Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3127 (Integer Literal Support and Syntax): %o and %b

2008-03-24 Thread Eric Smith
Guido van Rossum wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Eric Smith
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been double checking the PEP 3127 implementation in py3k and the
  backport I did to 2.6.  The PEP says this about the % operator:

  The string (and unicode in 2.6) % operator will have 'b' format
  specifier added for binary, and the alternate syntax of the 'o' option
  will need to be updated to add '0o' in front, instead of '0'.

  The %b operator was not added to 3.0, so I'll look into doing that in
  both 2.6 and 3.0 (which I opened as issue 2416).

  What should be done for '%#o' formatting in 2.6?  The above sentence
  from the PEP implies it should be modified to add '0o' instead of '0',
  even in 2.6.  But that seems like a bad idea to me.  Maybe it should
  stay as-is, but add a -3 warning?  Unfortunately, there'd be no way to
  change your code to get rid of the warning, short of switching to
  str.format() or adding a __future__ import (shudder).  In 3.0, '%#o'
  already adds the leading '0o'.
 
 I think this is such a tiny detail we shouldn't bother with a -3 warning.
 
 I agree that in 2.6, %#o should continue to do what it does in 2.5.
 Can you update the PEP?

Done in r61845.

Eric.


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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3127 (Integer Literal Support and Syntax): %o and %b

2008-03-21 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Eric Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been double checking the PEP 3127 implementation in py3k and the
  backport I did to 2.6.  The PEP says this about the % operator:

  The string (and unicode in 2.6) % operator will have 'b' format
  specifier added for binary, and the alternate syntax of the 'o' option
  will need to be updated to add '0o' in front, instead of '0'.

  The %b operator was not added to 3.0, so I'll look into doing that in
  both 2.6 and 3.0 (which I opened as issue 2416).

  What should be done for '%#o' formatting in 2.6?  The above sentence
  from the PEP implies it should be modified to add '0o' instead of '0',
  even in 2.6.  But that seems like a bad idea to me.  Maybe it should
  stay as-is, but add a -3 warning?  Unfortunately, there'd be no way to
  change your code to get rid of the warning, short of switching to
  str.format() or adding a __future__ import (shudder).  In 3.0, '%#o'
  already adds the leading '0o'.

I think this is such a tiny detail we shouldn't bother with a -3 warning.

I agree that in 2.6, %#o should continue to do what it does in 2.5.
Can you update the PEP?

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[Python-Dev] PEP 3127 (Integer Literal Support and Syntax): %o and %b

2008-03-18 Thread Eric Smith
I've been double checking the PEP 3127 implementation in py3k and the 
backport I did to 2.6.  The PEP says this about the % operator:

The string (and unicode in 2.6) % operator will have 'b' format 
specifier added for binary, and the alternate syntax of the 'o' option 
will need to be updated to add '0o' in front, instead of '0'.

The %b operator was not added to 3.0, so I'll look into doing that in 
both 2.6 and 3.0 (which I opened as issue 2416).

What should be done for '%#o' formatting in 2.6?  The above sentence 
from the PEP implies it should be modified to add '0o' instead of '0', 
even in 2.6.  But that seems like a bad idea to me.  Maybe it should 
stay as-is, but add a -3 warning?  Unfortunately, there'd be no way to 
change your code to get rid of the warning, short of switching to 
str.format() or adding a __future__ import (shudder).  In 3.0, '%#o' 
already adds the leading '0o'.

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