[issue39586] Deprecate bdist_msi: use bdist_wheel instead

[Hugo van Kemenade]

Hugo van Kemenade  added the comment:

Following this deprecation in Python 3.9, please see 
https://bugs.python.org/issue45124 / 
https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/28195 to remove the deprecation in 
Python 3.11.

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[issue39586] Deprecate bdist_msi: use bdist_wheel instead

[STINNER Victor]

STINNER Victor  added the comment:

Steve Dower who knows well Windows installer discourage users to use MSI:
https://discuss.python.org/t/remove-distutils-bdist-wininst-command/3115/14

Other pip developers want to get ride of everything but sdist and bdist_wheel 
formats:
https://discuss.python.org/t/remove-distutils-bdist-wininst-command/3115/14

So let's deprecated bdist_msi. If someone comes with a use case which justify 
to keep the feature, it would be trivial to revert the deprecation.

Thanks Hugo van Kemenade ;-)

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[issue39586] Deprecate bdist_msi: use bdist_wheel instead

[STINNER Victor]

STINNER Victor  added the comment:


New changeset 29b3fc0a18f105de666fdd586b537f34e349766d by Hugo van Kemenade in 
branch 'master':
bpo-39586: Deprecate distutils bdist_msi command (GH-18415)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/29b3fc0a18f105de666fdd586b537f34e349766d


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[issue39586] Deprecate bdist_msi: use bdist_wheel instead

[Hugo van Kemenade]

Change by Hugo van Kemenade :


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[issue39586] Deprecate bdist_msi: use bdist_wheel instead

[Hugo van Kemenade]

New submission from Hugo van Kemenade :

According to the "Deprecate bdist_wininst" discussion (July 2019), bdist_msi 
can be deprecated:

https://discuss.python.org/t/deprecate-bdist-wininst/1929

Victor Stinner wrote:

"Now the question is if someone here wants to go further is deprecate all 
distutils commands except sdist and bdist_wheel? Steve Dower wants to deprecate 
bdist_msi as well: I’m not sure who use bdist_msi. It’s another form of GUI 
installer, so it’s similar to bdist_wininst. I would also strongly encourage to 
use bdist_wheel rather than bdist_msi."

Brett Cannon wrote:

"Probably a good idea, but I personally don’t have the time."

Steve Dower wrote:

"I think the others are fine to leave (though if people who work more closely 
with those tools want to say drop them then I’m fine with that too).

"bdist_msi and bdist_exe don’t integrate with any other package managers, can’t 
be integrated with any other installer besides our own Python installer, and in 
any case are worse than simply copying the files. (If we had a bdist_msm I’d be 
slightly more sympathetic, but we don’t and probably should not :) )

"I also don’t necessarily think that wheels are always the alternative, 
particularly for embedded scenarios, but I do think that the fewer options we 
provide by default will help people find the option they actually need, rather 
than assuming that because it’s “blessed” it must see correct."


And in "Remove distutils bdist_wininst command" (February 2020):

https://discuss.python.org/t/remove-distutils-bdist-wininst-command/3115

Victor Stinner wrote:

"I don’t plan to remove bdist_msi, even if wheel packages are now recommended."

Steve Dower wrote:

"We should, though. Installing a package using an MSI is worse than an EXE, as 
it leaves far more cruft behind if you don’t uninstall it before 
changing/removing the Python install.

"Standalone apps should bundle everything, like pynsist or briefcase. GPO 
deployment should create their own MSI with everything they want in the bundle 
and deploy that. Perhaps someone can make an “installer” based on the py.exe 
launcher (which I believe supports an attached zip file) that will use pip and 
a local/embedded wheel.

"But we should really discourage package installs that don’t support venv 
and/or leave cruft behind."

Victor Stinner wrote:

"If you want to see it disappear, you should start by deprecating it in Python 
3.9. It would be a first step."

PR to follow.

See also:
* https://bugs.python.org/issue37481 "Deprecate bdist_wininst: use bdist_wheel 
instead"
* https://bugs.python.org/issue39541 "distutils: Remove bdist_wininst (Windows 
.exe installers) in favor of bdist_wheel (.whl)"

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title: Deprecate bdist_msi: use bdist_wheel instead
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