Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #11049: adding some tests to test.support
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 17:41, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Éric Araujo wrote:
> > Le 26/07/2011 15:30, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
> >> Actually, you want %a for non-ASCII messages to be escaped.
> >
> > Thanks for the reminder, I should use more %a instead of %r. In the
> > packaging code however, we can’t, given that we want to backport.
> >
> >> (however, there's hardly any reason to worry about it when it comes to
> >> stdlib module names)
> >
> > I lacked context to see that. If the code in question only ever handles
> > stdlib modules, then okay.
>
> The other reason to use %r is to get the enclosing quotes in the
> displayed message. That reason applies even in cases like this where
> the escaping aspect isn't a concern.
>
And then you make it {!r} so you can use str.format and you complete the
tweak of the string formatting! =) Seriously, though, it wouldn't hurt to
update it to use str.format().
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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #11049: adding some tests to test.support
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Éric Araujo wrote: > Le 26/07/2011 15:30, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : >> Actually, you want %a for non-ASCII messages to be escaped. > > Thanks for the reminder, I should use more %a instead of %r. In the > packaging code however, we can’t, given that we want to backport. > >> (however, there's hardly any reason to worry about it when it comes to >> stdlib module names) > > I lacked context to see that. If the code in question only ever handles > stdlib modules, then okay. The other reason to use %r is to get the enclosing quotes in the displayed message. That reason applies even in cases like this where the escaping aspect isn't a concern. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncogh...@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] ESHUTDOWN
Some more digging indicates that ESHUTDOWN appears in asyncore with the following commit: changeset: 10934:c089020a7a1e branch: legacy-trunk user:Guido van Rossum date:Tue Jun 08 13:20:05 1999 + files: Lib/asynchat.py Lib/asyncore.py description: Sam's latest versions while it appears in errnomodule.c with the following commit: changeset: 3804:48776bf4bd49 branch: legacy-trunk user:Guido van Rossum date:Wed Jul 24 00:51:51 1996 + files: Modules/Setup.in Modules/errnomodule.c description: Added Sam Rushing's errno module It also seems that WSAESHUTDOWN can be returned under Windows by send(), rather than EPIPE: “WSAESHUTDOWN The socket has been shut down; it is not possible to send on a socket after shutdown has been invoked with how set to SD_SEND or SD_BOTH.” Regards Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Comments of the PEP 3151
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:32:56 -0400
Glyph Lefkowitz wrote:
>
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:28:47 +1000
> > Nick Coghlan wrote:
> >> There may be some error codes that we choose to map to these generic
> >> errors, even if we don't give them their own exception types at this
> >> point (e.g. ECONSHUTDOWN could map directly to ConnectionError).
> >
> > Ok, I can find neither ECONSHUTDOWN nor ECONNSHUTDOWN on
> > www.opengroup.org, and it's not mentioned in errnomodule.c. Is it some
> > system-specific error code?
>
> I assume that ESHUTDOWN is the errno in question? (This is also already
> mentioned in the PEP.)
Indeed, I mentioned it in the PEP, as it appears in asyncore.py.
But I can't find it on www.opengroup.org, and no man page on my Linux
system (except the "errno" man page) seems to mention it.
The description from errnomodule.c says "Cannot send after transport
endpoint shutdown", but send() actually returns EPIPE, not ESHUTDOWN,
when the socket has been shutdown:
>>> conn = socket.create_connection(("www.python.org", 80))
>>> conn.shutdown(socket.SHUT_WR)
>>> conn.send(b"xxx")
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
socket.error: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
>From the send() man page:
EPIPE The local end has been shut down on a connection
oriented socket. In this case the process will also receive a
SIGPIPE unless MSG_NOSIGNAL is set.
Regards
Antoine.
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Re: [Python-Dev] Comments of the PEP 3151
On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:28:47 +1000 > Nick Coghlan wrote: >> There may be some error codes that we choose to map to these generic >> errors, even if we don't give them their own exception types at this >> point (e.g. ECONSHUTDOWN could map directly to ConnectionError). > > Ok, I can find neither ECONSHUTDOWN nor ECONNSHUTDOWN on > www.opengroup.org, and it's not mentioned in errnomodule.c. Is it some > system-specific error code? I assume that ESHUTDOWN is the errno in question? (This is also already mentioned in the PEP.) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Comments of the PEP 3151
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:28:47 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: > There may be some error codes that we choose to map to these generic > errors, even if we don't give them their own exception types at this > point (e.g. ECONSHUTDOWN could map directly to ConnectionError). Ok, I can find neither ECONSHUTDOWN nor ECONNSHUTDOWN on www.opengroup.org, and it's not mentioned in errnomodule.c. Is it some system-specific error code? Regards Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.2 -> default): Issue #12102: Merge with 3.2.
