Re: [Python-Dev] Promoting PCbuild8 (Was: Python 2.5 performance)
Kristján V. Jónsson schrieb: > Okay, a buildbot then doesn't sound quite that scary. Any info > somewhere on how to set one up on a windows box? Sure. See http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildbotOnWindows Feel free to make changes if you find the instructions need to be enhanced. > I Also wasn't suggesting that we change the PCBuild directory, since > I think we definitely want to keep the old support. Well, at any point in time, there is one and only one "official" build procedure, which is the procedure used to make releases. If VS 2003 is not used anymore, a copy of it is made into PC, and the existing PCBuild directory is converted to the new procedure (or some other directory name is invented; that should *not* be PCbuild8 - we shouldn't have to rename directories each time we switch the compiler). > But I agree that > getting regular builds running would be a good thing. An x64 box > would be ideal to build both the x86 and x64 versions on. A single > bot can manage many platforms, right? A single machine, and a single buildbot installation, yes. But not a single build slave, since there can be only one build procedure per slave. So if we need different procedures (which we likely do: how else could it find out which of them it should do?), we would need two slaves. That should work fine, except that both slaves will typically start simultaneously on the machine, doubling the load. It's possible to tell the master not to build different branches on a single slave (i.e. 2.5 has to wait if trunk is building), but it's not possible to tell it that two slaves reside on the same machine (it might be possible, but I don't know how to do it). > I would also need to get the _msi and _sqlite3 modules building > (which I haven't yet, since I didn't get their sources.) You don't need any additional sources for _msi, and, in fact, my AMD64 and Itanium installers do provide _msi.pyd binaries. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] who is interested on being on a python-dev panel at PyCon?
For the past couple years there has been the suggestion of having a panel discussion made up of core developers at PyCon. Basically it would provide a way for the community to find how we do things, where we are going, our views, etc. I have finally decided to step forward and try to organize such a panel. Steve Holden has already graciously stepped forward at my request to be the moderator. That means I just need to fill out the panel. =) Since I am organizing this I am also going to stick my neck out and be on the panel. AMK has also volunteered. Who else is interested? If you think you will be at PyCon (does not have to be a definite "yes" at the moment, just that you are hoping to) and are interested in participating, send me an email. Let me know how good your chances are attending PyCon are in case there are more people volunteering than would reasonably fit on the panel (I am guessing five people would be good, especially if we get folks who fill different roles on python-dev). -Brett ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] svn.python.org down
Anthony> Ah - the svn-apache server was down. I've restarted it. We Anthony> should probably put some monitoring/restarting in place for Anthony> those servers - if someone wants to volunteer a script I'll add Anthony> it to cron, or I'll write it myself when I get a chance. Is this on a machine hosted by xs4all? If so, we can probably just ask them to monitor it from nagios (or whatever tool they use). Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] svn.python.org down
On 10/17/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah - the svn-apache server was down. I've restarted it. We should probably put > some monitoring/restarting in place for those servers - if someone wants to > volunteer a script I'll add it to cron, or I'll write it myself when I get a > chance. Working now. Thanks. Paul. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] svn.python.org down
Ah - the svn-apache server was down. I've restarted it. We should probably put some monitoring/restarting in place for those servers - if someone wants to volunteer a script I'll add it to cron, or I'll write it myself when I get a chance. (I was testing with svn+ssh, it was the http version that was down) Anthony ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] svn.python.org down
On 10/17/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 00:59, Grig Gheorghiu wrote: > > FYI -- can't do svn checkouts/updates from the trunk at this point. > > > > starting svn operation > > svn update --revision HEAD > > in dir /home/twistbot/pybot/trunk.gheorghiu-x86/build (timeout 1200 secs) > > svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/projects/python/trunk' > > svn: PROPFIND of '/projects/python/trunk': could not connect to server > > (http://svn.python.org) > > It works for me. Can you connect to port 22 on svn.python.org? I think it's the HTTP side of things. The ViewCVS interface isn't working either. Paul. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] svn.python.org down
On 10/17/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 00:59, Grig Gheorghiu wrote: > > FYI -- can't do svn checkouts/updates from the trunk at this point. > > > > starting svn operation > > svn update --revision HEAD > > in dir /home/twistbot/pybot/trunk.gheorghiu-x86/build (timeout 1200 secs) > > svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/projects/python/trunk' > > svn: PROPFIND of '/projects/python/trunk': could not connect to server > > (http://svn.python.org) > > It works for me. Can you connect to port 22 on svn.python.org? > I can connect with ssh, but svn checkouts fail across the board for all pybots buildslaves: http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/community/all/ Grig ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] svn.python.org down
On Wednesday 18 October 2006 00:59, Grig Gheorghiu wrote: > FYI -- can't do svn checkouts/updates from the trunk at this point. > > starting svn operation > svn update --revision HEAD > in dir /home/twistbot/pybot/trunk.gheorghiu-x86/build (timeout 1200 secs) > svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/projects/python/trunk' > svn: PROPFIND of '/projects/python/trunk': could not connect to server > (http://svn.python.org) It works for me. Can you connect to port 22 on svn.python.org? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Promoting PCbuild8 (Was: Python 2.5 performance)
On 10/17/06, Kristján V. Jónsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Okay, a buildbot then doesn't sound quite that scary. Any info somewhere on > how to set one up on a windows box? > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildbotOnWindows Grig ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] BRANCH FREEZE release24-maint, Wed 18th Oct, 00:00UTC
