Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add myself to developer log and as a Windows expert.

2014-05-11 Thread Raymond Hettinger

On May 11, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Steve Dower  wrote:

> Thanks.
> 
> For those who missed the earlier discussions, Martin v. Löwis has handed over 
> responsibility for the Windows installers. It sounds like Brett Cannon and I 
> are both in a position to build 2.7 right now, and I hope to simplify the 
> setup required for 3.5 so that anyone can produce and test the installers. 
> (Martin is going to look after the 3.4.x builds.)
> 
> Obviously I'm also here to help out with Windows in general. I haven't quite 
> managed to get 50% time from my employer (maybe 10%), but my management at 
> least is very supportive of my participation and keen to keep Python running 
> well.

Welcome to the party. :-)


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[Python-Dev] Patch for robotparser.py

2014-05-11 Thread Raymond Hettinger
If there is anyone here with an interest in web-spiders,
it would be nice if someone else could take a look at

http://bugs.python.org/issue21469

which addresses the risk of false positives with the robots.txt parser.


Raymond


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Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add myself to developer log and as a Windows expert.

2014-05-11 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 11 May 2014 23:59, "Steve Dower"  wrote:
>
> Thanks.

Indeed, welcome!

> For those who missed the earlier discussions, Martin v. Löwis has handed
over responsibility for the Windows installers. It sounds like Brett Cannon
and I are both in a position to build 2.7 right now,

The other BC: Brian Curtin :)

> Obviously I'm also here to help out with Windows in general. I haven't
quite managed to get 50% time from my employer (maybe 10%), but my
management at least is very supportive of my participation and keen to keep
Python running well.

Great to hear!

Cheers,
Nick.

>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
> Top-posted from my Windows Phone
> 
> From: Antoine Pitrou
> Sent: ‎5/‎11/‎2014 4:18
> To: python-dev@python.org
> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add myself to developer log and as a
Windows expert.
>
> On Sun, 11 May 2014 06:04:56 +0200 (CEST)
> steve.dower  wrote:
> > http://hg.python.org/devguide/rev/8d5d1f2c7378
> > changeset:   698:8d5d1f2c7378
> > user:Steve Dower 
> > date:Sat May 10 21:01:39 2014 -0700
> > summary:
> >   Add myself to developer log and as a Windows expert.
>
> Welcome onboard, Steve ! Nice to have an additional Windows expert :-)
>
> Regards
>
> Antoine.
>
>
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Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add myself to developer log and as a Windows expert.

2014-05-11 Thread Ned Deily
In article 
,
 Steve Dower  wrote:
> For those who missed the earlier discussions, Martin v. Lowis has handed over 
> responsibility for the Windows installers.

Welcome to the the release team!

--Ned

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 n...@acm.org

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Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add myself to developer log and as a Windows expert.

2014-05-11 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Steve Dower wrote:

>   Thanks.
>
> For those who missed the earlier discussions, Martin v. Löwis has handed
> over responsibility for the Windows installers. It sounds like Brett Cannon
> and I are both in a position to build 2.7 right now, and I hope to simplify
> the setup required for 3.5 so that anyone can produce and test the
> installers. (Martin is going to look after the 3.4.x builds.)
>
> Obviously I'm also here to help out with Windows in general. I haven't
> quite managed to get 50% time from my employer (maybe 10%), but my
> management at least is very supportive of my participation and keen to keep
> Python running well.
>

Welcome Steve. It's awesome to have this, at least to some extent,
officially endorsed by Microsoft. Python's Windows support is markedly
better than other similar languages (Perl, Ruby), which I think contributes
a lot to its success.

Eli
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Re: [Python-Dev] should tests be thread-safe?

2014-05-11 Thread Akira Li
Victor Stinner  writes:

> If you need a well defined environement, run your test in a subprocess.
> Depending on the random function, your test may be run with more threads.
> On BSD, it changes for example which thread receives a signal. Importing
> the tkinter module creates a "hidden" C thread for the Tk loop.

Does it mean that non-thread-safe tests can't be run using a GUI test
runner that is implemented using tkinter?


--
akira

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Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add myself to developer log and as a Windows expert.

2014-05-11 Thread Steve Dower
Thanks.

For those who missed the earlier discussions, Martin v. Löwis has handed over 
responsibility for the Windows installers. It sounds like Brett Cannon and I 
are both in a position to build 2.7 right now, and I hope to simplify the setup 
required for 3.5 so that anyone can produce and test the installers. (Martin is 
going to look after the 3.4.x builds.)

Obviously I'm also here to help out with Windows in general. I haven't quite 
managed to get 50% time from my employer (maybe 10%), but my management at 
least is very supportive of my participation and keen to keep Python running 
well.

Cheers,
Steve

Top-posted from my Windows Phone

From: Antoine Pitrou
Sent: ‎5/‎11/‎2014 4:18
To: python-dev@python.org
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add myself to developer log and as a 
Windows expert.

On Sun, 11 May 2014 06:04:56 +0200 (CEST)
steve.dower  wrote:
> http://hg.python.org/devguide/rev/8d5d1f2c7378
> changeset:   698:8d5d1f2c7378
> user:Steve Dower 
> date:Sat May 10 21:01:39 2014 -0700
> summary:
>   Add myself to developer log and as a Windows expert.

Welcome onboard, Steve ! Nice to have an additional Windows expert :-)

Regards

Antoine.


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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Remove the redundant and poorly worded warning message.

2014-05-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Nick Coghlan writes:

 > As you point out, most language development teams do very little to
 > try to educate their users about security issues.

That's partly because it isn't going to be terribly effective.
Security is a difficult subject, not one that's going to be usefully
treated in a couple of lines here, a couple more there.  And it is
generally an application issue, not one that is specific to individual
features.

If we're serious about this, I suggest following the RFC pattern:
*every* module's documentation should have a "Security Considerations"
section.  Probably the content will be basically the same as the
existing warning boxes, but with a consistent approach throughout the
docs it could convey the importance of always thinking about security.

 > The consequences of that are clearly visible in the world around
 > us: when security is treated as an optional afterthought,

But (FWIW) that's what warning boxes looks like to me.  An
afterthought.  Not a systematic attempt to encourage security by
teaching about secure programming.  By your own words, we are nowhere
close to a world where "a word, to the wise, is sufficient."

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Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add myself to developer log and as a Windows expert.

2014-05-11 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sun, 11 May 2014 06:04:56 +0200 (CEST)
steve.dower  wrote:
> http://hg.python.org/devguide/rev/8d5d1f2c7378
> changeset:   698:8d5d1f2c7378
> user:Steve Dower 
> date:Sat May 10 21:01:39 2014 -0700
> summary:
>   Add myself to developer log and as a Windows expert.

Welcome onboard, Steve ! Nice to have an additional Windows expert :-)

Regards

Antoine.


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