[python-committers] Announcing: signups are open for the 2019 Python Language Summit

2019-02-27 Thread Łukasz Langa
The Python Language Summit is an event for the developers of Python
implementations (CPython, PyPy, Jython, and so on) to share information,
discuss our shared problems, and — hopefully — solve them.

These issues might be related to the language itself, the standard
library, the development process, status of Python 3.8 (or plans for
3.9), the documentation, packaging, the website, et cetera. The Summit
focuses on discussion more than on presentations.

If you’d like to attend **and actively participate** in the discussions
during the Language Summit, please fill in this form by March 21st 2019:

https://goo.gl/forms/pexfOGDjpV0BWMer2

We will be evaluating all applications and confirm your attendance by
April 15th. Note: **your attendance is not confirmed** until you heard
back from us.  You don't need to be registered for PyCon in order to
attend the summit.

One of the goals of the Language Summit is to speed up the discussions
and decision making process. Communication over Discourse (or mailing
lists!) is generally more time consuming. As part of efforts to make
this event more open and less mysterious, we are not requiring
invitations by core developers anymore.

However, please understand that we will have to be selective as space
and time are limited. In particular, we are prioritizing active core
contributors, as well as those who we believe will be able to improve
the quality of the discussions at the event and bring a more diverse
perspective to core Python developers.

As for other changes this year, A. Jesse Jiryu Davis will be covering
the event and will post a detailed write up on the official blog of the
PSF shortly after the conference.

We hope to see you at the Summit!
- Mariatta and Łukasz

PS. If you have any questions, the Users section of our Discourse
instance (https://discuss.python.org/c/users) is the best place to ask.
For private communication, write to [email protected] and/or
[email protected].



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Re: [python-committers] Announcing: signups are open for the 2019 Python Language Summit

2019-02-27 Thread Łukasz Langa

> On 27 Feb 2019, at 14:22, Łukasz Langa  wrote:
> 
> The Python Language Summit is an event for the developers of Python
> implementations (CPython, PyPy, Jython, and so on) to share information,
> discuss our shared problems, and — hopefully — solve them.

Oh, you'd also like to know *when* and *where* it is? Fine.

- When: Wednesday, May 1st 2019
- Where: 0Huntington Convention Center in Cleveland, Ohio

Sorry for missing this in the original e-mail,
Ł


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Re: [python-committers] OpenMandriva and Fedora abandoned Discourse for development discussions

2019-02-27 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:40 PM Victor Stinner  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Follow-up of the previous "Can we choose between mailing list and
> discuss.python.org?" thread.
>
> Python isn't the first project who "experimented" Discourse to replace
> mailing lists. It seems like Fedora and OpenMandriva are coming back
> to mailing lists, at least for "development discussions":
>
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/XQLY3MRJLC4CFMIRSYU5LRQSOPFF532X/
>

It sounds like their overall team is much larger than ours based on the
tone of that email (is that true?). We have also talked about having both
Discourse and python-committers for announcements which would partially
alleviate some of their concerns.

I also think it's telling that their decision to do this was done on IRC
which is not a primary communication platform for all of us and suggests
that it's possible the desires/needs/expectations of those participating
are different.
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Re: [python-committers] OpenMandriva and Fedora abandoned Discourse for development discussions

2019-02-27 Thread Matthias Klose
On 27.02.19 22:11, Brett Cannon wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:40 PM Victor Stinner  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Follow-up of the previous "Can we choose between mailing list and
>> discuss.python.org?" thread.
>>
>> Python isn't the first project who "experimented" Discourse to replace
>> mailing lists. It seems like Fedora and OpenMandriva are coming back
>> to mailing lists, at least for "development discussions":
>>
>>
>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/XQLY3MRJLC4CFMIRSYU5LRQSOPFF532X/
>>
> 
> It sounds like their overall team is much larger than ours based on the
> tone of that email (is that true?). We have also talked about having both
> Discourse and python-committers for announcements which would partially
> alleviate some of their concerns.
> 
> I also think it's telling that their decision to do this was done on IRC
> which is not a primary communication platform for all of us and suggests
> that it's possible the desires/needs/expectations of those participating
> are different.

well, #python-dev is another topic.  It now gets spammed by many bots, and human
chats are lost in the noise.  That used to be better.

Matthias
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Re: [python-committers] Proposed dates for Python 3.4.10 and Python 3.5.7

2019-02-27 Thread Larry Hastings


My thanks to Miro and (especially!) Victor for quickly putting together 
those lovely PRs.  I've now merged everything outstanding for 3.4 and 
3.5 except this:


   https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/10994

It's a backport of LibreSSL 2.7.0 support for 3.5.  This is something I 
believe Christian Heimes wanted.  As it stands, the issue needs a 
reviewer; I've contacted Christian but received no reply.  I'm happy to 
merge the PR as long as some security-aware core dev approves it.


FWIW, there doesn't appear to be a backport of this patch for 3.4.  I 
don't know if 3.4 should get this backport or not, and there's no 
discussion of 3.4 on the bpo issue:


   https://bugs.python.org/issue33127

Anyway, I'm hoping either to merge or reject this PR before Saturday, so 
there's no huge rush.  Still I'd appreciate it if someone could at least 
tag themselves as a reviewer in the next day or so.



Putting 3.4 to bed,


//arry/

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