Re: [Python-Dev] New Pythondoc by effbot

2006-01-23 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
  Have you studied wikipedia's approach? It's multi-layered and worth
  learning from (start with their FAQ on editing).
 
  (And by the way, I am *not* advocating writing the docs as one big
  wikipedia -- only the user commentary.)

 to clarify, I'm advocating maintaining the docs via a restricted wiki-like
 system, and using a blog-style discussion board or a wiki to collect non-
 specific user commentary.

Why does it have to be wiki-like? Why can't it be a wiki? MediaWiki
seem to work pretty well for a lot of software projects that have put
their documentation in a wiki. Talk pages for commentary and primary
pages for reviewed content.

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mvh Björn
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Re: [Python-Dev] New Pythondoc by effbot

2006-01-23 Thread Fredrik Lundh
BJörn Lindqvist wrote:

   Have you studied wikipedia's approach? It's multi-layered and worth
   learning from (start with their FAQ on editing).
  
   (And by the way, I am *not* advocating writing the docs as one big
   wikipedia -- only the user commentary.)
 
  to clarify, I'm advocating maintaining the docs via a restricted wiki-like
  system, and using a blog-style discussion board or a wiki to collect non-
  specific user commentary.

 Why does it have to be wiki-like? Why can't it be a wiki? MediaWiki
 seem to work pretty well for a lot of software projects that have put
 their documentation in a wiki. Talk pages for commentary and primary
 pages for reviewed content.

semantics, semantics, semantics (see earlier posts on this topic).

but sure, a wiki engine with support for custom source syntax (to support
python-oriented semantic markup) and section editing could work.

(moinmoin has the former, but not the latter, afaik).

/F 



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[Python-Dev] stabilizing builds

2006-01-23 Thread Neal Norwitz
I would really like to stabilize a bunch of the current rough edges in
2.5.  We are likely to have enough instability with the PEP 353
changes, so it would be better to fix some of these issues sooner
rather than later.  There are a bunch of tests that are not stable. 
It would really help to get people knowledgeable about a particular
subdomain to provide input into bugs/patches and produce patches too!

The areas that are known to have problems are listed here:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot

It would be nice to clean those issues up.  Does anyone have some time
to spend to resolve the issues with Berkeley DB?  That's the one that
annoys me most right now.  I have a patch that fixes at least one of
the problems, but no idea if it's the correct solution or not. 
http://python.org/sf/1407992

n
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PS. In case you are interested in all the problems:

* BSD DB 4.1 and 3.2 fail
* test_pty is brittle on solaris 10, sometimes it works, sometimes not
* getaddrinfo() configure check sometimes fails on OS X 10.3
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Re: [Python-Dev] building a module catalogue with buildbot

2006-01-23 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 1/11/06, Trent Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Does that make sense?  We would just need /f's script in SVN.
 
  in python/Tools/something or sandbox/something ?

 python/Doc/tools/something?

Fredrik were you still working on that?  I can make the changes to the
bb master.  I thought Trent's suggested placement was good.

n
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Re: [Python-Dev] stabilizing builds

2006-01-23 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 11:01:36PM -0800, Neal Norwitz wrote:

 * test_pty is brittle on solaris 10, sometimes it works, sometimes not

Do we have a Solaris 10 box to test on? I think I wrote most of test_pty,
and I can see if I can pin down the problem, but I don't have a Solaris 10
box myself.