Hi, > > But this i tell you - if i would be an italian.. then i.. would.. > > Viva la mamma - per que!!! > > Sob. > > This is **NOT** offensive against just anybody. > (Except maybe that i don't take *myself* too seriously, because > doing so is a bit strange on a planet which disappears in some > billion years, at which time i'll be gone and away. At latest.) > But especially *NOT* against italians. > I *love* Italy! I'm a german!! Well I don't think anyone would take it as offensive. However, obscure jokes without any context don't (IMHO) make your messages very readable either, and I think they would benefit from being concise and to the point ;) Hope that helps. Regards Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] hard linking executables
Ok, apparently the decision to make hard links for executables dates at least back to: changeset: 16221:588691f806f4 branch: legacy-trunk user:Neil Schemenauer date:Wed Jan 24 17:11:43 2001 + files: Makefile.pre.in description: Flat makefile based on toplevel Makefile.in and makefiles in build subdirectories. Those other makefiles will go away eventually. [...] +# Install the interpreter (by creating a hard link to python$(VERSION)) +bininstall:altbininstall + -if test -f $(BINDIR)/$(PYTHON); \ + then rm -f $(BINDIR)/$(PYTHON); \ + else true; \ + fi + (cd $(BINDIR); $(LN) python$(VERSION)$(EXEEXT) python$(EXEEXT)) + Regards Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.2 -> default): Issue #12102: Merge with 3.2.
I was contacted off-list due to anxiety about cleanliness of python-dev in respect to the following lines: > But this i tell you - if i would be an italian.. then i.. would.. > Viva la mamma - per que!!! Sob. This is **NOT** offensive against just anybody. (Except maybe that i don't take *myself* too seriously, because doing so is a bit strange on a planet which disappears in some billion years, at which time i'll be gone and away. At latest.) But especially *NOT* against italians. I *love* Italy! I'm a german!! I'm actually talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czjGpFyS-5w here, though i feel more like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lblz8g5mQRk now. (Aah, Branduardi. He's a good one.) Hm. Maybe "that" Italy is gone now though, i haven't been there for some years ... But that is something completely different. (Dunno - is it still possible to do sightseeing? We here in Germany do have some ancient Rome stuff in good condition, just in case it would be needed? Hey - you know where you can find it ...) Yes, yes, i *love* France, too! My lovely woman and i came together during a short trip to France, 20 years ago. [Maybe we will spend our old days there, if we can afford it (and i'm able to learn the language). But *i* also can imagine some italian island south-of-Rome for that purpose.] But first i was there due to a city partnership, in 1985, football (aeh - this one you play with your feet) tournament. Small town. Played the german national anthem. Played the french national anthem. Sorry, maybe i misunderstood "Marchons, marchons". The french boys grinned anyway. I was a german goalkeeper, then. And my guest-family (little farmer) grilled their major () rooster for me (and a second boy they hosted). I mean - i wouldn't have grilled a lion (heraldic animal) if they came to Hessen in turn! Isn't that a bit strange?? Luckily i already knew the meaning of "Je ne regrette rien". (Aah - Edith Piaf!!) But the farmers wife stated "NO RIEN!! NO RIEN!!!" in turn! Can you imagine that? Such an aggressive rooster!!! Even dead. Even *completely* eaten up! I can tell you. The worst thing was that i couldn't go to toilet for those three days, because - it was *soo* shitty! Sob. Just in case i won't get blacklisted: next time i'm contacted off-list i'll tell the story when our football (with the feet, with your feet!) team went to Poland due to city partnership in the year after tchernobyl. And guess who talked :) to the mayor of the city? Hah!! [Nose blow.] Oh, and before i forget it: my boys (Football - feet!) were mostly Turks, one Moroccan, one Italian (!), Andreas from Poland (fantastic defender on the left side!) and less than 50% germans. And we were a really good *playing* youth team. No, not always the winning team. Horsy horse says Nighty night. --Steffen Ciao, sdaoden(*)(gmail.com) ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) More nuclear fission plants against HTML e-mailXcan serve more coloured and proprietary attachments / \ and sounding animations ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (2.7): Issue #8746: Correct faulty configure checks so that os.chflags() and
In article <4e2ed1a3.3050...@netwok.org>,
Eric Araujo wrote:
> > changeset: 71030:abfe28e7e5cd
> > branch: 2.7
> > user:Ned Deily
>
> > diff --git a/Lib/test/test_posix.py b/Lib/test/test_posix.py
> > --- a/Lib/test/test_posix.py
> > +++ b/Lib/test/test_posix.py
> > @@ -11,10 +11,12 @@
> > import os
> > import pwd
> > import shutil
> > +import stat
> > import sys
> > import unittest
> > import warnings
> >
> > +_DUMMY_SYMLINK = '%s/dummy-symlink' % os.getenv('TMPDIR', '/tmp')
>
> Why not let the tempfile module do this for you?