I'm declaring the branch frozen for 2.4.4 final from 00:00 UTC (that's about 8 hours from now). The release will either be Wednesday 18th or Thursday 19th. There's a blocking bug http://www.python.org/sf/1578513 - I've attached a patch for it, if someone with autoconf knowledge wants to review that it can be checked in. It _should_ be good, and probably needs to be applied to release25-maint and the trunk as well. Anthony -- Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's never too late to have a happy childhood. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Promoting PCbuild8 (Was: Python 2.5 performance)
Okay, a buildbot then doesn't sound quite that scary. Any info somewhere on how to set one up on a windows box? I Also wasn't suggesting that we change the PCBuild directory, since I think we definitely want to keep the old support. But I agree that getting regular builds running would be a good thing. An x64 box would be ideal to build both the x86 and x64 versions on. A single bot can manage many platforms, right? I would also need to get the _msi and _sqlite3 modules building (which I haven't yet, since I didn't get their sources.) Kristján > -Original Message- > From: "Martin v. Löwis" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16. október 2006 19:38 > To: Kristján V. Jónsson > Cc: Anthony Baxter; python-dev@python.org > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Promoting PCbuild8 (Was: Python 2.5 > performance) > > Kristján V. Jónsson schrieb: > > I must confess that I am not familiar with the buildbots. > > The challenge and work-load is primarily initially in setting > it up; in this case (for PCbuild8), there is work for both > the master and the slave sides (probably, new scripts in > Tools/buildbot will have to be created). > > > I could > > imagine that it would be difficult to set up internally due to > > security concerns, but I can voice the issue here. > > It's not mandatory, of course: neither that there is a > PCbuild8 buildbot at all, or that it is hosted at ccpgames. > It just would reduce the chance that breakage of PCbuild8 > goes unnoticed for long. > > As for the security concerns: the buildbot slave actively > opens a networking connection to the master; you don't have > to open any additional ports on your firewalls. Of course, > the master can send the slave arbitrary commands to execute, > so if the master is taken over by some attacker, that > attacker could easily get control over all slaves also > (except that you want to run the slave in a restricted > account, so that the attacker would have to find a hole in > the slave's operating system, also, before taking the machine > over completely). > > As for making VS 2005 "more official": you also might have > meant that the PCbuild directory should be converted to VS 2005. > That would have a number of implications (on the buildbots, > on changes to Tools/msi, and on potential usage of VS 2007 > for Python 2.6), which need to be discussed when somebody > actually proposes such a change. > > Regards, > Martin > ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] svn.python.org down
FYI -- can't do svn checkouts/updates from the trunk at this point. starting svn operation svn update --revision HEAD in dir /home/twistbot/pybot/trunk.gheorghiu-x86/build (timeout 1200 secs) svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/projects/python/trunk' svn: PROPFIND of '/projects/python/trunk': could not connect to server (http://svn.python.org) Grig -- http://agiletesting.blogspot.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.6 for the unicode buffer overrun
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 19:09, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > > But I'm certainly thinking if there's a 2.3.6, it's going to be 2.3.5 > > with the email fix and the unicode repr() fix, and that's it. > > sounds good to me. how much work would that be, and if you're willing to > coordinate, is there anything we can do to help? Less than a normal release, since I'm not going to worry about changing the docs, the windows installers or the mac installers. I'll look at it next week, once 2.4.4 final is done. Anthony -- Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's never too late to have a happy childhood. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.6 for the unicode buffer overrun
Anthony Baxter wrote: > > why not just do a "2.3.5+security" source release, and leave the rest to > > the downstream maintainers? > > I think we'd need to renumber it to 2.3.6 at least, otherwise there's the > problem of distinguishing between the two. I'd _hope_ that all the > downstreams will have picked up the patch (if you know of someone who hasn't, > let me know and I'll kick them for you if it would help). in my experience, downstream builders tend to deal with patches just fine; I'm more worried about people who build directly from tarballs (using the good old "wget, tar xvfz, configure, make" mental macro) > But I'm certainly thinking if there's a 2.3.6, it's going to be 2.3.5 with the > email fix and the unicode repr() fix, and that's it. sounds good to me. how much work would that be, and if you're willing to coordinate, is there anything we can do to help? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.6 for the unicode buffer overrun
Steve Holden wrote: > Or you can start to promote Django again ... my original plan would still work, I think: http://effbot.org/zone/pydotorg-cache.htm#todo ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.6 for the unicode buffer overrun
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 18:54, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Martin v. L�wis wrote: > > In 2.3.6, there wouldn't just be that change, but also a few other > > changes that have been collected, some relevant for Windows as well > > why not just do a "2.3.5+security" source release, and leave the rest to > the downstream maintainers? I think we'd need to renumber it to 2.3.6 at least, otherwise there's the problem of distinguishing between the two. I'd _hope_ that all the downstreams will have picked up the patch (if you know of someone who hasn't, let me know and I'll kick them for you if it would help). But I'm certainly thinking if there's a 2.3.6, it's going to be 2.3.5 with the email fix and the unicode repr() fix, and that's it. No windows or Mac binaries - they'll be pointed to the perfectly fine 2.3.5 binary installers. And no, I'm not doing another 2.2 release :) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.6 for the unicode buffer overrun
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > In 2.3.6, there wouldn't just be that change, but also a few other > changes that have been collected, some relevant for Windows as well why not just do a "2.3.5+security" source release, and leave the rest to the downstream maintainers? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
