Re: [Python-Dev] Issue #10278 -- why not just an attribute?

2012-03-23 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Jim J. Jewett  wrote:
> Passing strict as an argument seems like overkill since it will always
> be meaningless on some (most?) platforms.

A keyword argument that gets passed as a constant in the caller is
usually poor API.  Why not have two different functions?

  Neil

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Re: [Python-Dev] Issue #10278 -- why not just an attribute?

2012-03-20 Thread Victor Stinner
2012/3/20 Jim J. Jewett :
>
>
> In http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-March/117762.html
> Georg Brandl posted:
>
>>> +   If available, a monotonic clock is used. By default, if *strict* is 
>>> False,
>>> +   the function falls back to another clock if the monotonic clock failed 
>>> or is
>>> +   not available. If *strict* is True, raise an :exc:`OSError` on error or
>>> +   :exc:`NotImplementedError` if no monotonic clock is available.
>
>> This is not clear to me.  Why wouldn't it raise OSError on error even with
>> strict=False?  Please clarify which exception is raised in which case.
>
> Passing strict as an argument seems like overkill since it will always
> be meaningless on some (most?) platforms.  Why not just use a function
> attribute?  Those few users who do care can check the value of
> time.steady.monotonic before calling time.steady(); exceptions raised
> will always be whatever the clock actually raises.

The clock is chosen at runtime. You might use a different clock at
each call. In most cases, Python should chose a clock at the first
call and reuse it for next calls.

For example, on Linux the following clocks are tested:
 - clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONONOTIC_RAW)
 - clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONONOTIC)
 - gettimeofday()
 - ftime()

Victor
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[Python-Dev] Issue #10278 -- why not just an attribute?

2012-03-19 Thread Jim J. Jewett


In http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-March/117762.html
Georg Brandl posted:

>> +   If available, a monotonic clock is used. By default, if *strict* is 
>> False,
>> +   the function falls back to another clock if the monotonic clock failed 
>> or is
>> +   not available. If *strict* is True, raise an :exc:`OSError` on error or
>> +   :exc:`NotImplementedError` if no monotonic clock is available.

> This is not clear to me.  Why wouldn't it raise OSError on error even with
> strict=False?  Please clarify which exception is raised in which case.

Passing strict as an argument seems like overkill since it will always
be meaningless on some (most?) platforms.  Why not just use a function
attribute?  Those few users who do care can check the value of
time.steady.monotonic before calling time.steady(); exceptions raised
will always be whatever the clock actually raises.

-jJ

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