Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: > > but you can install this backport from PyPI: > > https://pypi.python.org/pypi/cdecimal/2.3 > > This is what I was looking for. Note that for numerical work _decimal from Python3.3 is vastly faster than cdecimal. I've added two major speedups (credit for one of them goes to Antoine), so these are the numbers for the pi benchmark: Python3.3 (_decimal):time: 0.15s Python3.3 (decimal.py): time: 17.22s = Python2.7 (cdecimal):time: 0.29s Python2.7 (decimal.py): time: 17.74s = For database work and such the numbers should be about the same. Stefan Krah ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
> No. 2.7 does not accept new features anymore, It is clear now. > but you can install this backport from PyPI: > https://pypi.python.org/pypi/cdecimal/2.3 This is what I was looking for. Thanks. Andriy > Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:54:37 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1 > From: amaur...@gmail.com > To: andrew.svet...@gmail.com > CC: andriy.kornats...@live.com; python-dev@python.org > > 2013/3/27 Andrew Svetlov > mailto:andrew.svet...@gmail.com>> > No. _decimal is new functionality that will never be backported. > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Andriy Kornatskyy > mailto:andriy.kornats...@live.com>> wrote: > > Any plans backport decimal C implementation from 3.3? > > No. 2.7 does not accept new features anymore, but you can install > this backport from PyPI: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/cdecimal/2.3 > > -- > Amaury Forgeot d'Arc ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
2013/3/27 Andrew Svetlov > No. _decimal is new functionality that will never be backported. > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Andriy Kornatskyy > wrote: > > Any plans backport decimal C implementation from 3.3? > No. 2.7 does not accept new features anymore, but you can install this backport from PyPI: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/cdecimal/2.3 -- Amaury Forgeot d'Arc ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
Andrew, Thank you for the prompt response back. > will never be backported. Who knows? Is python 3.3 _decimal interface 100% compatible with one pure python implementation in 2.7? I suppose code written using decimals in python 2.7 should work in python 3 with no changes, or there should be taken caution for something? According to presentation slides, 30x performance boost is something definitely valuable for 2.7 crowd. Thanks. Andriy > Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:24:47 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1 > From: andrew.svet...@gmail.com > To: andriy.kornats...@live.com > CC: python-dev@python.org > > No. _decimal is new functionality that will never be backported. > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Andriy Kornatskyy > wrote: > > Any plans backport decimal C implementation from 3.3? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Andriy Kornatskyy > > > > > > > >> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:18:34 -0700 > >> From: ether@gmail.com > >> To: h...@ox.cx > >> CC: python-dev@python.org > >> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1 > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Hynek Schlawack wrote: > >> > Speakerdeck is slides only. The video is here: > >> > http://pyvideo.org/video/1730/python-33-trust-me-its-better-than-27 > >> > >> Sweet thanks! > >> ___ > >> Python-Dev mailing list > >> Python-Dev@python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > >> Unsubscribe: > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/andriy.kornatskyy%40live.com > > ___ > > Python-Dev mailing list > > Python-Dev@python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > > Unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/andrew.svetlov%40gmail.com > > > > -- > Thanks, > Andrew Svetlov ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
No. _decimal is new functionality that will never be backported. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: > Any plans backport decimal C implementation from 3.3? > > Thanks. > > Andriy Kornatskyy > > > >> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:18:34 -0700 >> From: ether@gmail.com >> To: h...@ox.cx >> CC: python-dev@python.org >> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1 >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Hynek Schlawack wrote: >> > Speakerdeck is slides only. The video is here: >> > http://pyvideo.org/video/1730/python-33-trust-me-its-better-than-27 >> >> Sweet thanks! >> ___ >> Python-Dev mailing list >> Python-Dev@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev >> Unsubscribe: >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/andriy.kornatskyy%40live.com > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/andrew.svetlov%40gmail.com -- Thanks, Andrew Svetlov ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
