Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Simon Dahlbacka wrote: > Given that, it does not really seem feasible to include them.. Ok, thanks for the investigation. > Speaking of icons, do the bundled ico files have to be named py.ico and > pyc.ico? No. I think I'll try to drop them altogether, getting the icons from python_icon.exe only. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
On 4/27/06, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Simon Dahlbacka wrote:> OTOH, the ETA for Vista is "just after" 2.5 release (end of 2006 for> OEM:s, beginning of 2007 for customers), long before 2.6>> That said, I don't have any strong preferences either way. (..but I do > have a x64 Vista machine running ATM)Good to know, but unfortunately, not very helpful in the end: Even ifI wanted to include these icons, I still had no clue whatsoever on howto do that. What files do I need to deploy into what locations for this to "work", and how do I determine whether or not to use the "Vistaapproach" (assuming it is different from the "pre-Vista approach")?[Disclaimer: the following is what google told me] it seems that the big icons 256x256 are in fact (or at least can be) PNG format within the .ico file.However, the support for these kinds of icons seems to be somewhat lacking, in particular, the current(including VS2005) resource compilers barf when given such an icon. Given that, it does not really seem feasible to include them..Speaking of icons, do the bundled ico files have to be named py.ico and pyc.ico? (These names does not play along with tab-completion, making the user, me that is, tab twice "unnecessarily" to get to python.exe)/SimonA little bit about me:I've almost completed my Computer Engineering(Embedded systems) degree, just need to get my Master's written down. Professionally I've been developing with python for a few years, but currently I mostly work in C# land.. Lurking around on py-dev for a year or so.. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Simon Dahlbacka wrote: > OTOH, the ETA for Vista is "just after" 2.5 release (end of 2006 for > OEM:s, beginning of 2007 for customers), long before 2.6 > > That said, I don't have any strong preferences either way. (..but I do > have a x64 Vista machine running ATM) Good to know, but unfortunately, not very helpful in the end: Even if I wanted to include these icons, I still had no clue whatsoever on how to do that. What files do I need to deploy into what locations for this to "work", and how do I determine whether or not to use the "Vista approach" (assuming it is different from the "pre-Vista approach")? Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
On Thursday 27 April 2006 11:57, Bill Janssen wrote: > By the way, check out the new Python/Mac iconography that Jacob Rus > has put together (with lots of advice from others :-), at > http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png. Very nice! I just might have to start using some of these modern desktops just to get all the pretty pictures. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
By the way, check out the new Python/Mac iconography that Jacob Rus has put together (with lots of advice from others :-), at http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png. Tim Parkin's new logo sure started something. Bill ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
On 4/27/06, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin v. Löwis wrote:> Fredrik Lundh wrote:>> you do wonderful stuff, and then you post the announcement as a>> followup to a really old message, to make sure that people using a>> threaded reader only stumbles upon this by accident... this should >> be on the python.org frontpage!>> I also wonder what the actions should be for the Windows release.>> Are these "contributed" to Python? With work of art, I'm particular > cautious to include them without a specific permission of the artist,> and licensing terms under which to use them.>> And then, technically: I assume The non-vista versions should be> included the subversion repository, and the vista versions ignored? > Or how else should that work?I would say yes. Vista isn't out there yet, and the icons can always beupdated in 2.6.OTOH, the ETA for Vista is "just after" 2.5 release (end of 2006 for OEM:s, beginning of 2007 for customers), long before 2.6That said, I don't have any strong preferences either way. (..but I do have a x64 Vista machine running ATM)..just my €0.02 ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Fredrik Lundh wrote: >> you do wonderful stuff, and then you post the announcement as a >> followup to a really old message, to make sure that people using a >> threaded reader only stumbles upon this by accident... this should >> be on the python.org frontpage! > > I also wonder what the actions should be for the Windows release. > > Are these "contributed" to Python? With work of art, I'm particular > cautious to include them without a specific permission of the artist, > and licensing terms under which to use them. > > And then, technically: I assume The non-vista versions should be > included the subversion repository, and the vista versions ignored? > Or how else should that work? I would say yes. Vista isn't out there yet, and the icons can always be updated in 2.6. Georg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > you do wonderful stuff, and then you post the announcement as a > followup to a really old message, to make sure that people using a > threaded reader only stumbles upon this by accident... this should > be on the python.org frontpage! I also wonder what the actions should be for the Windows release. Are these "contributed" to Python? With work of art, I'm particular cautious to include them without a specific permission of the artist, and licensing terms under which to use them. And then, technically: I assume The non-vista versions should be included the subversion repository, and the vista versions ignored? Or how else should that work? Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Andrew Clover wrote: > Morning! > > I've done some tweaks to the previously-posted-about icon set, taking > note of some of the comments here and on -list. you do wonderful stuff, and then you post the announcement as a followup to a really old message, to make sure that people using a threaded reader only stumbles upon this by accident... this should be on the python.org frontpage! > included PNG and SVG version of icons. The SVG unfortunately doesn't > preserve all the effects of the original Xara files, partly because > a few effects (feathering, bevels) can't be done in SVG 1.1, and > partly because the current conversion process is bobbins (but we're > working on that!). So the nice gradients and things are gone, but it > should still be of use as a base for anyone wanting to hack on the > icons. hack SVG? what am I waiting for ? > Files and preview here: > >http://doxdesk.com/img/software/py/icons2.zip >http://doxdesk.com/img/software/py/icons2.png brilliant! ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
