Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] (Windows) buildbots on 3.x

2010-08-04 Thread Richard Jones
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Paul Moore  wrote:
> On 3 August 2010 20:30, Barry Warsaw  wrote:
>> Brian is looking at Windows now (the buildbots are
>> a sad and sorry story).
>
> There seems to be something distinctly wrong with the 3.x buildbots. A
> lot of test failures and timeouts. At first I assumed it was my
> buildslave going flaky (again :-() but it only affects the 3.x branch,
> and it seems to be hitting more than just my slave. From what I'm
> seeing, it's often test_io that's getting stalled and then sitting
> round until it times out.

I'm also quite confused by the test_smtpd failures that pop up on some
of the test runs that I've had absolutely no luck reproducing locally
under OS X or Solaris.


  Richard
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Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] (Windows) buildbots on 3.x

2010-08-04 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le mercredi 04 août 2010 à 21:43 +1000, Richard Jones a écrit :
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Paul Moore  wrote:
> > On 3 August 2010 20:30, Barry Warsaw  wrote:
> >> Brian is looking at Windows now (the buildbots are
> >> a sad and sorry story).
> >
> > There seems to be something distinctly wrong with the 3.x buildbots. A
> > lot of test failures and timeouts. At first I assumed it was my
> > buildslave going flaky (again :-() but it only affects the 3.x branch,
> > and it seems to be hitting more than just my slave. From what I'm
> > seeing, it's often test_io that's getting stalled and then sitting
> > round until it times out.
> 
> I'm also quite confused by the test_smtpd failures that pop up on some
> of the test runs that I've had absolutely no luck reproducing locally
> under OS X or Solaris.

It happens when running test_smtplib before test_smtpb:

$./python -m test.regrtest -v test_smtplib test_smtpd

== CPython 3.2a1+ (py3k:83711M, Aug 4 2010, 13:23:20) [GCC 4.4.3]
==   Linux-2.6.33.5-desktop-2mnb-x86_64-with-mandrake-2010.1-Official
==   /home/antoine/py3k/__svn__/build/test_python_13320
[1/2] test_smtplib
testBasic1 (test.test_smtplib.GeneralTests) ... ok
testBasic2 (test.test_smtplib.GeneralTests) ... ok
testLocalHostName (test.test_smtplib.GeneralTests) ... ok
testTimeoutDefault (test.test_smtplib.GeneralTests) ... ok
testTimeoutNone (test.test_smtplib.GeneralTests) ... ok
testTimeoutValue (test.test_smtplib.GeneralTests) ... ok
testBasic (test.test_smtplib.DebuggingServerTests) ... ok
testHELP (test.test_smtplib.DebuggingServerTests) ... ok
testNOOP (test.test_smtplib.DebuggingServerTests) ... ok
testNotImplemented (test.test_smtplib.DebuggingServerTests) ... ok
testRSET (test.test_smtplib.DebuggingServerTests) ... ok
testSecondHELO (test.test_smtplib.DebuggingServerTests) ... ok
testSend (test.test_smtplib.DebuggingServerTests) ... ok
testVRFY (test.test_smtplib.DebuggingServerTests) ... ok
testNonnumericPort (test.test_smtplib.NonConnectingTests) ... ok
testNotConnected (test.test_smtplib.NonConnectingTests) ... ok
testFailingHELO (test.test_smtplib.BadHELOServerTests) ... ok
testAUTH_CRAM_MD5 (test.test_smtplib.SMTPSimTests) ... ok
testAUTH_LOGIN (test.test_smtplib.SMTPSimTests) ... ok
testAUTH_PLAIN (test.test_smtplib.SMTPSimTests) ... ok
testBasic (test.test_smtplib.SMTPSimTests) ... ok
testEHLO (test.test_smtplib.SMTPSimTests) ... ok
testEXPN (test.test_smtplib.SMTPSimTests) ... ok
testVRFY (test.test_smtplib.SMTPSimTests) ... ok

