install-3.3.pya
-rw-r-  1 nad  pyd687 Nov  1 15:19 easy_install-3.4
-rw-r-  1 nad  staff  347 Nov  1 15:19 easy_install.pya
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd108 Nov  1 15:08 idle3.4*
-rw-r-  1 nad  pyd659 Nov  1 15:19 pip
-rw-r-  1 nad  pyd659 Nov  1 15:19 pip3
-rw-r-  1 nad  pyd659 Nov  1 15:19 pip3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd 93 Nov  1 15:08 pydoc3.4*
-rwxr-xr-x  2 nad  pyd4791296 Nov  1 15:08 python3.4*
-rwxr-xr-x  2 nad  pyd4791296 Nov  1 15:08 python3.4dm*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd   2041 Nov  1 15:08 python3.4dm-config*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd245 Nov  1 15:08 pyvenv-3.4*

Now after make install is run:

lrwxr-x---  1 nad  pyd  8 Nov  1 15:21 2to3@ - 2to3-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd110 Nov  1 15:21 2to3-3.4*
-rw-r-  1 nad  pyd687 Nov  1 15:19 easy_install
-rw-r-  1 nad  staff  355 Nov  1 15:19 easy_install-3.3.pya
-rw-r-  1 nad  pyd687 Nov  1 15:19 easy_install-3.4
-rw-r-  1 nad  staff  347 Nov  1 15:19 easy_install.pya
lrwxr-x---  1 nad  pyd  7 Nov  1 15:21 idle3@ - idle3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd108 Nov  1 15:21 idle3.4*
-rw-r-  1 nad  pyd659 Nov  1 15:19 pip
-rw-r-  1 nad  pyd659 Nov  1 15:19 pip3
-rw-r-  1 nad  pyd659 Nov  1 15:19 pip3.4
lrwxr-x---  1 nad  pyd  8 Nov  1 15:21 pydoc3@ - pydoc3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd 93 Nov  1 15:21 pydoc3.4*
lrwxr-x---  1 nad  pyd  9 Nov  1 15:21 python3@ - python3.4
lrwxr-x---  1 nad  pyd 16 Nov  1 15:21 python3-config@ - 
python3.4-config
-rwxr-xr-x  2 nad  pyd4791296 Nov  1 15:20 python3.4*
lrwxr-x---  1 nad  pyd 18 Nov  1 15:21 python3.4-config@ - 
python3.4dm-config
-rwxr-xr-x  2 nad  pyd4791296 Nov  1 15:20 python3.4dm*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd   2041 Nov  1 15:21 python3.4dm-config*
lrwxr-x---  1 nad  pyd 10 Nov  1 15:21 pyvenv@ - pyvenv-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 nad  pyd245 Nov  1 15:21 pyvenv-3.4*

The problem I see here is that pip is unconditionally installing both a pip and 
a pip3 script along with the versioned script (pip3.4).  Setuptools also has 
the same issue (along with the wonky .pya scripts which I think should be 
Windows only).  For system installs, pip, setuptools, and ensurepip should 
support the equivalent of altinstall and install options, with the former 
only installing fully-versioned names and the latter adding 3 names and, to 
be consistent, neither should install the totally unversioned links for Python 
3, so no pip or easy_install.  Third-party packagers solve the conflict 
between Py2 and Py3 scripts in various ways, like providing some administrative 
command (e.g. debian update-alternatives or Macports port select).  For 
virtual environments, the user has complete control over the bin directory and 
the current behavior of pip and easy_install is OK 

[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-01 Thread Ned Deily

Ned Deily added the comment:

I suppose the changes could be isolated to just ensurepip if it used a 
temporary dir for the scripts and then moved the appropriate ones itself to the 
standard scripts directory.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-01 Thread Ned Deily

Ned Deily added the comment:

Just for the record, here's what the installed ./lib/python3.4/site-packages 
looks like after ensurepip has run:

