[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Mark Lawrence]

Mark Lawrence  added the comment:

>From the recent large thread on c.l.py regarding Python GUIs I understand that 
>the author of this issue Guilherme Polo has done a massive amount of work on 
>Tkinter.  Would it therefore be possible for him to give an update as to 
>whether this issue can be closed as out of date, already actioned but not 
>recorded, or whatever?  Thanks.

There are several other issues raised by Guilherme Polo regarding Tkinter, 
sorry I'm too lazy to repeat this comment on all of them.

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Mark Lawrence]

Mark Lawrence  added the comment:

Is it still possible to get this into 3.2 and have them remove in 3.3?

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Éric Araujo]

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

Guilherme, I suggest you ask about that on pydev and/or idle-dev, or just 
commit the addition of PendingDeprecationWarnings and wait for reactions.

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Andrew Svetlov]

Changes by Andrew Svetlov :


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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Éric Araujo]

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

Andrew, you can take over this issue if you want.  As you’ve discovered with 
#3035, our deprecation process is a bit unclear (this was discussed on 
python-dev a few months ago), so using PendingDeprecationWarning vs. 
DeprecationWarning is a judgment call.

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Andrew Svetlov]

Andrew Svetlov  added the comment:

Will do.

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Andrew Svetlov]

Andrew Svetlov  added the comment:

Attaching the patch to make depredations.

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Éric Araujo]

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

LGTM (looks good to me).  In your NEWS entry, you don’t have to copy the whole 
explanation, just say something like “deprecated old, unused functions” and 
interested people will be able to come here read the details.  In your commit 
message, be sure to say that the patch does not add deprecation notices in the 
doc because the functions are undocumented.

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Roundup Robot]

Roundup Robot  added the comment:

New changeset 6023d73c6f87 by Andrew Svetlov in branch 'default':
fix issue #5136: deprecate old unused functions from tkinter.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/6023d73c6f87

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Andrew Svetlov]

Andrew Svetlov  added the comment:

Pushed deprecation warnings into default branch.
#14446 updated to add those function to remove list for 3.4 release.

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Andrew Svetlov]

Andrew Svetlov  added the comment:

Thanks to Guilherme Polo for idea and to Éric Araujo for review.

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[issue5136] Deprecating (and removing) "globalcall", "merge" and "globaleval"

[Guilherme Polo]

New submission from Guilherme Polo :

Hi, I'm going to try explaining in short why I think each of these
functions in _tkinter could be marked as deprecated and then removed on
2.8 (if it is decided to do it) and 3.1.

globalcall: It is not used anywhere in tkinter. It was abandoned, and
doesn't work in the same situations where "call" would work (with
threads). It doesn't care about converting the result to a proper python
object -- it is always a string (another result of the abandonment).
"call" already works in the Tcl global space, because it needs to do so
(see issue1581476). Even tcl 8.2 says Tcl_GlobalEval (the root of
"globalcall") is old and deprecated.

merge: globalcall depends on merge, but removing globalcall makes merge
obsolete. It is not used by tkinter either. Searching for "tk.merge" on
google codesearch returns a single result dating back python 1.1!

globaleval: Uses Tcl_GlobalEval too. I haven't seen it being used,
instead I always see eval being used.

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