--
Ran 24 tests in 0.107s

OK
[2/2] test_smtpd
test_process_message_unimplemented (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDServerTest) ... FAIL
test_DATA_syntax (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_EHLO_not_implemented (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_HELO (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_HELO_bad_syntax (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_HELO_duplicate (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_MAIL_chevrons (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_MAIL_missing_from (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_MAIL_syntax (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_NOOP (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_NOOP_bad_syntax (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_QUIT (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_QUIT_arg_ignored (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_RCPT_syntax (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_RSET (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... ERROR
test_RSET_syntax (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_attribute_deprecations (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... ok
test_bad_state (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... ok
test_broken_connect (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... ok
test_data_dialog (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_data_transparency_section_4_5_2 (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_manual_status (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_missing_data (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_multiple_RCPT (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... ERROR
test_need_MAIL (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_need_RCPT (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_nested_MAIL (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... FAIL
test_server_accept (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest) ... ok

==
ERROR: test_RSET (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/antoine/py3k/__svn__/Lib/test/test_smtpd.py", line 212, in 
test_RSET
self.assertEqual(self.server.messages[0],
IndexError: list index out of range

==
ERROR: test_multiple_RCPT (test.test_smtpd.SMTPDChannelTest)
--
Traceback (most recent 

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] (Windows) buildbots on 3.x

2010-08-04 Thread Richard Jones
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Antoine Pitrou  wrote:
> It happens when running test_smtplib before test_smtpb:

Aha! Thanks for the clue. I've checked in a fix.


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Re: [python-committers] Mercurial Status?

2010-08-04 Thread Jack Diederich
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Alexander Belopolsky
 wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Jesus Cea  wrote:
> ..
>> Good luck (and justice!) with your (both) thesis. Uhmmm, what is the
>> plural for thesis, in english?. In Spanish it is the same word, changing
>> the prefix article: "la tesis"/"las tesis" :).
>
> "theses"  - isn't English fun?

I blame Greek.

-Jack
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Re: [python-committers] Mercurial Status?

2010-08-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Jack Diederich  wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Alexander Belopolsky
>  wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Jesus Cea  wrote:
>> ..
>>> Good luck (and justice!) with your (both) thesis. Uhmmm, what is the
>>> plural for thesis, in english?. In Spanish it is the same word, changing
>>> the prefix article: "la tesis"/"las tesis" :).
>>
>> "theses"  - isn't English fun?
>
> I blame Greek.

And Latin, and Germanic... and, well, pretty much every other language
English speakers and their ancestors have ever encountered ;)

I have a T-shirt which says "English doesn't borrow from other
languages. It follows them down dark alleys, knocks them down and goes
through their pockets for loose grammar". It's funny because it's true
:)

Cheers,
Nick.

P.S. Other languages may be just as indiscriminate in their evolution,
but English is the only one I know sufficiently well to comment on the
way it evolves over time.

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Re: [python-committers] Mercurial Status?

2010-08-04 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Nick Coghlan  wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Jack Diederich  wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Alexander Belopolsky
>>  wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Jesus Cea  wrote:
>>> ..
 Good luck (and justice!) with your (both) thesis. Uhmmm, what is the
 plural for thesis, in english?. In Spanish it is the same word, changing
 the prefix article: "la tesis"/"las tesis" :).
>>>
>>> "theses"  - isn't English fun?
>>
>> I blame Greek.
>
> And Latin, and Germanic... and, well, pretty much every other language
> English speakers and their ancestors have ever encountered ;)
>
> I have a T-shirt which says "English doesn't borrow from other
> languages. It follows them down dark alleys, knocks them down and goes
> through their pockets for loose grammar". It's funny because it's true
> :)

LOL.

> Cheers,
> Nick.
>
> P.S. Other languages may be just as indiscriminate in their evolution,
> but English is the only one I know sufficiently well to comment on the
> way it evolves over time.

I think all languages borrow from other languages -- it's natural as
people travel and cultures commingle. In the current times, most
languages borrow constantly from English. In 30 years maybe we'll all
be borrowing from Chinese...

ObPython: Python has borrowed from many other programming languages;
early on, C was a dominant influence. Nowadays Java seems to be.
Python is also influencing other languages (e.g. Ruby, Scala,
JavaScript). Long live cultural diversity!

-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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