[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 615: Support for IANA Time Zones in the Standard Library

2020-03-29 Thread Paul Ganssle
Hi all,

It seems like discussion on PEP 615 has mostly petered off. The last
remaining unresolved issue didn't get any comments, which was whether
the module should be called "zoneinfo" or put somewhere in the
"datetime" hierarchy, so I've gone ahead and moved that into "rejected
ideas" in this PR .

I have been sort of hoping to get this accepted either between Sunday,
April 5th - specifically between 2 AM and 4AM or 13:00 and 17:30 UTC -
since those times represent ambiguous or imaginary times somewhere on
earth (mostly in Australia/New Zealand/Pacific Islands), so I am
planning on submitting this to the steering council as soon as possible
and hoping that I've given them enough notice to look at it.

If anyone else was planning on commenting, please do head over to the
discourse ASAP.

Thanks!
Paul

On 3/1/20 9:25 AM, Paul Ganssle wrote:
>
> Greetings!
>
> Last year at the Language Summit, I proposed to add additional
> concrete time zones to the standard library
> 
> . After much work and much more procrastination, I now have now put
> together my first proposal: support for the IANA time zone database
>  (also called tz, zoneinfo or the
> Olson database; Wikipedia 
> ). Last week, I submitted it for consideration as PEP 615
> .
>
> I originally posted it on the discourse last week, and advertised the
> discussion on some interest-group-specific fora (tz mailing list,
> datetime-SIG mailing list), but I think it is ready to be advertised
> to a wider forum, so I am posting it here for your consideration.
> Please direct comments to the discourse thread, so that the discussion
> can be as centralized as possible: https://discuss.python.org/t/3468
> .
>
> Links for easy access:
> PEP 615: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0615/
> Reference implementation: https://github.com/pganssle/zoneinfo
> tzdata repo: https://github.com/pganssle/tzdata
>
> Thanks!
> Paul
>


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[Python-Dev] Re: The Python 2 death march

2020-03-29 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I'm talking about the 
"switch to Python 3" banner that we need to add per discussion in 
https://github.com/python/steering-council/issues/3 . I am pretty sure 
it's not too late for that.

-Sumana

On 3/29/20 10:23 AM, Victor Stinner wrote:

IMHO it's too late to touch the Python 2.7 documentation.

Victor

Le dim. 29 mars 2020 à 16:01, Sumana Harihareswara  a écrit 
:


On 3/27/20 12:49 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:

Benjamin: now that PyCon 2020 has been cancelled, are you considering
releasing 2.7.18 slightly earlier?



(I ask because: before you do that, I would like to submit some changes
to the documentation for the 2.7 branch, to indicate to users that they
ought to switch to Python 3.)

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[Python-Dev] Re: The Python 2 death march

2020-03-29 Thread Victor Stinner
IMHO it's too late to touch the Python 2.7 documentation.

Victor

Le dim. 29 mars 2020 à 16:01, Sumana Harihareswara  a écrit 
:
>
> On 3/27/20 12:49 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> > Benjamin: now that PyCon 2020 has been cancelled, are you considering
> > releasing 2.7.18 slightly earlier?
>
>
> (I ask because: before you do that, I would like to submit some changes
> to the documentation for the 2.7 branch, to indicate to users that they
> ought to switch to Python 3.)
>
>
> Sumana Harihareswara
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[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 616 -- String methods to remove prefixes and suffixes

2020-03-29 Thread Victor Stinner
My intent is to help people like me to follow the discussion on the
PEP. There are more than 100 messages, it's hard to follow PEP
updates.

Victor

Le dim. 29 mars 2020 à 14:55, Rob Cliffe via Python-Dev
 a écrit :
>
>
>
> On 28/03/2020 17:02, Victor Stinner wrote:
> > What do you think of adding a Version History section which lists most
> > important changes since your proposed the first version of the PEP? I
> > recall:
> >
> > * Version 3: don't accept tuple
> > * Version 2: Rename cutprefix/cutsuffix to removeprefix/removesuffix,
> > accept tuple
> > * Version 1: initial version
> >
> > For example, for my PEP 587, I wrote detailed changes, but I don't
> > think that you should go into the details ;-)
> > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0587/#version-history
> >
> > Victor
> >
> >
> IMHO that's overkill.  A list of rejected ideas, and why they were
> rejected, seems sufficient.
> Rob Cliffe
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[Python-Dev] Re: The Python 2 death march

2020-03-29 Thread Sumana Harihareswara

On 3/27/20 12:49 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
Benjamin: now that PyCon 2020 has been cancelled, are you considering 
releasing 2.7.18 slightly earlier?



(I ask because: before you do that, I would like to submit some changes 
to the documentation for the 2.7 branch, to indicate to users that they 
ought to switch to Python 3.)



Sumana Harihareswara
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[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 616 -- String methods to remove prefixes and suffixes

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-Dev



On 28/03/2020 17:02, Victor Stinner wrote:

What do you think of adding a Version History section which lists most
important changes since your proposed the first version of the PEP? I
recall:

* Version 3: don't accept tuple
* Version 2: Rename cutprefix/cutsuffix to removeprefix/removesuffix,
accept tuple
* Version 1: initial version

For example, for my PEP 587, I wrote detailed changes, but I don't
think that you should go into the details ;-)
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0587/#version-history

Victor


IMHO that's overkill.  A list of rejected ideas, and why they were 
rejected, seems sufficient.

Rob Cliffe
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