[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-10-19 Thread Kevin 


Kevin  added the comment:

Ok, I've opened https://bugs.python.org/issue42087

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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-10-19 Thread Batuhan Taskaya 


Batuhan Taskaya  added the comment:

> Also, I can submit changes to remove pre-AIX 6 dead code paths. Should I open 
> a separate issue for that or reference this one?

Yes, please do so.

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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-10-19 Thread Kevin 


Kevin  added the comment:

Does this need an update to PEP 11 documenting the drop of support?

Also, I can submit changes to remove pre-AIX 6 dead code paths. Should I open a 
separate issue for that or reference this one?

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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-06-16 Thread STINNER Victor 


STINNER Victor  added the comment:

> There is still a lot of AIX 6.1 out there, and iirc, there may be "extended" 
> support available.

This issue is about AIX5 support. I'm fine with providing best effort support 
for AIX 6.1. If supporting AIX 6 becomes too expensive, we can consider to drop 
support for this version.

Anyway, I close this issue: I don't think that it's worth it to attempt to 
support AIX 5 in Python 3.10: AIX 5 is no longer supported by its vendor (IBM). 
Use Python 3.9 which seems to better support AIX 5 (don't need 
thread_cputime()).

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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-06-16 Thread Michael Felt 


Michael Felt  added the comment:

There is still a lot of AIX 6.1 out there, and iirc, there may be
"extended" support available.

However, at this point in time the bots run (most of the time) on AIX
7.2, -- occasionally, on AIX 7.1. And when I (personally) test - it is
usually on AIX 6.1 (e.g., to have _uuid support).

In any case, I still package using AIX 6.1 (again, _uuid mod support)
and rely on AIX binary compatibility for installations on AIX 7.1 and
AIX 7.2.

Should you be thinking/considering moving AIX to the "supported" column
- I would "gladly" embrace AIX 7.1 as a requirement.

On 10/06/2020 22:58, STINNER Victor wrote:
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> According to 
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/aix-support-lifecycle-information I suggest 
> to require AIX 7.1 and newer.
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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-06-10 Thread STINNER Victor 


STINNER Victor  added the comment:

According to 
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/aix-support-lifecycle-information I suggest 
to require AIX 7.1 and newer.

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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-06-10 Thread STINNER Victor 


STINNER Victor  added the comment:

AIX 5 was released 16 years ago, do you we really care?

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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-06-10 Thread Batuhan Taskaya 


Batuhan Taskaya  added the comment:

@vstinner what are your thoughts on this? I can propose a patch that introduces 
a build value to generate this conditionally depending on if the system has it 
or not. But I am not sure about if our motivation behind this is going to be 
supporting (very) old versions of AIX.

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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-06-10 Thread Michael Felt 


Michael Felt  added the comment:

No, it is not supported - asin there are no new patches - but there are
organizations that use it.

imho - those organizations are not likely to be using the latest Python
- but I have been packaging Python on AIX 5.3 and AIX 6.1 - as these
packages run unmodified on AIX 7.1 and AIX 7.2 (AIX binary compatibility).

FYI.

On 19/05/2020 13:57, Batuhan Taskaya wrote:
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> Does AIX 5.3 officially supported by IBM? As far as I can locate, it is 
> deprecated long time ago.
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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-05-19 Thread Batuhan Taskaya 


Batuhan Taskaya  added the comment:

My source: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/aix-support-lifecycle-information

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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-05-19 Thread Batuhan Taskaya 


Batuhan Taskaya  added the comment:

Does AIX 5.3 officially supported by IBM? As far as I can locate, it is 
deprecated long time ago.

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[issue40680] thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5

2020-05-19 Thread Michael Felt 


New submission from Michael Felt :

issue40192 introduced the use of nanosecond reporting of time.

The new routine called is not available in AIX 5.3:

xlc_r  -O -I/opt/include -O2 -qmaxmem=-1 -qarch=pwr5 -O
-I../git/python-3.9/Include/internal -IObjects -IInclude -IPython -I. 
-I../git/python-3.9/Include -I/opt/include   -DPy_BUILD_CORE_BUILTIN  
-DPy_BUILD_CORE_BUILTIN -I../git/python-3.9/Include/internal -c 
../git/python-3.9/Modules/timemodule.c -o Modules/timemodule.o
"../git/python-3.9/Modules/timemodule.c", line 1358.22: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected 
text tc encountered.
"../git/python-3.9/Modules/timemodule.c", line 1358.5: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared 
identifier thread_cputime_t.
"../git/python-3.9/Modules/timemodule.c", line 1359.29: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared 
identifier tc.
"../git/python-3.9/Modules/timemodule.c", line 1861.19: 1506-196 (W) 
Initialization between types "void*" and "int(*)(struct _object*)" is not 
allowed.
make: 1254-004 The error code from the last command is 1.

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title: thread_cputime isn't supported by AIX5
versions: Python 3.9

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