On Friday 14 April 2006 06:35, Andrew Clover wrote: > Files and preview here: > >http://doxdesk.com/img/software/py/icons2.zip >http://doxdesk.com/img/software/py/icons2.png Very nice! -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Andrew Clover wrote: > Morning! > > I've done some tweaks to the previously-posted-about icon set, taking > note of some of the comments here and on -list. And I still think they're pretty :) >- emphasised borders of 32x32 version of pycon, and changed text > colour, in order to distinguish more from pyc. In balance I think > this is enough of a change, though Nick Coghlan's idea of just using > the plus in this case also has merit - indeed this is what happens > at 16x16 A small problem with including the interactive prompt as part of that icon is that it leaves us without an appropriate icon for pythonw (the Windows .exe to start Python GUI applications without displaying a console window). The plain Plus-Python icon would work in both cases (the normal python executable and the pythonw variant). Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Brisbane, Australia --- http://www.boredomandlaziness.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Morning! I've done some tweaks to the previously-posted-about icon set, taking note of some of the comments here and on -list. In particular, amongst more minor changes: - added egg icon (based on zip) - flipped pycon to work better with shortcut arrow - emphasised borders of 32x32 version of pycon, and changed text colour, in order to distinguish more from pyc. In balance I think this is enough of a change, though Nick Coghlan's idea of just using the plus in this case also has merit - indeed this is what happens at 16x16 - built .ico files without the Windows Vista enormo-icons. If the icons *were* to go in the win32 distribution, it probably wouldn't make sense to spend the considerably larger filesize on Vista icons until such time as people are actually using Vista. - included PNG and SVG version of icons. The SVG unfortunately doesn't preserve all the effects of the original Xara files, partly because a few effects (feathering, bevels) can't be done in SVG 1.1, and partly because the current conversion process is bobbins (but we're working on that!). So the nice gradients and things are gone, but it should still be of use as a base for anyone wanting to hack on the icons. - excised file() in favour of open() ;-) Files and preview here: http://doxdesk.com/img/software/py/icons2.zip http://doxdesk.com/img/software/py/icons2.png Oh, and is the intention to deprecate the purple/green horizontal snake logo previously used for 'Python for Windows' (as well as PSF)? If so, Erik van B's installer graphic could probably do with a quick refresh. cheers, -- And Clover mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.doxdesk.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Also, a while ago a Kevin T. Gadd posted some Python icons he had made. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2004-August/048273.html -- - Ian D. Bollinger ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Georg Brandl wrote: > Nick Coghlan wrote: > > Georg Brandl wrote: > >> some time ago, someone posted in python-list about icons using the Python > >> logo from the new site design [1]. IMO they are looking great and would > >> be a good replacement for the old non-scaling snakes on Windows in 2.5. > > > > Those are *really* pretty. And the self-referential PIL source code and > > disassembly is just plain brilliant. . . [snip] > I've now got back an email from Andrew. About licensing, he says > """Whatever licence is easiest, I'm not too worried about it.""" > > He'll make some tweaks to the images, then I think they'll be ready. > > Now, are there any other opinions? Other than that I love the new icons and I can't wait until Python 2.5 has them? ;-) Steve -- Grammar am for people who can't think for myself. --- Bucky Katt, Get Fuzzy ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Nick Coghlan wrote: > Georg Brandl wrote: >> Hi, >> >> some time ago, someone posted in python-list about icons using the Python >> logo from the new site design [1]. IMO they are looking great and would >> be a good replacement for the old non-scaling snakes on Windows in 2.5. > > Those are *really* pretty. And the self-referential PIL source code and > disassembly is just plain brilliant. . . > > You could even use a similar style for a Python egg icon by placing the > plus-Python logo in front of a file folder picture. > > However, the concerns raised on python-list about the similarities between > the > .exe and .pyc icons are valid, IMO. I also agree with Andrew Clover's own > comment that having the Windows shortcut symbol cover the Python logo on the > .exe is a bad thing. I've now got back an email from Andrew. About licensing, he says """Whatever licence is easiest, I'm not too worried about it.""" He'll make some tweaks to the images, then I think they'll be ready. Now, are there any other opinions? Georg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Georg Brandl wrote: > Hi, > > some time ago, someone posted in python-list about icons using the Python > logo from the new site design [1]. IMO they are looking great and would > be a good replacement for the old non-scaling snakes on Windows in 2.5. Those are *really* pretty. And the self-referential PIL source code and disassembly is just plain brilliant. . . You could even use a similar style for a Python egg icon by placing the plus-Python logo in front of a file folder picture. However, the concerns raised on python-list about the similarities between the .exe and .pyc icons are valid, IMO. I also agree with Andrew Clover's own comment that having the Windows shortcut symbol cover the Python logo on the .exe is a bad thing. One way around that would be to simply use the logo itself as the icon for the executable, and talk to Andrew about using his icons for .py/.pyw and .pyc files. > While we're at it, Python (and IDLE) .desktop files could be added to the > distribution, making it easier for newbies on *ix platforms to start up > a shell or the IDE, together with .png versions of the new icons. A pre- > liminary .desktop file is available at [2], I have already created a > corresponding Makefile rule locally. Kubuntu has a Python shell as one of the options on its Terminal Sessions menu, so this part doesn't really matter to me. However, given that that box is my CPython dev machine, I probably don't qualify as one of the newbies you're targeting with this bit, anyway ;) Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Brisbane, Australia --- http://www.boredomandlaziness.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] New-style icons, .desktop file
Hi, some time ago, someone posted in python-list about icons using the Python logo from the new site design [1]. IMO they are looking great and would be a good replacement for the old non-scaling snakes on Windows in 2.5. While we're at it, Python (and IDLE) .desktop files could be added to the distribution, making it easier for newbies on *ix platforms to start up a shell or the IDE, together with .png versions of the new icons. A pre- liminary .desktop file is available at [2], I have already created a corresponding Makefile rule locally. What do people think? Georg [1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2006-March/332132.html [2] https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=355470&aid=1353344&group_id=5470 ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
