[Python-Dev] hi everyone
I am new one to this mailing list I would like to learn python.. how to join IRC for python,i try it like #python, but i dn't get can you tell me -- Regards, S.Malathi. ___ Python-Dev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] hi everyone
-On [20090809 09:50], malathi selvaraj ([email protected]) wrote: >I am new one to this mailing list Welcome. >I would like to learn python.. There is sufficient information on the website of www.python.org Furthermore, this is not the mailinglist you want to email with questions, you need to mail the normal Python mailinglist for this. This is the mailinglist related to the actual development of the Python language itself. >how to join IRC for python,i try it like #python, but i dn't get can you Python has various channels on Undernet and Freenode at least. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B The wisdom of the wise, and the experience of ages, may be preserved by quotations... ___ Python-Dev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] hi everyone
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > -On [20090809 09:50], malathi selvaraj ([email protected]) wrote: >> I am new one to this mailing list > > Welcome. > >> I would like to learn python.. > > There is sufficient information on the website of www.python.org > > Furthermore, this is not the mailinglist you want to email with questions, > you need to mail the normal Python mailinglist for this. Specifically, [email protected] (also available as the newsgroup comp.lang.python). Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | [email protected] | Brisbane, Australia --- ___ Python-Dev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] hi everyone
Nick> Specifically, [email protected] (also available as the Nick> newsgroup comp.lang.python). Also, if you're a complete beginner, try subscribing to [email protected]: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor and reading through that list's ten year's worth of archived postings. (Maybe someone create a BestOfTutor wiki page?) -- Skip Montanaro - [email protected] - http://www.smontanaro.net/ Getting old sucks, but it beats dying young ___ Python-Dev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] hi everyone
There's also the diveintopython.org website that contains a free ebook about python.. That's what I used to get started :) -Original Message- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 6:27 AM To: Nick Coghlan Cc: malathi selvaraj; Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] hi everyone Nick> Specifically, [email protected] (also available as the Nick> newsgroup comp.lang.python). Also, if you're a complete beginner, try subscribing to [email protected]: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor and reading through that list's ten year's worth of archived postings. (Maybe someone create a BestOfTutor wiki page?) -- Skip Montanaro - [email protected] - http://www.smontanaro.net/ Getting old sucks, but it beats dying young ___ Python-Dev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/billy.earney%40gmail.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] statement vs expression [was: (try-except) conditional expression similar to (if-else) conditional (PEP 308)]
> Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: >> I've never understood the need to have a distinction betwen statements >> and expressions, not when expressions can have side effects. Alex Martelli responded: > If you're interested in understanding it better, research > Query-Command Separation (QCS), e.g. starting at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-query_separation Either you missed Kristján's point, or your answer was so subtle that I missed yours. QCS makes it easy to determine which pieces of code (queries) are free of side-effects. I see value in that for both debugging and optimization. What I don't see is how that relates to expressions vs statements **when expressions can have side effects.** (Actually, in Python, I would say that statements are far *more* likely to be free of side-effects, as they are often there for flow control.) -jJ ___ Python-Dev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] codecs.oen [was: PEP 385: the eol-type issue]
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> ... and because of this, the feature is already available if >> you use codecs.open() instead of the built-in open(): Neil Hodgson asked: > So should I not add an issue for the basic open because codecs.open > should be used for this case? In python 3, why does codecs.open even still exist? As best I can tell, codecs.open should be the same as regular open, but for a unicode file -- and all text files are treated as unicode in python 3.0 So at this point, are there any differences beyond: (a) The builtin open doesn't work on multi-byte line-endings other than the multi-character CRLF. (In other words, it goes by the traditional Operating System conventions developed when a char was a byte, but the Unicode standard allows for a few more possibilities, which are currently rare in practice.) (b) The codecs version is much slower, because it hasn't seen the optimization effort. -jJ ___ Python-Dev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
