Re: [Python-Dev] python.org going down?

2010-10-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 08.10.2010 09:21, schrieb Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven:
> -On [20101008 01:22], "Martin v. Löwis" (mar...@v.loewis.de) wrote:
>> True. However, I really cannot see anything on the machines that
>> indicates some outage. I'm still unsure what "it" is that was happening,
>> so it's also difficult to analyse this further.
> 
> It's hosted by XS4All, they had some network problems yesterday at least. I
> am not sure if it would explain this behaviour, might be one of the uplinks
> or peers had some issues.

Ah. That would explain it, indeed.

Regards,
Martin
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Re: [Python-Dev] python.org going down?

2010-10-08 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20101008 01:22], "Martin v. Löwis" (mar...@v.loewis.de) wrote:
>True. However, I really cannot see anything on the machines that
>indicates some outage. I'm still unsure what "it" is that was happening,
>so it's also difficult to analyse this further.

It's hosted by XS4All, they had some network problems yesterday at least. I
am not sure if it would explain this behaviour, might be one of the uplinks
or peers had some issues.

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Re: [Python-Dev] python.org going down?

2010-10-07 Thread Tres Seaver
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On 10/07/2010 07:42 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
>> FWIW, PyPI was inaccessible for some longish period of time this morning.
> 
> That I can confirm (assuming you are talking about the UTC night).
> However, it stopped around 5:00 UTC, so it's clearly unrelated to
> anything that happened reportedly 2 hours ago.

If you have evidence in the logs for one and not the other, then they
are likely unrelated.  I was speculating about possible issues with,
say, the network fabric at the ISP, or something, which could cause
apparent outages from the outside viewer's perspective, without
necessarily leaving any trace on the machines hosting the sites, except
a drop in traffic in the logs.


Tres
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Re: [Python-Dev] python.org going down?

2010-10-07 Thread geremy condra
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:17 PM, "Martin v. Löwis"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Nothing on python.org suggests that this has actually happened. Could
>>> it be that the issue is on your end?
>>
>> It's possible, but I was first notified that it was happening by
>> someone literally 3000 miles away. It seems unlikely that we would
>> both have had the same problem at the same time under those
>> conditions, doesn't it?
>
> True. However, I really cannot see anything on the machines that
> indicates some outage. I'm still unsure what "it" is that was happening,
> so it's also difficult to analyse this further.

 chalk it up to a mystery of the internet, I guess. It still
seems strange to me that two people would get the same behavior so far
away from each other and not have it be on that end though.

Geremy Condra
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Re: [Python-Dev] python.org going down?

2010-10-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> FWIW, PyPI was inaccessible for some longish period of time this morning.

That I can confirm (assuming you are talking about the UTC night).
However, it stopped around 5:00 UTC, so it's clearly unrelated to
anything that happened reportedly 2 hours ago.

Regards,
Martin
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Re: [Python-Dev] python.org going down?

2010-10-07 Thread Tres Seaver
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On 10/07/2010 07:17 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
>>>
>>> Nothing on python.org suggests that this has actually happened. Could
>>> it be that the issue is on your end?
>>
>> It's possible, but I was first notified that it was happening by
>> someone literally 3000 miles away. It seems unlikely that we would
>> both have had the same problem at the same time under those
>> conditions, doesn't it?
> 
> True. However, I really cannot see anything on the machines that
> indicates some outage. I'm still unsure what "it" is that was happening,
> so it's also difficult to analyse this further.

FWIW, PyPI was inaccessible for some longish period of time this morning.



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Re: [Python-Dev] python.org going down?

2010-10-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>>
>> Nothing on python.org suggests that this has actually happened. Could
>> it be that the issue is on your end?
> 
> It's possible, but I was first notified that it was happening by
> someone literally 3000 miles away. It seems unlikely that we would
> both have had the same problem at the same time under those
> conditions, doesn't it?

True. However, I really cannot see anything on the machines that
indicates some outage. I'm still unsure what "it" is that was happening,
so it's also difficult to analyse this further.

Regards,
Martin
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Re: [Python-Dev] python.org going down?

2010-10-07 Thread geremy condra
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:52 PM, "Martin v. Löwis"  wrote:
> Am 08.10.2010 00:00, schrieb geremy condra:
>> Seems like python.org has gone down and come back up a couple of times
>> in the last few minutes, is this intentional?
>
> Nothing on python.org suggests that this has actually happened. Could
> it be that the issue is on your end?

It's possible, but I was first notified that it was happening by
someone literally 3000 miles away. It seems unlikely that we would
both have had the same problem at the same time under those
conditions, doesn't it?

Geremy Condra
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Re: [Python-Dev] python.org going down?

2010-10-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 08.10.2010 00:00, schrieb geremy condra:
> Seems like python.org has gone down and come back up a couple of times
> in the last few minutes, is this intentional?

Nothing on python.org suggests that this has actually happened. Could
it be that the issue is on your end?

Regards,
Martin
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[Python-Dev] python.org going down?

2010-10-07 Thread geremy condra
Seems like python.org has gone down and come back up a couple of times
in the last few minutes, is this intentional?

Geremy Condra
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