[Python-Dev] Re: Problems with dict subclassing performance
Your inflated sense of your own significance is unfortunate, since it appears to prohibit you from considering the possibility you might have made a rather silly mistake here, and one which is calculated to move you further away from your stated goals. Kind regards, Steve On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 9:31 PM Marco Sulla wrote: > On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 22:30, Marco Sulla > wrote: > > Oh, this is enough. The sense of the phrase was very clear and you all > > have understood it. Remarking grammatical errors is a gross violation > > of the Netiquette. I ask __immediately__ the intervent of a moderator, > > even if I quite sure, since I'm mister No One and you are Terry Reed > > and Steven D'Aprano, that this will be against me X-D > > Ahahhaahh, call me Marco "Cassandra" Sulla. > > Mr. Cannon, I was sure about your response. Please ban me, it will be > a pleasure to be banned by you for specious reasons. It's your > specialty. > > I want to remember here that you banned me from the Py Forum because I > said "Even a child can understand my code", and you _demanded_ my > excuses. Since I found the accusation ridiculous, I've made my excuses > to all children that do not understand my code. You banned me and even > Steven defended me. > > I've been the moderator for a forum for years, and let me say, you are > not a good moderator. You are hard-mannered. See Tim. He calmed me > down with two posts. You all have to learn from him, as coders, > moderators and human beings. > > That said, please ban me permanently, because I'll _never_ give you my > excuses. What I said is the pure truth. > > PS: as a side note, I started to get downvotes from when this useless > polemic started. Since, I repeat, I have more than 13k reputation on > SO, and since the question had about 20 votes without dirty tricks, as > Steven subtly insinuates, all of this makes me laugh. Do your worst, > you all little men. As a Mister No One, I will be **PROUD** to be > banned as Stephan Krah. > > > On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 18:52, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:55 PM Marco Sulla < > marco.sulla.pyt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 23:33, Tim Peters > >> wrote:ople have said now, including me, they had no idea what > >> > you meant.by "I pretend your immediate excuses". It's not a complaint > >> > that it's expressed inelegantly, but that they can't make _any_ sense > >> > of it. By my count, this is at least the second time you've declined > >> > to explain what you meant, but instead implied the person who said > >> > they couldn't understand it was being dishonest. > >> > >> I repeat, even the worst AI will understand from the context what I > >> meant. But let me do a very rude example: > > > > > > Rude examples are never necessary and are not acceptable (don't forget > we have kids who participate on this mailing list). > > > > I have referred the whole thread to the Conduct WG so they can settle > who was out of line. Otherwise I advise everyone to mute this thread. > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/BM4AQR347MPNXRDF3FHBYPOOXPHMYQU2/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/LMWTDGYBRKO5BBL2MNRQB2VEXNQ6G426/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Problems with dict subclassing performance
The silly mistake you all have made is to blame my English error and not the unacceptable behaviour of Steven. The fact I was really angry with Steven was really clear, since all have replied to this. And someone declassed to "sarcasm" the insinuation of Steven. And I've done examples to make it clear it's not possible to not understand the sense of my indignation, and the words of Steven cannot be declassed (or subclassed?) to sarcasm. And I will be banned for this! Great! :D Ah, @Mr. Cannon, I remember the BDFL said in a post "There are too many cocks here". I also censored cock, but you simply reprimanded him. How much CPython code must one write to be treated humanely? Go and ban me permanently please, I'm really sick. PS: Furthermore, I repeat, you all blame Google: https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs&client=ubuntu&q=pretendere+in+inglese On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 at 09:00, Steve Holden wrote: > > Your inflated sense of your own significance is unfortunate, since it appears > to prohibit you from considering the possibility you might have made a rather > silly mistake here, and one which is calculated to move you further away from > your stated goals. > > Kind regards, > Steve > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 9:31 PM Marco Sulla > wrote: >> >> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 22:30, Marco Sulla >> wrote: >> > Oh, this is enough. The sense of the phrase was very clear and you all >> > have understood it. Remarking grammatical errors is a gross violation >> > of the Netiquette. I ask __immediately__ the intervent of a moderator, >> > even if I quite sure, since I'm mister No One and you are Terry Reed >> > and Steven D'Aprano, that this will be against me X-D >> >> Ahahhaahh, call me Marco "Cassandra" Sulla. >> >> Mr. Cannon, I was sure about your response. Please ban me, it will be >> a pleasure to be banned by you for specious reasons. It's your >> specialty. >> >> I want to remember here that you banned