Re: [Python-Dev] first draft of bug guidelines for www.python.org/dev/
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 08:52:34PM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: > * Summary > A one-line describing the problem so as to make it easy for > developers to spot whether they have the expertise needed to work on > the bug. Summary is also displayed as a title on index and search pages, so it is important to make the summary right - short and descriptive. Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmannhttp://phd.pp.ru/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] first draft of bug guidelines for www.python.org/dev/
Kevin Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It may just be bad karma, but SourceForge tends to lock or go off into > lala land whenever I log in. Thus, I would file many bug reports, with > a reply-to address, if non-login bug submissions where allowed. My long > term hope is that you toss out SF and get something better. You're not the only one with that hope. With at least Trac, Jira and Roundup to choose from, the PSF's current tracker shootout should find us that replacement :) Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Brisbane, Australia --- http://www.boredomandlaziness.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] first draft of bug guidelines for www.python.org/dev/
On 7/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brett> Sure. It can also wait until we begin discussing the transitionBrett> to our next bug tracker.Would be kinda nice if the new bug tracker allowed submitters to enter afollowup email address without formally logging in. (Of course, email-based submissions would go a long way to minimizing the problem.)It may just be bad karma, but SourceForge tends to lock or go off into lala land whenever I log in. Thus, I would file many bug reports, with a reply-to address, if non-login bug submissions where allowed. My long term hope is that you toss out SF and get something better. Thanks,-Kevin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] first draft of bug guidelines for www.python.org/dev/
Brett> Sure. It can also wait until we begin discussing the transition Brett> to our next bug tracker. Would be kinda nice if the new bug tracker allowed submitters to enter a followup email address without formally logging in. (Of course, email-based submissions would go a long way to minimizing the problem.) Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] first draft of bug guidelines for www.python.org/dev/
On 7/20/06, Fred L. Drake, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 21 July 2006 00:10, Neil Hodgson wrote: > Brett Cannon: > > But SourceForge does not support anonymous reporting. > >SourceForge does support anonymous reporting. A large proportion of > the fault reports I receive for Scintilla are anonymous as indicated > by "nobody" in the "Submitted By" column.SourceForge supports anonymous reporting, but the Python project determined that the management cost of anonymous reports was higher than the value theyprovided.OK. Wording has been changed in my copy. It might be time to reconsider that decision (though my position hasn'tchanged).Sure. It can also wait until we begin discussing the transition to our next bug tracker.-Brett ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] first draft of bug guidelines for www.python.org/dev/
On Friday 21 July 2006 00:10, Neil Hodgson wrote: > Brett Cannon: > > But SourceForge does not support anonymous reporting. > >SourceForge does support anonymous reporting. A large proportion of > the fault reports I receive for Scintilla are anonymous as indicated > by "nobody" in the "Submitted By" column. SourceForge supports anonymous reporting, but the Python project determined that the management cost of anonymous reports was higher than the value they provided. It might be time to reconsider that decision (though my position hasn't changed). -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] first draft of bug guidelines for www.python.org/dev/
Brett Cannon: > But SourceForge does not support anonymous reporting. SourceForge does support anonymous reporting. A large proportion of the fault reports I receive for Scintilla are anonymous as indicated by "nobody" in the "Submitted By" column. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=2439&atid=102439 Neil ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] first draft of bug guidelines for www.python.org/dev/
Here is a first stab at writing up guidelines for people to follow when reporting bug. If this goes well I will also do ones for patches, committing, and PEPs. -Brett --- These sets of guidelines are to help you file a bug report for the Python programming language on SourceForge_. If your bug is not for the language but for a third-party application, please report the bug to that third-party. *Please make sure to follow every step as it will make the lives of the Python developers much easier!!!* .. contents:: Get a SourceForge account === In order to file a bug report, you must have an account_ on SourceForge_. We realize some people would like to have anonymous bug reporting for various reasons (anonymity, ease or reporting, etc.). But SourceForge does not support anonymous reporting. Plus, by registering, you are notified by email when any action is been taken on your report. This can be very important if a Python developer needs more information from you about the bug. Start a new bug === You must be logged into SourceForge to file a bug! See `Get a SourceForge account`_ if you do not have one. Go to the `SourceForge bug page`_ to start a new bug report. There you will find a link called `Submit New`_. Click on it and it will allow you to fill out a new bug report. Once you click on the link, you are presented with a page that has several fields for you to fill in. Here is what to do for each field: * Category Set this to the area that the bug is related to (e.g., documentation, build, etc.). * Group Usually this is set the major.minor version of Python that you found the bug in. * Assigned To Leave this alone * Priority Leave this alone * Summary A one-line describing the problem so as to make it easy for developers to spot whether they have the expertise needed to work on the bug. * Detailed Description Following sections of this document discuss what should go in here. * Check to Upload and Attach a File If you are going to upload a file, you *must* check this box. * Click the Browse button to upload any file to accompany your bug report (usually a succinct way to reproduce the bug). * File Description A one-line describing the file; no date info is needed since the upload is timestamped. Specify Python version === It is important that we have the most accurate version number of the interpreter you are using in order to best diagnose the issue. There are two ways to get us the version information. If you can run your Python interpreter, execute the following lines at an interpreter and paste the result into the ``Detailed Description`` field of the bug report:: >>> import sys >>> print sys.version If you are running a version of Python newer than 2.4 and are working from a source checkout of Python, the please also report the Subversion revision number for the root of your checkout:: python/trunk$ svnversion . If your bug is preventing you from running the interpreter, execute Python with teh ``-V`` command-line flag and paste the output:: python/trunk$ python -V Special settings for your Python interpreter Sometimes your environment influences a bug and thus needs to be reported to help find the problem. This means we need to have reported: * Operating System * Environment Variables + PYTHONSTARTUP If this is set and might be causing the issue, please either upload the file or state what it does. + PYTHONCASEOK If your bug is on Windows and involves importing, please report if this environment variable is set or not. * site-packages If you have andy third-party packages installed that may be contributing to the bug, please report those. * Custom Patches Any differences between your code and the code the Python developers work off of needs to be reported. Sample code to reproduce bug If you can, please upload a file the demonstrates the bug. The more succinct the better! And please do not forget to check the upload checkbox in the bug report. Submit! At this point you should have a detailed bug report for developers to work off of. Click the ``Submit`` button and read on to see what you should do after the bug is reported. Respond to requests from developers No matter how detailed the bug report, there is always the off-chance that a developer will need more information to fix a bug. Please be prompt in replying to requests for information by submitting a reply on the bug report. You may be asked to test out a patch. It is very important that you help with this, especially if the bug is not reproducible by the developer working on it. Write a patch!