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[Python-Dev] Weekly Python Patch/Bug Summary

2006-01-23 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
Patch / Bug Summary
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Patches :  391 open ( +7) /  3028 closed (+12) /  3419 total (+19)
Bugs:  905 open ( -4) /  5519 closed (+19) /  6424 total (+15)
RFE :  207 open ( -1) /   197 closed ( +1) /   404 total ( +0)

New / Reopened Patches
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Patch for #1371247  (2006-01-14)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1406159  opened by  Peter van Kampen

Doc patch for bug #1396471  (2006-01-16)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1407021  opened by  Peter van Kampen

anonymous mmap  (2006-01-16)
   http://python.org/sf/1407135  opened by  Ralf Schmitt

ParenMatch: workaround for misinterpreting of closing parens  (2006-01-16)
   http://python.org/sf/1407280  opened by  Tal Einat

Patches Closed
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AF_NETLINK sockets basic support  (2005-01-15)
   http://python.org/sf/1103116  closed by  loewis

Further .vcproj cleanups  (2006-01-03)
   http://python.org/sf/1396093  closed by  loewis

bind() for netlink sockets  (2005-12-15)
   http://python.org/sf/1381398  closed by  loewis

Patch for #1371247  (2006-01-14)
   http://python.org/sf/1406159  closed by  birkenfeld

Doc patch for bug #1396471  (2006-01-16)
   http://python.org/sf/1407021  closed by  birkenfeld

New / Reopened Bugs
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bz2module with no long long type support  (2006-01-16)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1407069  opened by  kbob_ru

urlparse does not know about sftp: urls  (2006-01-17)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1407902  opened by  Stuart Bishop

Bugs Closed
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segfault when using mmap(-1,...) [+PATCH]  (2006-01-10)
   http://python.org/sf/1402308  closed by  nnorwitz

2.3.5 RPM provides incompatibility  (2006-01-11)
   http://python.org/sf/1403225  closed by  jafo

locale.windows_locale   (2005-12-01)
   http://python.org/sf/1371247  closed by  birkenfeld

file.tell() returns illegal value on Windows  (2006-01-04)
   http://python.org/sf/1396471  closed by  birkenfeld

bz2module with no long long type support  (2006-01-15)
   http://python.org/sf/1407069  closed by  nnorwitz

TimedRotatingFileHandler at midnight rolls over at 01:00  (2006-01-03)
   http://python.org/sf/1396030  closed by  vsajip

TimedRotatingFileHandler does not recover from open error  (2006-01-03)
   http://python.org/sf/1396040  closed by  vsajip

urllib2 should be more robust for sloppy proxy URLs  (2004-02-22)
   http://python.org/sf/902075  closed by  birkenfeld

urlparse does not know about sftp: urls  (2006-01-17)
   http://python.org/sf/1407902  closed by  birkenfeld

in email can't get attachments' filenames using get_filename  (2006-01-11)
   http://python.org/sf/1403349  closed by  bwarsaw

RFE Closed
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python.org - add RFE tracker  (2006-01-05)
   http://python.org/sf/1397806  closed by  kbk

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[Python-Dev] Weekly Python Patch/Bug Summary (Revised)

2006-01-23 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
Patch / Bug Summary
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Patches :  391 open ( +7) /  3028 closed (+12) /  3419 total (+19)
Bugs:  906 open ( -3) /  5519 closed (+19) /  6425 total (+16)
RFE :  207 open ( -1) /   197 closed ( +1) /   404 total ( +0)

New / Reopened Patches
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Patch for #1371247  (2006-01-14)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1406159  opened by  Peter van Kampen

Doc patch for bug #1396471  (2006-01-16)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1407021  opened by  Peter van Kampen

anonymous mmap  (2006-01-16)
   http://python.org/sf/1407135  opened by  Ralf Schmitt

ParenMatch: workaround for misinterpreting of closing parens  (2006-01-16)
   http://python.org/sf/1407280  opened by  Tal Einat

fix bsddb test associate problems w/bsddb 4.1  (2006-01-16)
   http://python.org/sf/1407992  opened by  Neal Norwitz

Corrupt Berkeley DB using Modify bsddb.dbtables  (2006-01-17)
   http://python.org/sf/1408584  opened by  jross

use computed goto's in ceval loop  (2006-01-18)
   http://python.org/sf/1408710  opened by  Simon David Burton

Add foldr and foldl to functional module  (2006-01-19)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1410119  opened by  Collin Winter