me from the Py Forum because I >> said "Even a child can understand my code", and you _demanded_ my >> excuses. Since I found the accusation ridiculous, I've made my excuses >> to all children that do not understand my code. You banned me and even >> Steven defended me. >> >> I've been the moderator for a forum for years, and let me say, you are >> not a good moderator. You are hard-mannered. See Tim. He calmed me >> down with two posts. You all have to learn from him, as coders, >> moderators and human beings. >> >> That said, please ban me permanently, because I'll _never_ give you my >> excuses. What I said is the pure truth. >> >> PS: as a side note, I started to get downvotes from when this useless >> polemic started. Since, I repeat, I have more than 13k reputation on >> SO, and since the question had about 20 votes without dirty tricks, as >> Steven subtly insinuates, all of this makes me laugh. Do your worst, >> you all little men. As a Mister No One, I will be **PROUD** to be >> banned as Stephan Krah. >> >> >> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 18:52, Brett Cannon wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:55 PM Marco Sulla >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 23:33, Tim Peters >> >> wrote:ople have said now, including me, they had no idea what >> >> > you meant.by "I pretend your immediate excuses". It's not a complaint >> >> > that it's expressed inelegantly, but that they can't make _any_ sense >> >> > of it. By my count, this is at least the second time you've declined >> >> > to explain what you meant, but instead implied the person who said >> >> > they couldn't understand it was being dishonest. >> >> >> >> I repeat, even the worst AI will understand from the context what I >> >> meant. But let me do a very rude example: >> > >> > >> > Rude examples are never necessary and are not acceptable (don't forget we >> > have kids who participate on this mailing list). >> > >> > I have referred the whole thread to the Conduct WG so they can settle who >> > was out of line. Otherwise I advise everyone to mute this thread. >> ___ >> Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ >> Message archived at >> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/BM4AQR347MPNXRDF3FHBYPOOXPHMYQU2/ >> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/V3UM3EOZZYLZXIEULBCOOM7RD3LPZOJM/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Deprecate Py_TRASHCAN_SAFE_BEGIN/END in 3.10?
Thanks, I've updated the PR. https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/27693 I added migration instructions to the news file (which Pablo can copy into what's new once it's committed). Also added a Py_DEPRECATED(3.11) typedef which is used in the macro. It remains the decide how to backport the compiler warning to older versions, and to which versions. On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 5:18 PM Victor Stinner wrote: > If the macro is deprecated, please provide an detailed explanation how > to port existing C code to the new C API, in What's New In Python 3.X > (version where the macro is deprecated, Python 3.11 if I understood > correctly). ... ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/PJQMYGD567MPZEBPPVD3RX6ATDCSPJCA/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Problems with dict subclassing performance
Marco, please calm down. Your angry emails are not helping you in any way. Everyone on this list has had the experience of being misunderstood. It is part of being alive. There is much more to be gained by leaving your anger aside and working constructively towards your goal. Please, please calm down. On 8/18/21 4:45 AM, Marco Sulla wrote: > The silly mistake you all have made is to blame my English error and > not the unacceptable behaviour of Steven. > The fact I was really angry with Steven was really clear, since all > have replied to this. And someone declassed to "sarcasm" the > insinuation of Steven. > > And I've done examples to make it clear it's not possible to not > understand the sense of my indignation, and the words of Steven cannot > be declassed (or subclassed?) to sarcasm. > > And I will be banned for this! Great! :D > > Ah, @Mr. Cannon, I remember the BDFL said in a post "There are too > many cocks here". I also censored cock, but you simply reprimanded > him. How much CPython code must one write to be treated humanely? Go > and ban me permanently please, I'm really sick. > > PS: Furthermore, I repeat, you all blame Google: > https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs&client=ubuntu&q=pretendere+in+inglese > > On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 at 09:00, Steve Holden wrote: >> Your inflated sense of your own significance is unfortunate, since it >> appears to prohibit you from considering the possibility you might have made >> a rather silly mistake here, and one which is calculated to move you further >> away from your stated goals. >> >> Kind regards, >> Steve >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 9:31 PM Marco Sulla >> wrote: >>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 22:30, Marco Sulla >>> wrote: Oh, this is enough. The sense of the phrase was very clear and you all have understood it. Remarking grammatical errors is a gross violation of the Netiquette. I ask __immediately__ the intervent of a moderator, even if I quite sure, since I'm mister No One and you are Terry Reed and Steven D'Aprano, that this will be