[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[miss-islington]

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[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:


New changeset 9d49f85064c388e2dddb9f8cb4ae1f486bc8d357 by Terry Jan Reedy 
(Stéphane Wirtel) in branch 'master':
bpo-33856: Add "help" to the welcome message of IDLE (GH-7755)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/9d49f85064c388e2dddb9f8cb4ae1f486bc8d357


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[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[Stéphane Wirtel]

Stéphane Wirtel  added the comment:

PR proposed

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[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[Stéphane Wirtel]

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[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[Stéphane Wirtel]

Stéphane Wirtel  added the comment:

Hi Zach, in fact, it's not a problem with Python itself, but with Idle.

I just downloaded a virtualbox image via 
(https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/) and started 
the installation of Python 3.6.5

and when you execute IDLE, "help()" is not present, but this sentence is 
present in the prompt of python3.

I am going to provide a small patch.

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[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[Zachary Ware]

Zachary Ware  added the comment:

I suspect you either had a non-python.org version of Python, or had the 
embeddable distribution rather than a proper installation (the embeddable 
distribution should not be used unless you're embedding, hence the name :)).  
Either way, the standard distribution started normally imports site by default, 
which monkeypatches `help` into builtins on all platforms.

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[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[Ammar Askar]

Ammar Askar  added the comment:

Can't recreate from latest Python 3.6.5 downloaded off python.org

  > D:\Python365\python.exe
  Python 3.6.5 (v3.6.5:f59c0932b4, Mar 28 2018, 16:07:46) [MSC v.1900 32 bit 
(Intel)] on win32
  Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

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[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[Stéphane Wirtel]

Stéphane Wirtel  added the comment:

Hi Steven,

On Thursday, I gave a python training with some Windows computers and I have 
executer python, just the REPL, normally, you have 

Python 3.6.5 (default, Apr  4 2018, 15:01:18) 
[GCC 7.3.1 20180303 (Red Hat 7.3.1-5)] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> 

But I didn't see the message with "help" in the prompt on the Windows computer. 
I would like to confirm with the standard bundle of python.org but I don't have 
a windows computer. and I didn't check the author of this bundle, but it was 
the 3.6.x version.

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[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[Terry J. Reedy]

Change by Terry J. Reedy :


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[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[Steven D'Aprano]

New submission from Steven D'Aprano :

What do you mean "type help"?

help() is added by the site module, if you've done something to skip running 
the site module it won't be added.

Can you give an example of what you are trying to do, what happens and what you 
expected?

Are you running in IDLE or the regular REPL?

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[issue33856] Type "help" is not present on win32

[Stéphane Wirtel]

Change by Stéphane Wirtel :


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title: Type "help" is not present on win32
versions: Python 3.6

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