Add 'surgical editing' to ConfigParser  (2006-01-21)
   http://python.org/sf/1410680  opened by  Tony Meyer

Add notes to the manual about `is` and methods  (2006-01-20)
   http://python.org/sf/1410739  opened by  Collin Winter

Doc patch for classmethod and staticmethod  (2006-01-20)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1410783  opened by  Collin Winter

Remove mention of DOS from os.py's docstring  (2006-01-20)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1410998  opened by  Hamish Lawson

Add DarwinPorts directories to setup.py  (2006-01-21)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1411588  opened by  Barry A. Warsaw

More easily extensible logging module  (2006-01-22)
   http://python.org/sf/1412054  opened by  Daniele Varrazzo

Compile under mingw properly  (2006-01-23)
   http://python.org/sf/1412448  opened by  Alexandre Girão Bezerra de Mene

Fill out the functional module  (2006-01-22)
   http://python.org/sf/1412451  opened by  Collin Winter

Proper locking with asynchronous callbacks.  (2006-01-23)
   http://python.org/sf/1412632  opened by  uiltje

zipfile: use correct system type on unixy systems  (2006-01-23)
   http://python.org/sf/1412872  opened by  Ronald Oussoren

PyThreadState_Delete doesnt' clean autoTLSkey  (2006-01-23)
   http://python.org/sf/1413181  opened by  Gabriel Becedillas

Patches Closed
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AF_NETLINK sockets basic support  (2005-01-15)
   http://python.org/sf/1103116  closed by  loewis

Further .vcproj cleanups  (2006-01-03)
   http://python.org/sf/1396093  closed by  loewis

bind() for netlink sockets  (2005-12-15)
   http://python.org/sf/1381398  closed by  loewis

Patch for #1371247  (2006-01-14)
   http://python.org/sf/1406159  closed by  birkenfeld

Doc patch for bug #1396471  (2006-01-16)
   http://python.org/sf/1407021  closed by  birkenfeld

Add foldr and foldl to functional module  (2006-01-19)
   http://python.org/sf/1410119  closed by  collinwinter

Need warning that `dl` module can cause segfaults/crashes  (2006-01-11)
   http://python.org/sf/1402224  closed by  birkenfeld

Doc patch for classmethod and staticmethod  (2006-01-20)
   http://python.org/sf/1410783  closed by  birkenfeld

Make unittest.TestCase easier to subclass  (2005-12-22)
   http://python.org/sf/1388073  closed by  birkenfeld

Remove mention of DOS from os.py's docstring  (2006-01-20)
   http://python.org/sf/1410998  closed by  birkenfeld

fix UnixBrowswer failure when no browser running  (2005-12-03)
   http://python.org/sf/1372125  closed by  birkenfeld

Add DarwinPorts directories to setup.py  (2006-01-21)
   http://python.org/sf/1411588  closed by  bwarsaw

New / Reopened Bugs
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bz2module with no long long type support  (2006-01-16)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1407069  opened by  kbob_ru

urlparse does not know about sftp: urls  (2006-01-17)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1407902  opened by  Stuart Bishop

email.Message should supress warning from uu.decode  (2006-01-18)
   http://python.org/sf/1409403  opened by  Mark Sapiro

frame-f_lasti not always correct  (2006-01-18)
   http://python.org/sf/1409443  opened by  John Ehresman

email.Message.set_payload followed by bad result get_payload  (2006-01-18)
   http://python.org/sf/1409455  opened by  Mark Sapiro

email.Utils.parseaddr() gives arcane result  (2006-01-18)
   http://python.org/sf/1409460  opened by  Mark Sapiro

email.Charset.py CODEC_MAP no longer requires 'japanese'  (2006-01-19)
   http://python.org/sf/1409538  opened by  Tokio Kikuchi

urllib2.urlopen() hangs due to use of socket._fileobject?  (2006-01-20)
   http://python.org/sf/1411097  opened by  John J Lee

print statement in libref index broken  (2006-01-21)
   http://python.org/sf/1411674  opened by