against me X-D >>> Ahahhaahh, call me Marco "Cassandra" Sulla. >>> >>> Mr. Cannon, I was sure about your response. Please ban me, it will be >>> a pleasure to be banned by you for specious reasons. It's your >>> specialty. >>> >>> I want to remember here that you banned me from the Py Forum because I >>> said "Even a child can understand my code", and you _demanded_ my >>> excuses. Since I found the accusation ridiculous, I've made my excuses >>> to all children that do not understand my code. You banned me and even >>> Steven defended me. >>> >>> I've been the moderator for a forum for years, and let me say, you are >>> not a good moderator. You are hard-mannered. See Tim. He calmed me >>> down with two posts. You all have to learn from him, as coders, >>> moderators and human beings. >>> >>> That said, please ban me permanently, because I'll _never_ give you my >>> excuses. What I said is the pure truth. >>> >>> PS: as a side note, I started to get downvotes from when this useless >>> polemic started. Since, I repeat, I have more than 13k reputation on >>> SO, and since the question had about 20 votes without dirty tricks, as >>> Steven subtly insinuates, all of this makes me laugh. Do your worst, >>> you all little men. As a Mister No One, I will be **PROUD** to be >>> banned as Stephan Krah. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 18:52, Brett Cannon wrote: On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:55 PM Marco Sulla wrote: > On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 23:33, Tim Peters > wrote:ople have said now, including me, they had no idea what >> you meant.by "I pretend your immediate excuses". It's not a complaint >> that it's expressed inelegantly, but that they can't make _any_ sense >> of it. By my count, this is at least the second time you've declined >> to explain what you meant, but instead implied the person who said >> they couldn't understand it was being dishonest. > I repeat, even the worst AI will understand from the context what I > meant. But let me do a very rude example: Rude examples are never necessary and are not acceptable (don't forget we have kids who participate on this mailing list). I have referred the whole thread to the Conduct WG so they can settle who was out of line. Otherwise I advise everyone to mute this thread. >>> ___ >>> Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ >>> Message archived at >>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/BM4AQR347MPNXRDF3FHBYPOOXPHMYQU2/ >>> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python
[Python-Dev] Re: Problems with dict subclassing performance
Marco Sulla wrote: > I remember the BDFL said in a post […] Really trying not to get involved, but for anybody still reading: Marco is seriously misquoting somebody here. The actual quote is “too many cooks”. https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/7QNWFKBLJPS5KY3UVFT426TDIHAF6WCX/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/WLTXOABUP3X3HVTGBHYC7ZZHKOMTPWR5/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Problems with dict subclassing performance
This is what I get for checking my email while I have pneumonia ... On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 1:25 PM Marco Sulla wrote: > On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 22:30, Marco Sulla > wrote: > > Oh, this is enough. The sense of the phrase was very clear and you all > > have understood it. Remarking grammatical errors is a gross violation > > of the Netiquette. I ask __immediately__ the intervent of a moderator, > > even if I quite sure, since I'm mister No One and you are Terry Reed > > and Steven D'Aprano, that this will be against me X-D > > Ahahhaahh, call me Marco "Cassandra" Sulla. > > Mr. Cannon, I rarely correct people about this, but it's actually *Dr.* Cannon; if you're going to insult me, please use the proper title at least. > I was sure about your response. Please ban me, it will be > a pleasure to be banned by you for specious reasons. It's your > specialty. > To provide transparency to everyone else, due to this now escalating to a personal attack against me I actually can't participate in any vote on the Conduct WG about how to respond to this thread. So in spite of Marco's request, sarcastic or otherwise, I actually can't participate in giving him the requested ban (if that's what occurs from this; as I said, I no longer have a say in the matter). But I also can't take such a unilateral action of a ban on my own anyway since a permanent ban is not in any one person's power to begin with. As a refresher about how it worked last time there was a permanent ban: the issue was referred to the Conduct WG, they made a recommendation to the SC, and the SC made the final decision based on that recommendation (which, once again, I will have to recuse myself from since I can no longer be trusted to be impartial). -Brett > > I want to remember here that you banned me from the Py Forum because I > said "Even a child can understand my code", and you _demanded_ my > excuses. Since I found the accusation ridiculous, I've made my excuses > to all children that do not understand my code. You banned me and even > Steven defended me. > > I've been the moderator for a forum for years, and let me say, you are > not a good moderator. You are hard-mannered. See Tim. He calmed me > down with two posts. You all have to learn from him, as coders, > moderators and human beings. > > That