[issue43347] IDLE crashes in macOS Apple chip, maybe completions

[Tal Einat]

Tal Einat  added the comment:

Thanks for the info, Raymond.

Anyone with an M-1 Mac able to look into this further?

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[issue43347] IDLE crashes in macOS Apple chip, maybe completions

[Raymond Hettinger]

Raymond Hettinger  added the comment:

There was no command-line error.

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[issue43347] IDLE crashes in macOS Apple chip, maybe completions

[Tal Einat]

Tal Einat  added the comment:

I'd be happy to look into this but I haven't access to any M-1 Macs at the 
moment.

It would be helpful if someone with an M-1 could try running IDLE from the 
command line to see if an error message is written when this issue occurs.

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[issue43347] IDLE crashes in macOS Apple chip, maybe completions

[Raymond Hettinger]

Raymond Hettinger  added the comment:

This time I got a screen shot showing the gray completion box that appeared 
just as IDLE stopped responding and froze:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eu3wd13vytz6tt8/Screen%20Shot%202021-03-22%20at%209.37.56%20PM.png?dl=0

Am now running Python 3.10.0a6 on Big Sur 11.2.3 running on a 2020 M-1 MacBook 
Air.

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[issue43347] IDLE crashes in macOS Apple chip, maybe completions

[Ned Deily]

Ned Deily  added the comment:

What version of Python (and Tcl/Tk) are you running on your Intel Macn that 
does not fail? Currently, we use Tcl/Tk 8.6.11 with the macOS 64-bit universal2 
installer variant as of Python 3.9.2 and 3.10.0a4; previously, they used 
8.6.10. All other current installer variants use 8.6.8.

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[issue43347] IDLE crashes in macOS Apple chip, maybe completions

[Terry J. Reedy]

Change by Terry J. Reedy :


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[issue43347] IDLE crashes in macOS Apple chip, maybe completions

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

Completions are in a Listbox.  listboxes are used for completions, stackviewer, 
and a few places in the settings dialog, in particular the keys list.  And 
maybe the drop down list for themes and keysets.  The latter two are the only 
one normally gray.  Try the different settings tabs.

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title: IDLE crashes in -> IDLE crashes in macOS Apple chip, maybe completions

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[issue43347] IDLE crashes in

[Raymond Hettinger]

New submission from Raymond Hettinger :

I'm running a python.org Mac build on Apple silicon.

Python 3.10.0a5 (v3.10.0a5:b0478d738a, Feb  2 2021, 16:30:44) 
[Clang 12.0.0 (clang-1200.0.32.29)] on darwin

Periodically, Python freezes and requires a force quit.  I'm not certain but 
think the trigger event is the display of a pop-up box showing attribute 
completions.  The box is correctly shaped but filled with a solid light gray.

I suspect the problem is partly in the O/S because after the freeze, I see 
something similar when clicking the system  icon, so the effect extends beyond 
Python.  However, the problem does not occur on my Mac with Intel silicon and 
it does not happen with Python 3.9 running on Apple silicon.  

This has been occurring for a while and has persisted through O/S updates.  
Today, it happened on Big Sur 11.2.2.   

Will try to get a screen shot and more details when this happens again.

The event occurs often enough to make IDLE unusable for classroom 
demonstrations or for development.

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assignee: terry.reedy
components: IDLE, Tkinter
messages: 387824
nosy: rhettinger, ronaldoussoren, terry.reedy
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: IDLE crashes in
versions: Python 3.10

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