I didn't feel it was worthwhile modifying the OP's submitted working
patch. But, since you've pointed it out, I've modified the test to use
tempfile and randomize the symlink file name as well.
--
Ned Deily,
n...@acm.org
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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #11784: Improve multiprocessing.Process.join() documentation. Patch by
> There’s a dedicated file to thank doc contributors: Doc/ACKS.rst I didn't know about this file, thanks. In my "defense", there's this comment at the top of Misc/ACKS: """ This list is not complete and not in any useful order, but I would like to thank everybody who contributed in any way, with code, hints, bug reports, ideas, moral support, endorsement, or even complaints Without you, I would've stopped working on Python long ago! --Guido """ What's the rationale for having a dedicated file? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [PEPs] Rebooting PEP 394 (aka Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream)
In article <4e2ee813.1080...@netwok.org>, Éric Araujo wrote: > Le 26/07/2011 18:05, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : > > Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 à 10:56 -0500, Kerrick Staley a écrit : > >> I'm indifferent either way. python3 is a hard link to python3.2, so I > >> thought we'd make everything that way for consistency. > > Is it? Yikes, I didn't know about that. > Yikes for me too. I’ve had a quick look at the Makefile (look for > $(LN)) and found that all scripts use symbolic links, but the python3 to > python3.y link is hard. I wonder why this is. I pointed that out earlier in the thread: "But if you look at the Python 3 "bininstall" target (Makefile.pre.in starting around line 870 or so), you'll see that, for Python 3, symlinks are made for all the versioned files except "python3". I'm not sure that there is a particular reason why a distinction was made; IIRC, the other versioned links were added later in the cycle. The other Python 3 versioned links could probably be changed to hard links as well. In the end, I don't think it makes a lot of difference. But it would be better if Python 2 and Python 3 were consistent here." I don't think it makes all that much difference one way or the other. But it would be better for them all to be one kind or the other. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [PEPs] Rebooting PEP 394 (aka Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream)
Le 26/07/2011 18:05, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : > Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 à 10:56 -0500, Kerrick Staley a écrit : >> I'm indifferent either way. python3 is a hard link to python3.2, so I >> thought we'd make everything that way for consistency. > > Is it? Yikes, I didn't know about that. Yikes for me too. I’ve had a quick look at the Makefile (look for $(LN)) and found that all scripts use symbolic links, but the python3 to python3.y link is hard. I wonder why this is. FTR, downstream packagers may change this. Example on Debian: /usr/bin/python3: symbolic link to `python3.2' /usr/bin/python3.2: symbolic link to `python3.2mu' Cheers ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [PEPs] Rebooting PEP 394 (aka Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream)
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 à 10:56 -0500, Kerrick Staley a écrit : > I'm indifferent either way. python3 is a hard link to python3.2, so I > thought we'd make everything that way for consistency. Is it? Yikes, I didn't know about that. Regards Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.2 -> default): Issue #12102: Merge with 3.2.
> We don’t add NEWS entries for each and every doc fix, otherwise it would > be very huge :) We rather document large changes to the documentation, > like adding links to the source files, using “python3” instead of > “python” in all examples, etc. In addition, Library is the wrong > section, it should be Documentation. > > I’m doing commits this afternoon, so I’ll take the occasion to remove > this entry. > Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep it in mind for next time. Cheers Ross ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [PEPs] Rebooting PEP 394 (aka Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream)
I'm indifferent either way. python3 is a hard link to python3.2, so I thought we'd make everything that way for consistency. Higher-level links (python/idle/pydoc/python-config) have to be soft links so that if, e.g., python points to python3, and python3 is then pointed to another location, python also gets changed. -Kerrick Staley ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.2 -> default): Issue #12102: Merge with 3.2.
Hi, > Murmur... but it hits me little: where is the difference in > between Doc/ACKS.txt and Misc/ACKS? Doc/ACKS.txt is used for doc contributions, Misc/ACKS for other contributions (but sometimes doc too!). Doc/A is also displayed on docs.python.org whereas Misc/A is only readable in tarballs. We talked about merging them a little time ago; I have to check my archives, I don’t remember what issues there were. Regards ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.2 -> default): Issue #12102: Merge with 3.2.