-rw-r--r--  1 nad  pyd   119 Nov  1 15:20 README
drwxr-x---  2 nad  pyd   204 Nov  1 15:21 __pycache__/
drwxr-x---  3 nad  pyd   170 Nov  1 15:21 _markerlib/
-rw-r-  1 nad  staff 126 Nov  1 15:19 easy_install.py
drwxr-x---  7 nad  pyd   782 Nov  1 15:21 pip/
drwxr-x---  2 nad  pyd   306 Nov  1 15:19 pip-1.5.dev1.dist-info/
-rw-r-  1 nad  staff  101430 Nov  1 15:19 pkg_resources.py
drwxr-x---  6 nad  pyd  1020 Nov  1 15:21 setuptools/
drwxr-x---  2 nad  pyd   374 Nov  1 15:19 setuptools-1.1.6.dist-info/

And, within pip/_vendor, the following additional projects are installed:

-rw-r-  1 nad  staff266 Nov  1 15:19 __init__.py
drwxr-x---  2 nad  pyd  272 Nov  1 15:21 __pycache__/
drwxr-x---  3 nad  pyd  306 Nov  1 15:21 colorama/
drwxr-x---  4 nad  pyd  714 Nov  1 15:21 distlib/
drwxr-x---  8 nad  pyd  544 Nov  1 15:21 html5lib/
-rw-r-  1 nad  staff773 Nov  1 15:19 re-vendor.py
drwxr-x---  4 nad  pyd  646 Nov  1 15:21 requests/
-rw-r-  1 nad  staff  12415 Nov  1 15:19 six.py

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-01 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

The .pya thing is an experimental extension type that setuptools added that 
just got missed during the new features to generate scripts during wheel 
install vs wheel build time. I opened a bug to remove that and it'll be gone 
before 1.5 is released.

I can fix the typos and add those to the Makefile.pre.in.

I agree the versioned scripts need some sort of resolution, I'm not entirely 
sure what that resolution is. This is coming from pip itself so it's not 
specific to ensurepip. So there are 4 cases that pip needs to handle.

1) Installation via the original bootstrapping methods into a pre Python 3.4 
Python, including a 2.x Python.
2) Installation via ensurepip in Python 3.4+
3) Installation via easy_install
4) Installation via pip install --upgrade pip

So there's obviously a number of solutions that solve the problem in 
specifically the ensurepip case (adding a flag, temporary directory, etc). What 
I wonder is:

A) Is it considered reasonable that if someone installs pip with ensurepip, but 
then later upgrades it with ``pip install --upgrade pip`` that they'll get 
typical pip behavior of installing pip, pipX, and pipX.Y or is this believed 
to be something that fundamentally needs to change in pip?
B) What about in cases where there is *not* a third party distributor, is it 
reasonable that if there isn't already a ``pip`` command that pip would provide 
it, but if there is a pip command already pip *won't* ?

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-01 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

Oh one thing, I can't move anything out of _run_pip because the part you're 
referring to is actually modifying the sys.path. If I move it then I can't 
prevent the tests from having side effects.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-01 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

Oh nevermind, I understand now. I misread the statement. I can do that.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-01 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

Attached is the second combined2 patch with Ned's feedback incorporated.

For anyone testing this the patch does not contain the binary files which can 
be found at 
https://github.com/dstufft/cpython/blob/ensurepip/Lib/ensurepip/_bundled/.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-01 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

The install everything approach is OK for Windows and virtual
environments. The challenge is the shared bin directories on *nix systems.

Perhaps pip itself could be updated such that it installs the bare pip
only if sys.executable matches shutil.which(python)? At the very least,
ensurepip should work that way, but setuptools actually has the same
problem with respect to easy_install.

Also, if we do the temp directory workaround then we need to copy and then
delete the original rather than move (otherwise the file context will be
wrong under SELinux)

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-11-01 Thread Ned Deily

Ned Deily added the comment:

Without digging deeper, I'd be a little cautious about using a test involving 
sys.executable and shutil.which.  sys.executable in the past at least was not 
always what you might think in certain cases with OS X framework installs.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-31 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Added most of the nosy list from the tracking issue 19347.

