Re: [python-committers] Date for the Language Summit?
Le jeu. 21 févr. 2019 à 14:23, Mariatta a écrit : > Date is listed here. More info will be added here too. > https://us.pycon.org/2019/events/language-summit/ "When: Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 10am–4pm" Ok, thanks :-) I should be able to attend (if I'm invited ;-)), except if Air France decide to organize a new strike (at they did last year just before the Language Summit) ;-) Victor -- Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [python-committers] Date for the Language Summit?
Date is listed here. More info will be added here too. https://us.pycon.org/2019/events/language-summit/ Process will be slightly different this year. Sorry, I'm busy with PyCascades this week. Next time I'll have more time to devote to this. On Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 5:21 AM Mariatta wrote: > Date is listed here. More info will be added here too. > https://us.pycon.org/2019/events/language-summit/ > Process will be slightly different this year. Sorry, I'm busy with > PyCascades this week. Next time I'll have more time to devote to this. > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 2:45 AM Matthias Klose wrote: > >> On 21.02.19 11:38, Victor Stinner wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > What will be the date of the Language Summit? I had to organize myself >> > very soon to get cheap flight and hotel, so I already booked >> > everything for Pycon US :-) >> >> +1 >> >> > Who will be allowed to attend? Will we have enough seats for all >> > CPython core devs? >> > >> > Mariatta, Lukasz: do you plan to invite people from other popular >> > Python projects or other Python implementations? >> >> I would like to see some presence of setuptools/pip maintainers. I think >> that >> was missed at last PyCon by Conda developers, and distro packagers from >> RedHat >> and Debian/Ubuntu. >> >> Matthias >> ___ >> python-committers mailing list >> python-committers@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers >> Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >> > ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [python-committers] Date for the Language Summit?
On 21.02.19 11:38, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > What will be the date of the Language Summit? I had to organize myself > very soon to get cheap flight and hotel, so I already booked > everything for Pycon US :-) +1 > Who will be allowed to attend? Will we have enough seats for all > CPython core devs? > > Mariatta, Lukasz: do you plan to invite people from other popular > Python projects or other Python implementations? I would like to see some presence of setuptools/pip maintainers. I think that was missed at last PyCon by Conda developers, and distro packagers from RedHat and Debian/Ubuntu. Matthias ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[python-committers] Date for the Language Summit?
Hi, What will be the date of the Language Summit? I had to organize myself very soon to get cheap flight and hotel, so I already booked everything for Pycon US :-) Who will be allowed to attend? Will we have enough seats for all CPython core devs? Mariatta, Lukasz: do you plan to invite people from other popular Python projects or other Python implementations? Victor -- Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [python-committers] New core developers
Le jeu. 21 févr. 2019 à 08:46, Serhiy Storchaka a écrit : > Alexey Izbyshev is not so active as the above two monsters, but his code > and comments on the bug tracker look qualified. > > https://github.com/python/cpython/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93=is%3Apr+author%3Aizbyshev I'm in touch with him. That's why I gave him the bug triage permission: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2019-February/006511.html We are working together on subprocess, vfork() and os.posix_spawn/os.posix_spawnp. My process is first to contact a contributor, offer to mentor them, give them the bug triage permission, follow their work. It's still unclear to me to decide how a candidate is ready or not. My rule is to make sure that a candidate knows how to: * accept review and rework their solution * find the best solution for an issue * know the Python coding style (Python: PEP 8, C: PEP 7) * remember to write tests * write a NEWS entry * update "What's New in Python 3.x?" document * understand backward compatibility rules Checking all these items require to work closely with a contributor. It's not easy to check everything from a single PR for example. My criteria are mostly about "coding skills", other core devs may have coding skills. Coding skills are not the only required skills IMHO. For me, what matters the most is if the contributor accepts criticism, like accept to attempt a different approach, understand that they didn't fix the root issue. I'm not sure how to explain that. I estimate the ability of a candidate to work as a team. I'm not interested by "rock stars" or "ninja devs" who are unable to work as a team. I also try to remind basic principles of the Python Code of Conduct like being respectful. Right now, I didn't check all checkboxes in my head for Alexey Izbyshev, but I also would like to promote him, at least in the long term. -- I also noticed Zackery Spytz and Andre Delfino contributions. If someone wants to start the process to train them as core dev, I propose to: * mentor them * give them the bug triage permission * follow more closely their work I'm already mentoring 4 persons. I prefer to not mentor too many people in parallel. -- I dislike talking about potential candidates in public. Usually, I prefer to talk in private. I don't want to put pressure on a candidate. For example, it's not because I mentor someone, that I will force the mentoree to become a core dev. Anyone is free to do what they want :-) Becoming a core dev is a slow process which requires a lot of free time, especially at the beginning. Everybody is busy. I decided to reply because I like the 3 names that you gave ;-) Victor ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [python-committers] New core developers
Agree with all three candidates. On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 9:46 AM Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > > What do you think about making Zackery Spytz, Andre Delfino and Alexey > Izbyshev core developers? > > > Zackery Spytz contributed a lot of bugfixes, mostly for reference leaks > and possible crashes. Some of them are trivial (but hard to discover), > others are nontrivial, but all are qualified. > > https://github.com/python/cpython/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93=is%3Apr+author%3AZackerySpytz > > > Andre Delfino contributed an enormous number of docfixes. > > https://github.com/python/cpython/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93=is%3Apr+author%3Aandresdelfino > > > Alexey Izbyshev is not so active as the above two monsters, but his code > and comments on the bug tracker look qualified. > > https://github.com/python/cpython/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93=is%3Apr+author%3Aizbyshev > > > Could anybody please ask them whether they want to be core developers? I > afraid that I may not have time for this, and in any case my English is > not good. You have my voice for all of them. I think they could be core > developers months ago, but I waited for the end of the Steering Council > election. > > ___ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers > Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ -- Thanks, Andrew Svetlov ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