said, please ban me permanently, because I'll _never_ give you my > excuses. What I said is the pure truth. > > PS: as a side note, I started to get downvotes from when this useless > polemic started. Since, I repeat, I have more than 13k reputation on > SO, and since the question had about 20 votes without dirty tricks, as > Steven subtly insinuates, all of this makes me laugh. Do your worst, > you all little men. As a Mister No One, I will be **PROUD** to be > banned as Stephan Krah. > > > On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 18:52, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:55 PM Marco Sulla < > marco.sulla.pyt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 23:33, Tim Peters > >> wrote:ople have said now, including me, they had no idea what > >> > you meant.by "I pretend your immediate excuses". It's not a complaint > >> > that it's expressed inelegantly, but that they can't make _any_ sense > >> > of it. By my count, this is at least the second time you've declined > >> > to explain what you meant, but instead implied the person who said > >> > they couldn't understand it was being dishonest. > >> > >> I repeat, even the worst AI will understand from the context what I > >> meant. But let me do a very rude example: > > > > > > Rude examples are never necessary and are not acceptable (don't forget > we have kids who participate on this mailing list). > > > > I have referred the whole thread to the Conduct WG so they can settle > who was out of line. Otherwise I advise everyone to mute this thread. > ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/R7MO25Q3UM4J2OMS6ENM4WQ2W26PYLAN/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Problems with dict subclassing performance
On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 at 21:31, Brett Cannon wrote: > I rarely correct people about this, but it's actually Dr. Cannon; if you're > going to insult me, please use the proper title at least. Quoting Pulp Fiction, are you a woman? I think not, so Mr. Cannon is not incorrect. Also my title is Dr. Sulla, but if someone calls me Mister Sulla I do not get angry. Anyway, Mister Cannon, I said no insult to you, only the pure truth. You banned me for a quibble and you continue to ban me for quibbles. And I only wanted to be helpful. Thank you very much. Let the trolls like Steven proliferate, while banning dumb people like me. You remind me the song Le Gorille of George Brassens. A suggestion: beware of gorillas... ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/63NHHVH5LT3545IXVTCHISYCVM3GVRVY/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Dropping out of this list
I bet I am not alone. Instead of going silently, I wanted to call on the adult supervision to do something about the adult. ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/PGAWU4WVTXKYFKPFZT3DUGTBC2CNE622/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:06 PM Luciano Ramalho wrote: > I bet I am not alone. > > Instead of going silently, I wanted to call on the adult supervision > to do something about the adult. > Please. I am mostly a lurker, but I am also considering unsubscribing if someone doesn't step in and stop the mess going on between Brett and Marco. It's becoming annoying to see adults, with doctorates even, who don't know how to behave in public. I've seen five-year-olds that behave better than what I've seen on this list recently. ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/6ZXVIQ4OMOXPSC6L2CP5X4HXQTHNNOSC/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list
On 8/18/21 9:18 PM, Jonathan Goble wrote: > I am mostly a lurker, but I am also considering unsubscribing if someone > doesn't step in and stop the mess +1 ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/NABYROSA6LJG6XAX5QZHLVLTI7KTCQQL/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list
Various variations on: > ... I am also considering unsubscribing if someone doesn't step in and stop > the mess going on between Brett and Marco. ... Overall, "me too!" pile-ons _are_ "the [bulk of the] mess" to most list subscribers. It will die out on its own in time. Dr. Brett should know by now that he'll never get the "last word" with Dr. Marco, And everyone should know by now that Dr. Marco won't let anyone else get the last word either ;-) So stop feeding it. That's the practical thing to do. Like almost everything else in CPython-land, list moderation is a volunteer thing. I've been the most active (by far) list moderator here essentially forever, but I see my only _legitimate_ job as stopping spam. I might step in to block blatantly illegal posts too, but that hasn't yet come up. If you want more active moderation, volunteer for the job. I'd happily give it up, and acknowledge that my laissez-faire moderation approach is out of style. Else suit yourself: unsubscribe if you like, and come back whenever you like. It's all self-serve, and you're welcome here whenever "here" is welcome to you. As a matter of courtesy, though, it's less disruptive to the list membership if you just unsubscribe rather than announce to the 3,585 list members that you're considering unsubscribing ;-) ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/ZK5YV5SPYCGKGE3UX2BTRFAGMGRKIJIS/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list