Updated draft docs. I believe this version of the module docs should be 
complete (since the installation guide updates are covered by issue 19407).

While Donald's attached patch is incomplete, the version on GitHub looks 
basically ready to go (aside from --root not working when running pip from a 
wheel file): https://github.com/dstufft/cpython/compare/ensurepip

Shall we proceed with the commit based on the currently available pip, so 
Martin and Ned can get started on the installer updates?

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-31 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

For what it's worth I can get --root ready to go shortly, I have a patch 
against pip for it (https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/1272) I just need to write 
some tests to ensure it keeps working. Let me go off and do that right now.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-31 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

I also need to update the bundled Wheel to one that was created with Python 3.4 
instead of 2.7 (which matters until the fix for 
https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1067 which is 
https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/1251 lands). That fixes the issue where the 
wheel will have pip2, and pip2.7 baked into it.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-31 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

Ok, merged in the --root fix to pip and created a Wheel using Python 3.4 (which 
I installed the Wheel distribution using an ensurepip installed pip ;) ).

Updated on github and a patch added, all outstanding issues that affect this 
patch exist on the pip side of things. Primarily 
https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1067 which, since I created the new pip 
wheel using 3.4, only affects this patch in that setuptools is still version 
specific. This'll be fixed soon in pip.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-31 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Donald, could you upload an updated patch here that includes both your changes 
and my docs updates?

We'll give people a day to look it over, and then go ahead and commit it and 
create the tracker issues to update pyvenv/venv and the Mac OS X and Windows 
installers.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-31 Thread Donald Stufft

Changes by Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io:


Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file32446/combined.diff

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-31 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

There you go Nick.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-27 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Draft docs patch attached. This splits out a new Software Packaging and 
Distribution section in the main docs index, with distutils, ensurepip and 
venv as the specific entries.

There's a couple of questions I need answered regarding the behaviour of pip in 
order to document --user properly:

* how does pip install react when --user is passed while a virtual environment 
is active?
* how does pip install react when both --root and --user are passed?

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-27 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

You cannot use --user in a virtual environment (well a venv, no idea about a 
pyvenv - but it should get a similar error message IMO if it doesn't).

If you use --root and --user together it will install to the --root location, 
using the user layout, so instead of installing to 
/home/dstufft/.local/lib/python3.4/site-packages/ it will install to 
/value/of/root/home/dstufft/.local/lib/python3.4/site-packages/

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-26 Thread Nick Coghlan

New submission from Nick Coghlan:

Adding the initial ensurepip implementation and module docs

(the Installing Python Modules updates will be handled in a separate issue)

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assignee: dstufft
components: Library (Lib)
messages: 201342
nosy: dstufft, larry, ncoghlan
priority: release blocker
severity: normal
status: open
title: PEP 453: add the ensurepip module
versions: Python 3.4

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-26 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Issue 19347 tracks overall PEP 453 implementation progress

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-26 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Issue 19437 tracks overall PEP 453 implementation progress

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-26 Thread Nick Coghlan

Changes by Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com:


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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-26 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

Attached is an initial rough draft of the ensurepip module. There are some 
issues still, but they largely need resolved in pip.

1. Setuptools' use of dependency_links causes pip to still reach out to the 
internet.
2. Need to remove the --pre flag from the pip invocation once pip 1.5 is 
finalized
3. Need to fix the --root option when it's used on Wheels 
(https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/925)


If you prefer to view it on github my branch for working on it is available at 
https://github.com/dstufft/cpython/compare/ensurepip

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Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file32371/draft.diff

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-26 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

Added a second draft that handles the case when the stdlib isn't directly 
browseable (e.g. it's zipped up or something).

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-26 Thread Donald Stufft

Donald Stufft added the comment:

Added a third draft, this one adds the script to check if pip needs updated. 
I've removed the first two drafts to make it simpler.

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-26 Thread Donald Stufft

Changes by Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io:


Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file32371/draft.diff

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[issue19406] PEP 453: add the ensurepip module

2013-10-26 Thread Donald Stufft

Changes by Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io:


Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file32373/draft2.diff

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