Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 branch unfrozen

2007-04-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> But I would expect that this proposal will not pass the "buddy system"
> (which is a cute idea IMHO), as locking is counter to the Subversion
> Way.
> 
> Also, you could accomplish what you want (a locked branch) with a
> pre-commit hook that just scans for paths in that branch.

I think "social engineering" is the appropriate way of dealing with
frozen code bases. IMHO, committers do need to consider release
mechanics in each and every commit (anticipating the demands
of release engineering whether or not a release is immanent); it's
not a bad thing if commits get rolled back because the committer
violated some constraints of the release manager. The 2.5.1 release
happened to reveal some misunderstandings as to how subversion is
used in the release process; having these issues cleared up was
well worth the trouble.

Regards,
Martin
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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 branch unfrozen

2007-04-25 Thread dustin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 05:00:42PM -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
> Does the SVN tracker (presuming there is one) take RFEs? 

  http://subversion.tigris.org/project_issues.html

But I would expect that this proposal will not pass the "buddy system"
(which is a cute idea IMHO), as locking is counter to the Subversion
Way.

Also, you could accomplish what you want (a locked branch) with a
pre-commit hook that just scans for paths in that branch.

Dustin
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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 branch unfrozen

2007-04-25 Thread Terry Reedy

"Georg Brandl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Jean-Paul Calderone schrieb:
| > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:28:10 +0200, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
| >>Lars Gustäbel schrieb:
| >>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 04:45:37PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote:
|  Ok, things seem to be OK. So the release25-maint branch is unfrozen.
|  Go crazy. Well, a little bit crazy.
| >>>
| >>> I'm afraid that I went crazy a little too early. Sorry for that.
| >>> Won't happen again.
| >>
| >>BTW, svn provides a "lock" mechanism by which the branch freezing could
| >>be enforced more strictly...
| >
| > It doesn't work on directories, though.
|
| Oh, didn't realize that. Thanks.

Does the SVN tracker (presuming there is one) take RFEs? 



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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 branch unfrozen

2007-04-25 Thread Georg Brandl
Jean-Paul Calderone schrieb:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:28:10 +0200, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Lars Gustäbel schrieb:
>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 04:45:37PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote:
 Ok, things seem to be OK. So the release25-maint branch is unfrozen.
 Go crazy. Well, a little bit crazy.
>>>
>>> I'm afraid that I went crazy a little too early. Sorry for that.
>>> Won't happen again.
>>
>>BTW, svn provides a "lock" mechanism by which the branch freezing could
>>be enforced more strictly...
> 
> It doesn't work on directories, though.

Oh, didn't realize that. Thanks.

Georg

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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 branch unfrozen

2007-04-25 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:28:10 +0200, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Lars Gustäbel schrieb:
>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 04:45:37PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote:
>>> Ok, things seem to be OK. So the release25-maint branch is unfrozen.
>>> Go crazy. Well, a little bit crazy.
>>
>> I'm afraid that I went crazy a little too early. Sorry for that.
>> Won't happen again.
>
>BTW, svn provides a "lock" mechanism by which the branch freezing could
>be enforced more strictly...

It doesn't work on directories, though.

Jean-Paul
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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 branch unfrozen

2007-04-25 Thread Georg Brandl
Lars Gustäbel schrieb:
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 04:45:37PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote:
>> Ok, things seem to be OK. So the release25-maint branch is unfrozen. 
>> Go crazy. Well, a little bit crazy. 
> 
> I'm afraid that I went crazy a little too early. Sorry for that.
> Won't happen again.

BTW, svn provides a "lock" mechanism by which the branch freezing could
be enforced more strictly...

Georg


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Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 branch unfrozen

2007-04-21 Thread Lars Gustäbel
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 04:45:37PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote:
> Ok, things seem to be OK. So the release25-maint branch is unfrozen. 
> Go crazy. Well, a little bit crazy. 

I'm afraid that I went crazy a little too early. Sorry for that.
Won't happen again.

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[Python-Dev] 2.5 branch unfrozen

2007-04-21 Thread Anthony Baxter
Ok, things seem to be OK. So the release25-maint branch is unfrozen. 
Go crazy. Well, a little bit crazy. 

Anthony
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