[issue20071] What should happen if someone runs ./python -m ensurepip in the build environment?

2014-09-08 Thread Ned Deily

Changes by Ned Deily n...@acm.org:


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[issue20071] What should happen if someone runs ./python -m ensurepip in the build environment?

2014-09-08 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

The whole sys.path initialisation scheme is pretty broken when running from a 
source checkout, so the short answer is it won't work, and it isn't really 
fixable in a maintenance release.

System Python 3:

sys.path = [
'/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k',
'/usr/lib64/python33.zip',
'/usr/lib64/python3.3',
'/usr/lib64/python3.3/plat-linux',
'/usr/lib64/python3.3/lib-dynload',
'/home/ncoghlan/.local/lib/python3.3/site-packages',
'/usr/lib64/python3.3/site-packages',
'/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages',
]

My source checkout:

sys.path = [
'/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k',
'/usr/local/lib/python35.zip',
'/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Lib',
'/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Lib/plat-linux', 
'/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/build/lib.linux-x86_64-3.5',
'/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules',
'/home/ncoghlan/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages',
]   
 

We should probably have an explicit check for that in ensurepip so it bails out 
as an unsupported operation rather than doing something weird. Looking in 
sys.path for os.path.join(os.path.dirname(sys.executable), 'Lib') should be a 
fairly reliable indicator that we're running from a source checkout.

Actually *fixing* it to do something sensible would require a lot of work on 
the sys.path initialisation code, and I frankly consider that impractical given 
the current state of getpath.c.

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[issue20071] What should happen if someone runs ./python -m ensurepip in the build environment?

2014-09-08 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Note that if I find time to implement the startup sequence redesign for PEP 
432/issue #22257 (which is finally starting to look like it may actually happen 
some time in the next few months), a proper fix may end up being possible for 
3.5.

We shouldn't bet on that, though, and the explicit failure is definitely the 
best we'll be able to do for 3.4 and the 2.7 backport.

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[issue20071] What should happen if someone runs ./python -m ensurepip in the build environment?

2013-12-26 Thread R. David Murray

New submission from R. David Murray:

Someone on IRC reported doing this, and it (logically enough) gave a permission 
error trying to install into /opt.  That may be exactly what it should do...but 
if he'd done it as root, presumably it would have tried to install PIP without 
python having been installed first, which might be wrong.

(Donald says it would indeed install it, creating the directories as needed.)

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