Re: [Python-Dev] VS 2010 compiler

2015-09-25 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
You can use "Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 4".

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8279


Thanks. Last time I tried that route, it was for 64 bit py2.7. And it
required some kludging of environment variables, and registry acces I don't
have permission for.

But it still may be the best bet. I'll give it a try when I have a chance.

And this should be in the "official" docs...

-CHB



On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <
chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote:

> As I understand it, the MS VS2010 compiler is required (or at least
> best practice) for compiling Python extensions for the python.org
> Windows builds of py 3.4 and ?[1]
>
> However, MS now makes it very hard (impossible?) to download VS2010
> Express ( or Community, or whatever the free as in beer version is
> called).
>
> I realize that this is not python-dev's responsibility, but if there
> is any way to either document where it can be found, or put a bit of
> pressure on MS to make it available, as they have for VS2008 and
> py2.7, that would be great.
>
> Sorry to bug this list, I didn't know where else to reach out to.
>
> -Chris
>
> [1] it's actually prefer hard to find out which compiler version is
> used for which python version. And has been for years. Would a patch
> to the docs, probably here:
>
> https://docs.python.org/3.4/using/windows.html#compiling-python-on-windows
>
> Be considered?
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Re: [Python-Dev] VS 2010 compiler

2015-09-25 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
> This is the main motivation for moving to VS 2015 for Python 3.5.

Yes,I've followed that work to the degree I understand it, and it
looks like a great move. Thanks so much for your (continuing) efforts
with this.

> put a bit of
>>
>> pressure on MS to make it available, as they have for VS2008 and
>> py2.7, that would be great.
>
> I've applied that pressure already and it's not going to happen :(

Darn. Makes no sense, but I work for almost as big a  bureaucracy as
MS, so I know how that goes... :-)

> The best "solution" is to move to Py 3.5 asap.

Really not a solution at all, I'm afraid, and there are still growing
pains with compiling for it as well (see Numpy/SciPy).

But thanks.

-Chris
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Re: [Python-Dev] VS 2010 compiler

2015-09-25 Thread Steve Dower

On 25Sep2015 0824, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote:

As I understand it, the MS VS2010 compiler is required (or at least
best practice) for compiling Python extensions for the python.org
Windows builds of py 3.4 and ?[1]

However, MS now makes it very hard (impossible?) to download VS2010
Express ( or Community, or whatever the free as in beer version is
called).


This is the main motivation for moving to VS 2015 for Python 3.5. See 
https://docs.python.org/3.5/using/windows.html#compiling-python-on-windows 
(same link as [1] with the version changed) and also 
https://docs.python.org/3.5/whatsnew/3.5.html



I realize that this is not python-dev's responsibility, but if there
is any way to either document where it can be found, or put a bit of
pressure on MS to make it available, as they have for VS2008 and
py2.7, that would be great.


I've applied that pressure already and it's not going to happen :(

The best "solution" is to move to Py 3.5 asap. If you're writing an 
extension and are being careful, you can use a later compiler to build 
for 3.4 with Py_LIMITED_API set and a lot of care (did I mention you 
need to be careful? It's not just FILE* that will break...).


Cheers,
Steve


Sorry to bug this list, I didn't know where else to reach out to.

-Chris

[1] it's actually prefer hard to find out which compiler version is
used for which python version. And has been for years. Would a patch
to the docs, probably here:

https://docs.python.org/3.4/using/windows.html#compiling-python-on-windows

Be considered?


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[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2015-09-25 Thread Python tracker

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2015-09-18 - 2015-09-25)
Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/

To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue.
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Issues counts and deltas:
  open5142 (+12)
  closed 31849 (+51)
  total  36991 (+63)

Open issues with patches: 2286 


Issues opened (47)
==

#23329: _ssl cannot be compiled with LibreSSL anymore (on OpenBSD 5.5)
http://bugs.python.org/issue23329  reopened by haypo

#24915: Profile Guided Optimization improvements (better training, llv
http://bugs.python.org/issue24915  reopened by haypo

#25170: 3.5.0 documentation archives missing
http://bugs.python.org/issue25170  opened by Arfrever

#25171: does not build on OpenBSD with no value defined for PY_GETENTR
http://bugs.python.org/issue25171  opened by rpointel

#25172: Unix-only crypt should not be present on Windows.
http://bugs.python.org/issue25172  opened by terry.reedy

#25173: IDLE - several common dialogs don't have correct parent set
http://bugs.python.org/issue25173  opened by markroseman

#25175: Documentation-Tkinter Clarify module spelling change in Python
http://bugs.python.org/issue25175  opened by Rishit Bansal

#25177: OverflowError in statistics.mean when summing large floats
http://bugs.python.org/issue25177  opened by David MacIver

#25178: IDLE: search regex errors should be in/attached to search dial
http://bugs.python.org/issue25178  opened by markroseman

#25179: PEP 498 f-strings need to be documented
http://bugs.python.org/issue25179  opened by eric.smith

#25181: Tests failed in nondecodable directory
http://bugs.python.org/issue25181  opened by serhiy.storchaka

#25182: python -v crashes in nonencodable directory
http://bugs.python.org/issue25182  opened by serhiy.storchaka

