[issue22935] Disabling SSLv3 support
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset a8c4925e2359 by Victor Stinner in branch '3.4': Issue #20896, #22935: The ssl.get_server_certificate() function now uses the https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a8c4925e2359 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: Ok, I commited my change to Python 3.4. I'm now waiting for the following buildbot before closing the issue: http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Tiger%203.4 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: I'm now waiting for the following buildbot before closing the issue: http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Tiger%203.4 Before my change, test_ssl because with NameError: name 'PROTOCOL_SSLv3' is not defined. With my change, test_ssl now pass. I close the issue. Python 2.7, 3.4 and 3.5 all now have the same behaviour. -- resolution: - fixed status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Changes by Berker Peksag berker.pek...@gmail.com: -- stage: needs patch - resolved ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Ned Deily added the comment: Setting to release blocker since this needs to be resolved for 3.4.3. FYI, the OS X x86 Tiger 3.4 buildbot has been updated to use a local copy of OpenSSL 1.0.1j with SSLv3 disabled and multiple tests now fail (2.7 and default do not fail, as expected). http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Tiger%203.4 -- nosy: +larry priority: high - release blocker ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: I'm going to commit get_server_certificate_sslv23.patch into Python 3.4, so Python 3.4 will just behave like Python 2.7 and 3.5, except if someone complains :-) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Ned Deily added the comment: The changes for 3.4 are incomplete: import ssl Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module File /py/dev/34/source/Lib/ssl.py, line 122, in module from _ssl import PROTOCOL_SSLv3, PROTOCOL_SSLv23, PROTOCOL_TLSv1 ImportError: cannot import name 'PROTOCOL_SSLv3' For the default (3.5) branch, f776771ab0ee for Issue21068 changed ssl.py to handle missing SSLv3 support; 3.4 needs something similar. -- resolution: fixed - stage: resolved - needs patch status: closed - open ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22935] Disabling SSLv3 support
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 773e55c95703 by Victor Stinner in branch '3.4': Issue #22935: Fix ssl module when SSLv3 protocol is not supported https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/773e55c95703 New changeset fb1ffd40d33e by Victor Stinner in branch 'default': Issue #22935: Fix test_ssl when the SSLv3 protocol is not supported https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/fb1ffd40d33e -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22935] Disabling SSLv3 support
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset f0297263a1e8 by Victor Stinner in branch '3.4': Issue #22935: Fix test_ssl when the SSLv3 protocol is not supported https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/f0297263a1e8 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: The changes for 3.4 are incomplete Ok, I fixed most obvious issues. There is a major severe issue in Lib/ssl.py: def get_server_certificate(addr, ssl_version=PROTOCOL_SSLv3, ca_certs=None): ... This line fails if PROTOCOL_SSLv3 name does not exist. I propose to use PROTOCOL_SSLv23 by default if PROTOCOL_SSLv3 does not exist, as done in Python 3.5. See attached patch. A better option (more secure?) is to use PROTOCOL_SSLv23 by default. What do you think? I prefer to switch to PROTOCOL_SSLv23 by default in Python 3.4. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file37423/get_server_certificate_sslv3.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: Oh, in Python 3.4, create_default_context() uses PROTOCOL_SSLv23, SSLSocket, wrap_socket() and _create_unverified_context() use PROTOCOL_SSLv23 by default. In Python 3.5, get_server_certificate() now uses PROTOCOL_SSLv23 by default because test_ssl failed on the host svn.python.org: see issue #20896. changeset: 90360:55f62fa5bebc user:Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net date:Wed Apr 16 18:56:28 2014 +0200 files: Doc/library/ssl.rst Lib/ssl.py Lib/test/test_ssl.py Misc/NEWS description: Issue #20896: ssl.get_server_certificate() now uses PROTOCOL_SSLv23, not PROTOCOL_SSLv3, for maximum compatibility. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: get_server_certificate_sslv23.patch: Patch to use PROTOCOL_SSLv23 by default in get_server_certificate(), as done in Python 2.7 and 3.5. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file37424/get_server_certificate_sslv23.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: Please always use PROTOCOL_SSLv23 since this is the only forward compatible way of telling OpenSSL to use the best protocol available. Any of the other options such as PROTOCOL_TLSv1 will fix the protocol version to that one protocol version, whereas PROTOCOL_SSLv23 means to use any protocol starting with SSLv2. In the context options you can then disable SSLv2 and SSLv3 to e.g. have the connection use TLS 1.0 or later. -- nosy: +lemburg ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Kurt Roeckx added the comment: So this seems to be a function that just gets the certificate? You need to be careful with this since a server could perfectly decide to send a different certificate depending on the client hello it receives. Like if you support ECDSA it might decide to send you the ECDSA certificate instead of the RSA certificate. Or maybe you're even connecting to a different IP address? In any case, you should always use SSLv23, stop supporting anything else. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: So this seems to be a function that just gets the certificate? You need to be careful with this since a server could perfectly decide to send a different certificate depending on the client hello it receives. (...) In any case, you should always use SSLv23, stop supporting anything else. I don't understand. You say that depending on the protocol, you may get a different certificate, and then that we should stop supporting multiple protocol. Does it mean that you ask to remove a Python feature? Even if it is technically possible to return a different certificate, I don't think that much servers will return a different certificate if the client uses SSLv23 instead of SSLv3. