Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Janzert

On 1/2/2014 10:01 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:

On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Dan Stromberg  wrote:

I don't know much (if anything ^_^) about survey methodology.  I just
created a 9 question survey and tossed it at a few places that
Pythonistas hang out.


Specifically, your methodology was to post the link to python-list and
python-dev (and whatever else I didn't see). Apart from "hacker news"
- not sure if that's a specific site or you're talking generically -
your current description sounds right.

ChrisA



I added links to the actual posts to help clarify where and how it was 
posted.


Janzert

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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Dan Stromberg  wrote:
> I don't know much (if anything ^_^) about survey methodology.  I just
> created a 9 question survey and tossed it at a few places that
> Pythonistas hang out.

Specifically, your methodology was to post the link to python-list and
python-dev (and whatever else I didn't see). Apart from "hacker news"
- not sure if that's a specific site or you're talking generically -
your current description sounds right.

ChrisA
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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
I don't know much (if anything ^_^) about survey methodology.  I just
created a 9 question survey and tossed it at a few places that
Pythonistas hang out.

Does this look better?

https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey

Thanks.


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Gregory P. Smith  wrote:
> Somewhere you need to describe the survey methodology, who was surveyed, how
> were they selected, etc.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Dan Stromberg  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Antoine Pitrou 
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:10:36 -0800
>> > Dan Stromberg  wrote:
>> >> Is there a better place to put this than:
>> >> http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/
>> >
>> > Thank you for doing this!
>>
>> My pleasure.
>>
>> > If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for
>> > publishing the results.
>>
>> I put it at https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey , with a
>> link from https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 .  I put it in
>> the "CategoryImplementations" category.
>>
>> The text I added to https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3
>> reads "Some people just don't want to use Python 3.x, which is their
>> prerogative. However, they are in the minority.", where "in the
>> minority" is a link to the survey page.
>>
>> Does anyone want to vet it before I tell more people where to find it?
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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Ben Finney  wrote:
> Antoine Pitrou  writes:
>
>> If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for
>> publishing the results.
>
> Dan, can your reporting tool produce the report in HTML format (and
> plots as SVG images)? That would be IMO more suitable for uploading.

I believe people with a more expensive account than I paid for, have
access to an HTML version.  I don't know if the graphs are jpeg's or
what in that.
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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Gregory P. Smith
Somewhere you need to describe the survey methodology, who was surveyed,
how were they selected, etc.


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Dan Stromberg  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Antoine Pitrou 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:10:36 -0800
> > Dan Stromberg  wrote:
> >> Is there a better place to put this than:
> >> http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/
> >
> > Thank you for doing this!
>
> My pleasure.
>
> > If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for
> > publishing the results.
>
> I put it at https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey , with a
> link from https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 .  I put it in
> the "CategoryImplementations" category.
>
> The text I added to https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3
> reads "Some people just don't want to use Python 3.x, which is their
> prerogative. However, they are in the minority.", where "in the
> minority" is a link to the survey page.
>
> Does anyone want to vet it before I tell more people where to find it?
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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Ben Finney
Antoine Pitrou  writes:

> If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for
> publishing the results.

Dan, can your reporting tool produce the report in HTML format (and
plots as SVG images)? That would be IMO more suitable for uploading.

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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Antoine Pitrou  wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:10:36 -0800
> Dan Stromberg  wrote:
>> Is there a better place to put this than:
>> http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/
>
> Thank you for doing this!

My pleasure.

> If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for
> publishing the results.

I put it at https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey , with a
link from https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 .  I put it in
the "CategoryImplementations" category.

The text I added to https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3
reads "Some people just don't want to use Python 3.x, which is their
prerogative. However, they are in the minority.", where "in the
minority" is a link to the survey page.

Does anyone want to vet it before I tell more people where to find it?
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Re: [Python-Dev] Thanks for python!

2014-01-02 Thread Ben Finney
Daniel Benamy  writes:

> I just wanted to say a quick thanks for python. The language, libs, docs,
> and really the whole ecosystem are so well done, and I really appreciate
> all your amazing work.

Thanks for expressing this! It's good to let the Python developers know
that, behind all the requests and complaints, lies a great current of
mostly silent but appreciative Python users :-)

And, of course, I heartily second the sentiment. A happy new year and
good fortune to all Python core developers in 2014!

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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:10:36 -0800
Dan Stromberg  wrote:
> Is there a better place to put this than:
> http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/

Thank you for doing this!

If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for
publishing the results.

Regards

Antoine.


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[Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
Is there a better place to put this than:
http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/

Thanks.
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[Python-Dev] Thanks for python!

2014-01-02 Thread Daniel Benamy
Hey all,

I just wanted to say a quick thanks for python. The language, libs, docs,
and really the whole ecosystem are so well done, and I really appreciate
all your amazing work.

Best,
Dan
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