@ Éric Araujo wrote (2011-07-26 15:17+0200): > > [.] > > Doc/library/mmap.rst | 6 ++ > > [.] > > + with mmap. Patch by Steffen Daode Nurpmeso. > > I’m doing commits this afternoon, so I’ll take the occasion to remove > this entry. Murmur... but it hits me little: where is the difference in between Doc/ACKS.txt and Misc/ACKS? I'm mentioned in the latter (on multiple branches), but not at all in the former. Sob. But this i tell you - if i would be an italian.. then i.. would.. SOB!! Viva la mamma - per que!!! --Steffen Ciao, sdaoden(*)(gmail.com) ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) More nuclear fission plants against HTML e-mailXcan serve more coloured and proprietary attachments / \ and sounding animations ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (2.7): Issue #8746: Correct faulty configure checks so that os.chflags() and
Hi,
> changeset: 71030:abfe28e7e5cd
> branch: 2.7
> user:Ned Deily
> diff --git a/Lib/test/test_posix.py b/Lib/test/test_posix.py
> --- a/Lib/test/test_posix.py
> +++ b/Lib/test/test_posix.py
> @@ -11,10 +11,12 @@
> import os
> import pwd
> import shutil
> +import stat
> import sys
> import unittest
> import warnings
>
> +_DUMMY_SYMLINK = '%s/dummy-symlink' % os.getenv('TMPDIR', '/tmp')
Why not let the tempfile module do this for you?
Regards
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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #11049: adding some tests to test.support
Le 26/07/2011 15:30, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : > Actually, you want %a for non-ASCII messages to be escaped. Thanks for the reminder, I should use more %a instead of %r. In the packaging code however, we can’t, given that we want to backport. > (however, there's hardly any reason to worry about it when it comes to > stdlib module names) I lacked context to see that. If the code in question only ever handles stdlib modules, then okay. Cheers ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #11784: Improve multiprocessing.Process.join() documentation. Patch by
> changeset: 71499:8d67fd820627 > parent: 71497:4898b14dcd69 > user:Charles-François Natali > date:Mon Jul 25 18:35:49 2011 +0200 > summary: > Issue #11784: Improve multiprocessing.Process.join() documentation. Patch by > Patrick Sabin. > > files: > Doc/library/multiprocessing.rst | 7 +++ > Misc/ACKS | 1 + There’s a dedicated file to thank doc contributors: Doc/ACKS.rst Regards ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #11049: adding some tests to test.support
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:20:55 +0200
Éric Araujo wrote:
> >
> > diff --git a/Lib/test/support.py b/Lib/test/support.py
> > --- a/Lib/test/support.py
> > +++ b/Lib/test/support.py
> > @@ -170,7 +170,7 @@
> > attribute = getattr(obj, name)
> > except AttributeError:
> > raise unittest.SkipTest("module %s has no attribute %s" % (
> > -obj.__name__, name))
> > +repr(obj), name))
>
> I would use %r instead of %s for both fields here. Non-ASCII characters
> and unseen whitespace are at least two reasons to overuse %r in
> debug/error messages instead of %s.
Actually, you want %a for non-ASCII messages to be escaped.
(however, there's hardly any reason to worry about it when it comes to
stdlib module names)
Regards
Antoine.
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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #11049: adding some tests to test.support
Hi,
> changeset: 71465:be558ad15789
> user:Eli Bendersky
> summary:
> Issue #11049: adding some tests to test.support
> Based on original patch by Giampaolo Rodola with contributions from R. David
> Murray
>
> files:
> Lib/test/support.py | 21 +-
> Lib/test/test_support.py | 178 +++
> 2 files changed, 189 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Lib/test/support.py b/Lib/test/support.py
> --- a/Lib/test/support.py
> +++ b/Lib/test/support.py
> @@ -170,7 +170,7 @@
> attribute = getattr(obj, name)
> except AttributeError:
> raise unittest.SkipTest("module %s has no attribute %s" % (
> -obj.__name__, name))
> +repr(obj), name))
I would use %r instead of %s for both fields here. Non-ASCII characters
and unseen whitespace are at least two reasons to overuse %r in
debug/error messages instead of %s.
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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (merge 3.2 -> default): Issue #12102: Merge with 3.2.
Hi, > changeset: 71497:4898b14dcd69 > user:Ross Lagerwall > summary: > Issue #12102: Merge with 3.2. > > files: > Doc/ACKS.txt | 1 + > Doc/library/mmap.rst | 6 ++ > Misc/NEWS| 3 +++ > diff --git a/Misc/NEWS b/Misc/NEWS > --- a/Misc/NEWS > +++ b/Misc/NEWS > @@ -237,6 +237,9 @@ > Library > --- > > +- Issue #12102: Document that buffered files must be flushed before being > used > + with mmap. Patch by Steffen Daode Nurpmeso. We don’t add NEWS entries for each and every doc fix, otherwise it would be very huge :) We rather document large changes to the documentation, like adding links to the source files, using “python3” instead of “python” in all examples, etc. In addition, Library is the wrong section, it should be Documentation. I’m doing commits this afternoon, so I’ll take the occasion to remove this entry. Cheers ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
