[issue19792] pathlib does not support symlink in Windows XP

2015-02-19 Thread Mark Lawrence

Mark Lawrence added the comment:

I've read the entire issue and don't believe there's anything to be done here. 
Plus the originator says in msg204557 But anyway feel free to close this 
ticket.

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[issue19792] pathlib does not support symlink in Windows XP

2015-02-19 Thread Steve Dower

Steve Dower added the comment:

Sounds good to me.

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status: open - closed

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[issue19792] pathlib does not support symlink in Windows XP

2013-11-27 Thread Brian Curtin

Brian Curtin added the comment:

If a platform does not actually support symlinks, and XP does not actually 
support symlinks for any usual definition of an operating system supporting a 
feature, then I'm not sure why pathlib is doing something wrong to make it work 
more reasonably in that case.

os.symlink is a NotImplementedError on Windows versions prior to Vista 
because the Windows API doesn't support CreateSymbolicLink. It doesn't make 
sense to just let the code try to run for all versions on all platforms but be 
wrapped in a try/catch block for the NotImplementedError.

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[issue19792] pathlib does not support symlink in Windows XP

2013-11-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou added the comment:

The 2.7-compatible version of pathlib explains why the code is structured this 
way:

if sys.getwindowsversion()[:2] = (6, 0) and sys.version_info = (3, 2):
from nt import _getfinalpathname
else:
supports_symlinks = False
_getfinalpathname = None


In the stdlib version, I removed the `sys.version_info = (3, 2)` and so it may 
look like as easy to rely on os.symlink raising NotImplementedError. That would 
make merging back more difficult, though, so I'd rather keep it like that.

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[issue19792] pathlib does not support symlink in Windows XP

2013-11-26 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou added the comment:

 Also, how many people uses pathlib in Python 3.4 in Windows XP with
 third-party drivers enabling symbolic link support? Should be small.

I've never heard of third-party driver for symlink link support before 
(granted, I'm not a Windows user). I'm willing to bet that this is a niche 
situation indeed, so I'm not very warm for tweaking pathlib around it.

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[issue19792] pathlib does not support symlink in Windows XP

2013-11-26 Thread Brian Curtin

Brian Curtin added the comment:

If users want to do that hack to get symlinks on XP, they should probably just 
manage doing so on their own. It's not something we'd take care of installing 
and running via our installer, so I don't think pathlib should be changed to 
work for it.

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[issue19792] pathlib does not support symlink in Windows XP

2013-11-26 Thread Vajrasky Kok

Vajrasky Kok added the comment:

I agree we should not go extra mile to add feature for Windows XP, a 12 year 
old software and soon to be put down a couple months forward.

But in this case, Antoine goes extra mile to prevent symbolic link support in 
Windows XP. And it's not just him that has this kind of reasoning. Django 
developers put this code which is similar with pathlib.

django/contrib/staticfiles/management/commands/collectstatic.py

if self.symlink:
if sys.platform == 'win32':
raise CommandError(Symlinking is not supported by this 
   platform (%s). % sys.platform)
if not self.local:
raise CommandError(Can't symlink to a remote destination.)

I opened this ticket because I am curious why developers go extra mile to 
prevent symbolic link support in certain platform. Why not just let os.symlink 
does the job and propagate the error from there? What is the virtue of not 
letting os.symlink decides who gets the symbolic link support? Surely in 
Windows XP (without 3rd party driver) os.symlink will throws exception and how 
that differs from throwing exception in pathlib library?

But anyway feel free to close this ticket. I think I'll just copy Antoine's 
checking in solving this Django's bug:
https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/21482

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[issue19792] pathlib does not support symlink in Windows XP

2013-11-25 Thread Vajrasky Kok

New submission from Vajrasky Kok:

In Lib/pathlib.py, we got this problematic code:

 if sys.getwindowsversion()[:2] = (6, 0):
 from nt import _getfinalpathname
 else:
 supports_symlinks = False
 _getfinalpathname = None

This code means if the windows version is less than Windows NT 6, then we 
disable symlink support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT_6.0

Windows NT 6.0 includes Vista, Server 2008. In other word, Windows XP is less 
than Windows NT 6.0.

Actually, we can add symbolic link support for Windows XP.
http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html#symboliclinksforwindowsxp

Attached the patch to add symbolic link support for Windows XP in pathlib.

Actually, if this ticket is made invalid, I don't care anyway. Windows XP will 
die on 8th April 2014.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help

Also, how many people uses pathlib in Python 3.4 in Windows XP with third-party 
drivers enabling symbolic link support? Should be small.

I am interested in this problem because I have the same problem in Django.
https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/21482
On the proposed pull request, I let the os.symlink takes care whether we have 
symbolic link support or not.

But I may copy Antoine's approach to Django's bug.

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components: Library (Lib)
files: add_symlink_support_for_windows_xp.patch
keywords: patch
messages: 204458
nosy: pitrou, vajrasky
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: pathlib does not support symlink in Windows XP
type: behavior
versions: Python 3.4
Added file: 
http://bugs.python.org/file32851/add_symlink_support_for_windows_xp.patch

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