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: Any of the other options such as PROTOCOL_TLSv1 will fix the protocol version to that one protocol version, whereas PROTOCOL_SSLv23 means to use any protocol starting with SSLv2. In the context options you can then disable SSLv2 and SSLv3 to e.g. have the connection use TLS 1.0 or later. get_server_certificate() uses _create_unverified_context() (In Python 2.7, 3.4 3.5) which explicitly disable SSLv2 and SSLv3. I still have trouble to understand which protocol will be negociated. We use SSLv3 and disable SSLv3, so the server can only use SSLv23. Am I right? https://docs.python.org/dev/library/ssl.html#ssl.wrap_socket -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Kurt Roeckx added the comment: SSLv3 does not support the TLS extensions so it's going to send a totally different Client Hello. It will for instance not indicate with elliptic curves it supports. So yes the behavior for SSLv3 and SSLv23 can be totally different. But even with both SSLv23 and a different cipher list you can get a different certificate. So what I'm really saying is that if you have an API to get a certificate that creates a new connection and you can set the options for that connection too that you need to document that properly that you might get a different certificate. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: Do you have an example of server returning a different certificate depending on the protocol? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: STINNER Victor added the comment: Any of the other options such as PROTOCOL_TLSv1 will fix the protocol version to that one protocol version, whereas PROTOCOL_SSLv23 means to use any protocol starting with SSLv2. In the context options you can then disable SSLv2 and SSLv3 to e.g. have the connection use TLS 1.0 or later. get_server_certificate() uses _create_unverified_context() (In Python 2.7, 3.4 3.5) which explicitly disable SSLv2 and SSLv3. I still have trouble to understand which protocol will be negociated. We use SSLv3 and disable SSLv3, so the server can only use SSLv23. Am I right? https://docs.python.org/dev/library/ssl.html#ssl.wrap_socket I'm not sure what OpenSSL will do if you tell it to use protocol SSLv3 and then disable this via the options again. This sounds like it won't connect at all, since PROTOCOL_SSLv3 means: only support SSLv3 :-) The logic used for protocol selection in OpenSSL is, well, weird. You have the choice between fixing one single protocol version or selecting a range and then disabling certain protocol versions when configuring the context options. FWIW: The ssl_version parameter in _create_unverified_context() already uses the correct default; IMO, exposing the parameter in get_server_certificate() is fairly useless, unless you want to (ab)use the function to test supported protocol versions :-) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Kurt Roeckx added the comment: Most such sites actually seem to have dropped support for SSLv3. One site where it depends on the cipher string is bugs.cdburnerxp.se -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Kurt Roeckx added the comment: I did update the documentation to mention that, but it seems none of my documentation changes got applied. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: The documentation should be modified to explain that SSLv2 and SSLv3 are not always available. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 49d267a58cc2 by Benjamin Peterson in branch '2.7': allow ssl module to compile if openssl doesn't support SSL 3 (closes #22935) https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/49d267a58cc2 New changeset 4077e0cd8d48 by Benjamin Peterson in branch '3.4': allow ssl module to compile if openssl doesn't support SSL 3 (closes #22935) https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4077e0cd8d48 New changeset fbf3747e721c by Benjamin Peterson in branch 'default': merge 3.4 (#22935) https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/fbf3747e721c -- nosy: +python-dev resolution: - fixed stage: patch review - resolved status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Kurt Roeckx added the comment: I've just signed the contributor agreement -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Ned Deily added the comment: Clearly we need to support openssl's without SSLv3 so I think some version of this needs to be applied to all branches (preferably in time for 2.7.9, Benjamin?). Kurt, if you haven't already, could you sign the contributor agreement so we can use the patch (https://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-form/)? And I guess it would be nice to generalize the SSLv2 checks as doko suggests. -- components: +Build nosy: +benjamin.peterson, ned.deily priority: normal - high ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor added the comment: FYI LibreSSL also disabled SSLv2 and SSLv3. -- nosy: +haypo ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Matthias Klose added the comment: maybe it's time to generalise this one, still found on all branches: # Issue #9415: Ubuntu hijacks their OpenSSL and forcefully disables SSLv2 def skip_if_broken_ubuntu_ssl(func): -- nosy: +doko ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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New submission from Kurt Roeckx: Hi, The attached patch makes python work when openssl doesn't have SSLv3 support. It also updates the documentation, which has already improved a lot since my original patch. The current upstream openssl when compiled with no-ssl2 it defines OPENSSL_NO_SSL2, drops the SSLv2_* method and drops support for SSLv2 in the SSLv23_* methods. When build with no-ssl3 it defines OPENSSL_NO_SSL3 and currently just drops supports for SSLv3 in the SSLv23_method, it does not yet drop the SSLv3_* methods. It's still being argued whether no-ssl3 should drop those symbols or that a new option will be used instead. So that means that with OPENSSL_NO_SSL3 defined it could be that the SSLv3_* methods still exist and that you can create a socket that only support SSLv3. I made the SSLv3 methods go away in python if OPENSSL_NO_SSL3 is defined. This at least makes things easier for the test suite so that you know you can test a combination like v3 with v23 or not. This patch is for 2.7. Please let me know if you need a patch for a different version. -- files: python2.7-nossl3.patch keywords: patch messages: 231624 nosy: kroeckx priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Disabling SSLv3 support Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file37268/python2.7-nossl3.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Alex Gaynor added the comment: FWIW, Debian expiremental appears to be using a different #define for this. Here's how we handled it in pyca/cryptography: https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/commit/04a3f1f2c4086c0d7162b6dd79b6332d9115b2c0 -- nosy: +alex, christian.heimes, dstufft, giampaolo.rodola, janssen, pitrou ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Kurt Roeckx added the comment: I know what I uploaded to Debian experimental. And I can't promise that I'll keep that define. I suggest you assume that NO_SSL3 will disable both. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Alex Gaynor added the comment: Good to know, thanks. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Changes by Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr: -- stage: - patch review type: - compile error versions: +Python 2.7, Python 3.4, Python 3.5 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22935 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