On 8/18/2021 9:37 PM, Edwin Zimmerman wrote: On 8/18/21 9:18 PM, Jonathan Goble wrote: I am mostly a lurker, but I am also considering unsubscribing if someone doesn't step in and stop the mess +1 Both the email and newsreader parts of Thunderbird have an option called Ignore Thread. Do your readers have such? -- Terry Jan Reedy ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/ZIPFXQ7UPOJYWBPM2ZSOTMS62CG5FY33/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:22 PM Terry Reedy wrote: > On 8/18/2021 9:37 PM, Edwin Zimmerman wrote: > > On 8/18/21 9:18 PM, Jonathan Goble wrote: > >> I am mostly a lurker, but I am also considering unsubscribing if > someone doesn't step in and stop the mess > > > > +1 > > Both the email and newsreader parts of Thunderbird have an option called > Ignore Thread. Do your readers have such? > I consume my email from a variety of disparate devices, including a Debian laptop, a Windows desktop, a Chromebook, an Android phone, and various university-managed computer labs. As such, and as I rely heavily on Gmail's filtering and labeling system to manage my email, I rely solely on Google's standard web interface and Android app for Gmail for the sake of a consistent experience across devices. I don't know if Google offers such an option. It takes me about three seconds to click a thread, see the arguing, and click Archive, but I'm getting tired of doing that repeatedly. ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/PTFMX4YD6QGFJOMWLEKHAEZKXULUQIGG/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Dropping out of this list
In re: Requests for Censorship :-( Luciano Ramalho writes: > Instead of going silently, I wanted to call on the adult supervision > to do something about the adult. I'm sympathetic, because I value your participation in this list. But I'm also sympathetic to the moderators, because usually the kind of behavior being exhibited is a one-off: it's *temporary* loss of control, often only one or two posts. To all: If you are considering leaving the list because of one or two individuals, please consider a *local* "author or recipient" filter, instead of asking for a list-post ban, or a hold for moderation (which is a lot of emotional work for the moderators). If you are considering leaving because of the thread, many MUAs have an "ignore thread" function. If not, filtering on subject, which Gmail can do (I believe that if you select a whole conversation it will either filter the thread or filter the subject -- I always configure by hand because "AI" stands for "Abominable Idiosyncracy"). If you are considering *replying* to such an individual, in the case of a technical contribution, *remove* the CC to the individual address. This not only allows others to recognize an interesting discussion and participate if they choose, but also helps to rehabilitate the bad relationships as we recognize contributions. If you *must* reply to insults, etc (really this only should apply to moderators who may need to show publicly that they're "doing something", but we're all human :-), include the individual address. This policy will make such local filters more effective, and it's something we can all do *together* to reduce the stress of these occasional conflicts. Regards, Steve ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/YLV7UY2C7EFFPOIPCZ3Q6EXYB77JCET2/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] API's to interface python with Eclipse to execute and debug C/C++ Source files.
Hi, We would like to know if there is any option available to execute and debug( setting break point and delete break point) C/C++ Source files Python API's inside Eclipse IDE after interfacing Pydev with Eclipse. Please let us know. Thanks and regards. Chandrakant shrimantrao. L&T Technology Services Ltd www.LTTS.com L&T Technology Services Limited (LTTS) is committed to safeguard your data privacy. For more information to view our commitment towards data privacy under GDPR, please visit the privacy policy on our website www.Ltts.com. This Email may contain confidential or privileged information for the intended recipient (s). If you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disseminate the information, notify the sender and delete it from your system. ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/X24JHGB5MXJFJSXUCE5U2VTYS4U6PJ3A/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:42 PM Jonathan Goble wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:22 PM Terry Reedy wrote: >> >> On 8/18/2021 9:37 PM, Edwin Zimmerman wrote: >> > On 8/18/21 9:18 PM, Jonathan Goble wrote: >> >> I am mostly a lurker, but I am also considering unsubscribing if someone >> >> doesn't step in and stop the mess >> > >> > +1 >> >> Both the email and newsreader parts of Thunderbird have an option called >> Ignore Thread. Do your readers have such? > > > I consume my email from a variety of disparate devices, including a Debian > laptop, a Windows desktop, a Chromebook, an Android phone, and various > university-managed computer labs. As such, and as I rely heavily on Gmail's > filtering and labeling system to manage my email, I rely solely on Google's > standard web interface and Android app for Gmail for the sake of a consistent > experience across devices. I don't know if Google offers such an option. It > takes me about three seconds to click a thread, see the arguing, and click > Archive, but I'm getting tired of doing that repeatedly. > It does. Press M to mute a thread. ChrisA ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/5U7YX2W5D7FIA6TILMD6JQQEUQIVSFJD/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
