[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Raymond Hettinger]

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Raymond Hettinger]

Raymond Hettinger added the comment:


New changeset 73c915a5cd1cdd8775cf47b77fef7ca8fd42ad96 by Raymond Hettinger 
(Miss Islington (bot)) in branch '3.6':
[3.6] bpo-23702: Update Descriptor-HOWTO to reflect the removal of unbound 
methods (GH-3739) (#3742)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/73c915a5cd1cdd8775cf47b77fef7ca8fd42ad96


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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Raymond Hettinger]

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New changeset 0d4497b9cae7942b7f731a6f99a73985c3fb4630 by Raymond Hettinger in 
branch 'master':
bpo-23702: Update Descriptor-HOWTO to reflect the removal of unbound methods 
(#3739)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/0d4497b9cae7942b7f731a6f99a73985c3fb4630


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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Raymond Hettinger]

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Raymond Hettinger]

Raymond Hettinger added the comment:

We have a sprint in early September and I'll fix it then.

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Johannes Lade]

Johannes Lade added the comment:

And sorry for my lousy manners. Of course I appreciate all the hard work you 
do! It's just frustrating when you get confused by doc.

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Johannes Lade]

Johannes Lade added the comment:

This is still a problem. Can please somebody fix this? There are already enough 
confusing discussion full of wrong information about this topic, so it would be 
nice if the official documentation would get it right. Also there's multiple 
Issues for this. Can they be combined into one?
Just one example I found: on 
https://docs.python.org/3.5/howto/descriptor.html#functions-and-methods

Documentation:
>>> class D(object):
... def f(self, x):
... return x
...
>>> d = D()
>>> D.__dict__['f']  # Stored internally as a function

>>> D.f  # Get from a class becomes an unbound method

>>> d.f  # Get from an instance becomes a bound method
>

ipython3.5.3
In [1]: class D(object):
   ...: ... def f(self, x):
   ...: ... return x
   ...: ...

In [2]: d = D()

In [3]: D.__dict__['f']  # Stored internally as a function
Out[3]: 

In [4]: D.f  # Get from a class becomes an unbound method
Out[4]: 

In [5]: d.f  # Get from an instance becomes a bound method
Out[5]: >

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Raymond Hettinger]

Raymond Hettinger added the comment:

I'll fix that up.  I've already been working on revising the document.  There 
are a number of updates needed (user-friendly intro, properties revised to show 
the setting methods, __set_name__, etc).

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Steven D'Aprano]

Steven D'Aprano added the comment:

Be careful with the documentation patch. Although unbound method as an object 
type is gone, unbound method as a concept is not.

Conceptually, something like ``MyClass.spam`` is an unbound method: it is a 
method of the MyClass type, but bound to no instance. In Python 2 that concept 
was implemented by MethodType. In Python 3, the concept is implemented by 
FunctionType.

While it is certainly true from one perspective that unbound methods are 
nothing but functions, it is nevertheless also sometimes useful to distinguish 
from "functions defined in a class" (methods) and "other functions". I think 
that nearly all Python programmers would be happy to call ``spam`` below:

class MyClass:
def spam(self, arg): ...

a method, even though it is also/really a function.

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Gregory P. Smith]

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Ezio Melotti]

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to "unbound methods"

[Martin Panter]

Martin Panter added the comment:

Current patch for Issue 25435 addresses the code example. Changes to the text 
are also needed though.

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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to unbound methods

[Paul Sokolovsky]

New submission from Paul Sokolovsky:

Under https://docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html#functions-and-methods , 
there're several references to unbound methods (including in expected output 
from the interpreter).

As known, unbound methods are gone in Python3, so seeing those are confusing. 
(I didn't sharply know that unbound methods are gone from Py3, so was pretty 
confused by the examples there, comparing them with actual output of Cpython 
3.4).

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title: docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to unbound methods
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[issue23702] docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html still refers to unbound methods

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