Re: [Python-Dev] r87389 - in python/branches/py3k: Doc/library/unittest.rst Lib/unittest/case.py Misc/NEWS

[Simon Brunning]

On 22 December 2010 01:37, Guido van Rossum  wrote:
> Furthermore, Java's jUnit puts expected first (and makes this part of
> the culture/religion), so people coming from there will use that order
> and be freaked out if you were to swap them. And last, the order of
> diff arguments (old new) is also ingrained in the culture (which
> actually matches the expected/actual order in my mind).

For what it's worth, none of the (numerous) Java projects that I've
worked on over the last couple of years have used bare JUnit.
Assertions are often done using the Hamcrest library -
. The actual value comes first,
and this combined with the use of matchers makes the failure messages
very descriptive.

I'd hate to go back to one of those projects where the tests tell you
that two values don't match, but doesn’t tell me which is the expected
value. There is a Python port -
. I must get
around to trying that.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Set the namespace free!

[Simon Brunning]

On 22 July 2010 14:14, Xavier Morel  wrote:
> getattr(elem, 'param') I believe, rather than elem.getattr('param')

Doh! You're absolutely right, of course.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Set the namespace free!

[Simon Brunning]

On 22 July 2010 15:04, Bartosz Tarnowski  wrote:
> What should I do then, when the attribute is a reserver word?

You would use elem.getattr('param'). That's what it's for.

> Let all reserved words be preceded with some symbol, i.e. "!" (exclamation
> mark).

Oh, God, no.

This would be better off on the Python Ideas list. Well, it would be
better of stone dead IMHO, but better ideas than here.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Automatic installer builds (was Re: Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X))

[Simon Brunning]

On 14 April 2010 20:02,   wrote:
> I ran a Mac OSX buildbot for the community buildbots for awhile but never
> did figure out at the time how to get it to fire up on reboot.  That was a
> few years ago.  I think today that would easily be accomplished with an
> @reboot crontab entry.  Dunno if that was available way back then, but it's
> certainly supported on Mac OSX now.

launchd might be a better bet - .

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Re: [Python-Dev] Another version of Python

[Simon Brunning]

2010/2/24 skip :
> Some of you have probably already seen this, but in case you haven't:
>
>    http://www.staringispolite.com/likepython/
>
> :-)

I'm reminded of LOLPython: .

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Re: [Python-Dev] Pronouncement on PEP 389: argparse?

[Simon Brunning]

2009/12/14 Ian Bicking :
> Another thing I just noticed is that argparse using -v for version
> where optparse does not (it only adds --version); most of my scripts
> that use -v to mean --verbose, causing problems.

Oh, me too.

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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] MSI being downloaded 10x morethan all other files?!

[Simon Brunning]

On 12/12/06, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And I just found out (after everyone else probably :-) that YouTube is
> almost entirely written in Python. (And now I can rub shoulders with
> the developers since they're all Googlers now... :-)

That'll put to bed any "Does Python scale" discussions.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

[Simon Brunning]

On 9/29/06, Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> An example of a good way to do it is the original Inside
> Macintosh series. Each chapter started with a narrative-style
> "About this module" kind of section, that introduced the
> relevant concepts and explained how they fitted together,
> without going into low-level details. Then there was a
> "Reference" section that systematically went through and
> gave all the details of the API.

The "How to use this module" sections sound like /F's "The Python
Standard Library", of which I keep the dead tree version on my desk
and the PDF vesion on my hard drive for when I'm coding in the pub. It
or something like it would be a superb addition to the (already very
good IMHO) Python docs.

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Re: [Python-Dev] implementation of copy standard lib

[Simon Brunning]

On 8/14/05, Martijn Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I noticed that this lib is implemented in python, not in C. As I can
> imagine that *a lot* of libs/scripts use the copy library, I think it
> worthwhile to implement this lib in C.
> Unfortunately I cannot do this myself: I am relatively inexperienced
> with python and do not know C.
> 
> What are your opinions?

I'll reply to this over on c.l.py, where it belongs.

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Re: [Python-Dev] How do you get yesterday from a time object

[Simon Brunning]

On 4/19/05, Ralph Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i'm a beginning python programmer.
> 
> I want to get the date for yesterday

This is the wrong place for this question. Nip over to
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list, and I'd be more
than happy answer it there...

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Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.4 won the "Jolt productivity award" last night

[Simon Brunning]

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:07:19 +, Simon Brunning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The 2005 winners are listed here:
> http://www.sdmagazine.com/pressroom/jolt_winners_2005.pdf

Oh, and while I'm breaking cover on python-dev; congratulations to the
lot of you for this. You all richly deserve it.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.4 won the "Jolt productivity award" last night

[Simon Brunning]

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:01:03 +, Gareth McCaughan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.sdmagazine.com/jolts/ ,
> 
> but it's not been updated yet and therefore still has last year's
> winners on it. I haven't found anything with more up-to-date
> results.

The 2005 winners are listed here:
http://www.sdmagazine.com/pressroom/jolt_winners_2005.pdf

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