#25183: python -m inspect --details fails in nondecodable directory
http://bugs.python.org/issue25183  opened by serhiy.storchaka

#25184: "python -m pydoc -w" fails in nondecodable directory
http://bugs.python.org/issue25184  opened by serhiy.storchaka

#25185: Inconsistency between venv and site
http://bugs.python.org/issue25185  opened by serhiy.storchaka

#25186: Don't duplicate _verbose_message in importlib._bootstrap and _
http://bugs.python.org/issue25186  opened by brett.cannon

#25187: bdist_rpm fails due to wrong hardcoded assumption about RPM fi
http://bugs.python.org/issue25187  opened by dpward

#25188: regrtest.py improvement for Profile Guided Optimization builds
http://bugs.python.org/issue25188  opened by alecsandru.patrascu

#25190: Define StringIO seek offset as code point offset
http://bugs.python.org/issue25190  opened by martin.panter

#25191: test_getsetlocale_issue1813 failed on OpenBSD
http://bugs.python.org/issue25191  opened by rpointel

#25193: itertools.accumulate should have an optional initializer argum
http://bugs.python.org/issue25193  opened by Alun Champion

#25194: Register of Financial Interests for core contributors
http://bugs.python.org/issue25194  opened by ncoghlan

#25195: mock.ANY doesn't match mock.MagicMock() object
http://bugs.python.org/issue25195  opened by felixonmars

#25196: Installer>Install in user folder by default when you check: fo
http://bugs.python.org/issue25196  opened by Abdullah Hilson

#25197: Allow documentation switcher to change url to /3/ and /dev/
http://bugs.python.org/issue25197  opened by mbussonn

#25198: Idle: improve idle.html help viewer.
http://bugs.python.org/issue25198  opened by terry.reedy

#25203: Incorrect handling MemoryError in readline.set_completer_delim
http://bugs.python.org/issue25203  opened by serhiy.storchaka

#25204: Confusing (?) warning when run deprecated module as script
http://bugs.python.org/issue25204  opened by serhiy.storchaka

#25205: setattr accepts invalid identifiers
http://bugs.python.org/issue25205  opened by W deW

#25207: ICC compiler warnings
http://bugs.python.org/issue25207  opened by haypo

#25209: Append space after completed keywords
http://bugs.python.org/issue25209  opened by serhiy.storchaka

#25210: Special-case NoneType() in do_richcompare()
http://bugs.python.org/issue25210  opened by ezio.melotti

#25211: Error message formatting errors in int object unit-test script
http://bugs.python.org/issue25211  opened by s-wakaba

#25216: Warnings stacklevel frames to skip
http://bugs.python.org/issue25216  opened by Jim.Jewett

#25217: Method cache can crash at shutdown in _PyType_Lookup
http://bugs.python.org/issue25217  opened by pitrou

#25218: Automate creation of idlelib/help.html from Doc/.../idle.html
http://bugs.python.org/issue25218  opened by terry.reedy

#25219: Update doc for Idle command line options.
http://bugs.python.org/issue25219  opened by terry.reedy

#25220: Enhance and refactor test.regrtest (convert regrtest.py to a p
http://bugs.python.org/issue25220  opened by haypo

#25221: PyLong_FromLong() potentially returns irregular object when sm
http://bugs.python.org/issue25221  opened by s-wakaba

#25222: 3.5.0 regress

Re: [Python-Dev] VS 2010 compiler

2015-09-25 Thread INADA Naoki
You can use "Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 4".

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8279

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <
chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote:

> As I understand it, the MS VS2010 compiler is required (or at least
> best practice) for compiling Python extensions for the python.org
> Windows builds of py 3.4 and ?[1]
>
> However, MS now makes it very hard (impossible?) to download VS2010
> Express ( or Community, or whatever the free as in beer version is
> called).
>
> I realize that this is not python-dev's responsibility, but if there
> is any way to either document where it can be found, or put a bit of
> pressure on MS to make it available, as they have for VS2008 and
> py2.7, that would be great.
>
> Sorry to bug this list, I didn't know where else to reach out to.
>
> -Chris
>
> [1] it's actually prefer hard to find out which compiler version is
> used for which python version. And has been for years. Would a patch
> to the docs, probably here:
>
> https://docs.python.org/3.4/using/windows.html#compiling-python-on-windows
>
> Be considered?
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[Python-Dev] VS 2010 compiler

2015-09-25 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
As I understand it, the MS VS2010 compiler is required (or at least
best practice) for compiling Python extensions for the python.org
Windows builds of py 3.4 and ?[1]

However, MS now makes it very hard (impossible?) to download VS2010
Express ( or Community, or whatever the free as in beer version is
called).

I realize that this is not python-dev's responsibility, but if there
is any way to either document where it can be found, or put a bit of
pressure on MS to make it available, as they have for VS2008 and
py2.7, that would be great.

Sorry to bug this list, I didn't know where else to reach out to.

-Chris

[1] it's actually prefer hard to find out which compiler version is
used for which python version. And has been for years. Would a patch
to the docs, probably here:

https://docs.python.org/3.4/using/windows.html#compiling-python-on-windows

Be considered?
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