Any plans backport decimal C implementation from 3.3? Thanks. Andriy Kornatskyy > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:18:34 -0700 > From: ether@gmail.com > To: h...@ox.cx > CC: python-dev@python.org > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1 > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Hynek Schlawack wrote: > > Speakerdeck is slides only. The video is here: > > http://pyvideo.org/video/1730/python-33-trust-me-its-better-than-27 > > Sweet thanks! > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/andriy.kornatskyy%40live.com > ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Hynek Schlawack wrote: > Speakerdeck is slides only. The video is here: > http://pyvideo.org/video/1730/python-33-trust-me-its-better-than-27 Sweet thanks! ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
Am 26.03.2013 um 23:05 schrieb Sean Felipe Wolfe : >> Anyway, you should trust Brett Canon: "Python 3.3: Trust Me, It's >> Better Than Python 2.7". >> >> https://speakerdeck.com/pyconslides/python-3-dot-3-trust-me-its-better-than-python-2-dot-7-by-dr-brett-cannon > Was there supposed to be audio with this, or is it slides only? I got > no audio :P Speakerdeck is slides only. The video is here: http://pyvideo.org/video/1730/python-33-trust-me-its-better-than-27 ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Anyway, you should trust Brett Canon: "Python 3.3: Trust Me, It's > Better Than Python 2.7". > > https://speakerdeck.com/pyconslides/python-3-dot-3-trust-me-its-better-than-python-2-dot-7-by-dr-brett-cannon Was there supposed to be audio with this, or is it slides only? I got no audio :P ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
Am 26.03.2013 13:13, schrieb Benjamin Peterson: > 2013/3/26 Matthias Klose : >> Am 25.03.2013 01:30, schrieb Benjamin Peterson: >>> 2.7.4 will be the latest maintenance release in the Python 2.7 series. >> >> I hope it's not (and in the IDLE thread you say so otherwise too). > > "latest" is different from "last" :) As opposed to 3.2.4, which will really be the last (the last regular one, that is -- if/when the XML stuff gets released there will be a source-only release). Georg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:54:11 +0100 a.cava...@cavallinux.eu wrote: > It's already hard to sell 2.7 in most companies. Sure, it's often hard to sell free software! Regards Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
Le Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:34:34 +0100, Victor Stinner a écrit : > 2013/3/26 Lennart Regebro : > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Matthias Klose > > wrote: > >> Am 25.03.2013 01:30, schrieb Benjamin Peterson: > >>> 2.7.4 will be the latest maintenance release in the Python 2.7 > >>> series. > >> > >> I hope it's not (and in the IDLE thread you say so otherwise too). > > > > It most certainly will be the latest once it's released. But > > hopefully not the last. :-) > > I also read "the last" by mistake! > > Anyway, you should trust Brett Canon: "Python 3.3: Trust Me, It's > Better Than Python 2.7". > > https://speakerdeck.com/pyconslides/python-3-dot-3-trust-me-its-better-than-python-2-dot-7-by-dr-brett-cannon You can always trust Brett Cannon! cheers Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
2013/3/26 Matthias Klose : > Am 25.03.2013 01:30, schrieb Benjamin Peterson: >> 2.7.4 will be the latest maintenance release in the Python 2.7 series. > > I hope it's not (and in the IDLE thread you say so otherwise too). "latest" is different from "last" :) -- Regards, Benjamin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
It's already hard to sell 2.7 in most companies. Regards, Antonio Anyway, you should trust Brett Canon: "Python 3.3: Trust Me, It's Better Than Python 2.7". https://speakerdeck.com/pyconslides/python-3-dot-3-trust-me-its-better-than-python-2-dot-7-by-dr-brett-cannon Victor ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
2013/3/26 Lennart Regebro : > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: >> Am 25.03.2013 01:30, schrieb Benjamin Peterson: >>> 2.7.4 will be the latest maintenance release in the Python 2.7 series. >> >> I hope it's not (and in the IDLE thread you say so otherwise too). > > It most certainly will be the latest once it's released. But hopefully > not the last. :-) I also read "the last" by mistake! Anyway, you should trust Brett Canon: "Python 3.3: Trust Me, It's Better Than Python 2.7". https://speakerdeck.com/pyconslides/python-3-dot-3-trust-me-its-better-than-python-2-dot-7-by-dr-brett-cannon Victor ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: > Am 25.03.2013 01:30, schrieb Benjamin Peterson: >> 2.7.4 will be the latest maintenance release in the Python 2.7 series. > > I hope it's not (and in the IDLE thread you say so otherwise too). It most certainly will be the latest once it's released. But hopefully not the last. :-) //Lennart ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 2.7.4 release candidate 1
Am 25.03.2013 01:30, schrieb Benjamin Peterson: > 2.7.4 will be the latest maintenance release in the Python 2.7 series. I hope it's not (and in the IDLE thread you say so otherwise too). Matthias ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
